Everything wrong with the 2000's

[escapegoat]

Kind of how we got Hair Metal package tours in the 00s (Poison/Motley Crue, etc.) We're gonna get a new wave of mall punk/goth package tours in the 2020s. Avril Lavigne/Simple Plan? MCR/AFI? I'm cringing at all the combinations in my head.

Worse: I bet Train and Lifehouse are planning their County Fair Tour even as we speak.



Worse still: people acting like Coldplay is the second coming of U2. Think like, All That You Can't Leave Behind era Bono. Only on like... Chris Martin or Adam Levigne. Or fucking Thom Yorke, maybe. Ugh. *shudders* The future is grim.

 

[Gordon Cole]

Worse: I bet Train and Lifehouse are planning their County Fair Tour even as we speak.



Worse still: people acting like Coldplay is the second coming of U2. Think like, All That You Can't Leave Behind era Bono. Only on like... Chris Martin or Adam Levigne. Or fucking Thom Yorke, maybe. Ugh. *shudders* The future is grim.

I live on Long Island, and a lineup like that playing the Jones Beach Theater is so common that they could pack in crowds on an off year, let alone a nostalgia tour.

 

[ShittyRecolor]

Worse: I bet Train and Lifehouse are planning their County Fair Tour even as we speak.



Worse still: people acting like Coldplay is the second coming of U2. Think like, All That You Can't Leave Behind era Bono. Only on like... Chris Martin or Adam Levigne. Or fucking Thom Yorke, maybe. Ugh. *shudders* The future is grim.

To this day I have a hard time understanding why so many people dig Coldplay. The singer sounds like he's gonna dose off at any second and their songs are full of musical commonplaces without adding any kind of unique twist to them to differenciate themselves from everyone else. No wonder they were sued so much for plagiarism (while I don't think all those claims are legit, it does come to show how cliché they sound). The only two early 2000s bands I like less are Arctic Monkeys and Fall Out Boy.

 

[Syaoran Li]

The 2000's were a dark age for music.

Though in my opinon, the 2010's aren't much better.

 

[escapegoat]

I think it's the same impulse that fueled Nickleback: comfort in predictability.

Only, instead of of like, lame-o rock star cliches, it's pretty and inoffensively sad, I guess? Melancholy mid-tempo dad rock. The best part is that there were Coldplay knock offs. Aqualung. Jet. Snow Patrol. Omg, I fucking hated Snow Patrol. Just ugh. There were also all those dudes that were just another version of John Mayer.

 

[ShittyRecolor]

The 2000's were a dark age for music.

Though in my opinon, the 2010's aren't much better.

Your really had to dig deep to find the really good stuff, and in those earlier years of shitty internet finding them was easier said than done.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Your really had to dig deep to find the really good stuff, and in those earlier years of shitty internet finding them was easier said than done.

This is true. But to me, a lot of 2010's "indie" stuff is just boring hipster garbage. Maybe it's just me, but I just generally prefer older music for some reason. Even the stuff most Millennials consider "Dad Rock" is stuff that I overall prefer to the music of the 2000's and 2010's.

I'm weird in the fact that I mainly listen to music ranging from the 1950's to the 1980's as a general rule (though I do like some 90's music too), mainly a mix of oldies pop hits, classic rock, classic country, and bluegrass.

Even the so-called pop trash of the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's, while not great, is still fun and enjoyable to me.

Thank God I have the internet and can listen to all the older music I like at any time. That is the saving grace of the 2010's, in my opinion.

 

[ShittyRecolor]

This is true. But to me, a lot of 2010's "indie" stuff is just boring hipster garbage. Maybe it's just me, but I just generally prefer older music for some reason. Even the stuff most Millennials consider "Dad Rock" is stuff that I overall prefer to the music of the 2000's and 2010's.

I'm weird in the fact that I mainly listen to music ranging from the 1950's to the 1980's as a general rule (though I do like some 90's music too), mainly a mix of oldies pop hits, classic rock, classic country, and bluegrass.

Even the so-called pop trash of the 50's, 60's, 70's and 80's, while not great, is still fun and enjoyable to me.

Thank God I have the internet and can listen to all the older music I like at any time. That is the saving grace of the 2010's, in my opinion.

Oh yeah, I can't stand most of that Brit Pop-aping indie garbage either. I am Kloot is one of the few bands from the genre that actually produces something musically interesting.

The big thing about popular music from decades ago is that even the most mainstream stuff was musically and technically a lot more complex and interesting most of the time than what you hear in the charts nowadays. Chet Atkins' version of Mr. Sandman was a huge radio hit in the '50s, and with its complex 16 chords and Atkins' one-man-band fingerstyle it makes songs like Pokerface or Umbrella seem positively primitive.

Not saying you can't write a good song without virtuosity, otherwise I wouldn't like the music of Bob Dylan or Simon and Garfunkel, but there was a lot more musical dexterity and adventurousness involved back them, while recently charts are mostly about creating music to appeal to the lowest common denominator. You have to use the most cliché possible chord progressions and melodies to sound "catchy" and comfortably familiar, and at best the vocalist might show some signs of technical competence beyond the basics, with maybe a cookie cutter 4 bar guitar\sax solo thrown in the mix every now and then. The pool of musical ideas they're getting inspiration from is just progressively getting thinner and thinner, and even when a top-40 song does something a bit different it's usually something gimmicky and trivial compared to what a listener with a broader musical spectrum might be used to. Again, it's okay to listen to or like non-challenging music, but I think some blood transfusion into the mainstream music scene is in order. It really makes me appreciate the music of Guthrie Govan, Animals as Leaders, Rob Scallon, Bumblefoot or Dirty Projectors, who actually do interesting stuff that lays outside of people's comfort zones or might even break some new ground.

 

[The Sultan of Oman]

You know, maybe it's just because I honestly don't pay attention to mainstream music at all aside from a couple reviewers, but I... don't really think the 2000s were that bad for music? Sure, the mainstream stuff was generally garbage, but I feel like (non-pop) punk and alternative hip-hop shined especially. There was a lot of good emo stuff beyond the standard mallcore bands, too... maybe that's all because of the general climate of things post-9/11. Or maybe I just play the Tony Hawk games too much.

 

[Hodor]

I liked ska tbh.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

Spoiler: The 2000s in a Nutshell

Fuck this decade.

 

[Pepito The Cat]

A millon times this shit. Fuck you George!

 

[Coldgrip]

I liked ska tbh.

Ska doesn't get enough love.

 

[RichardMongler]

You know, maybe it's just because I honestly don't pay attention to mainstream music at all aside from a couple reviewers, but I... don't really think the 2000s were that bad for music? Sure, the mainstream stuff was generally garbage, but I feel like (non-pop) punk and alternative hip-hop shined especially. There was a lot of good emo stuff beyond the standard mallcore bands, too... maybe that's all because of the general climate of things post-9/11. Or maybe I just play the Tony Hawk games too much.

Truth be told, some of the underground internet-only Hip-Hop during the early years was pretty fun. A friend of mine gave me a burned copy of one of these guy's album. Fuck me for losing it because, truth be told, discovering studio-quality albums online was a novel concept and "The Meaning of Artlife" by The Starving Artists appears to be a lost album. I've tried contacting their official email a few times with no reply.

Anyway, yeah, mainstream Hip-Hop from the late '90s to today's music is dreadful. It's hard to know what went wrong (lots of people blame Southern Hip-Hop, although no one's sure), but the rhymes get lamer with each passing year as do the beats.

 

[Caesare]

Anyway, yeah, mainstream Hip-Hop from the late '90s to today's music is dreadful. It's hard to know what went wrong (lots of people blame Southern Hip-Hop, although no one's sure), but the rhymes get lamer with each passing year as do the beats.

Southern rap took over because the fans respect its authenticity. People were getting sick of all the lies and fake stunting coming from the rest of that community so they latched on to something different (in their eyes) even though it's been around forever.

A lot of mainstream rap from the 90s was great! Pac, Easy E, Snoop.. all great choices. And let's face it, whatever you like now wouldn't exist without those guys.

 

[ILoveMylarBalloons]

Spoiler: The 2000s in a Nutshell

Fuck this decade.

Fuck u 2010's lover.

Southern rap took over because the fans respect its authenticity. People were getting sick of all the lies and fake stunting coming from the rest of that community so they latched on to something different (in their eyes) even though it's been around forever.

A lot of mainstream rap from the 90s was great! Pac, Easy E, Snoop.. all great choices. And let's face it, whatever you like now wouldn't exist without those guys.

some of the emienm 00's rap was good to.

A millon times this shit. Fuck you George!

fuck Donald J Trump he is all about the awl in his mouth...
Goerge W Bush was a great president.

You know, maybe it's just because I honestly don't pay attention to mainstream music at all aside from a couple reviewers, but I... don't really think the 2000s were that bad for music? Sure, the mainstream stuff was generally garbage, but I feel like (non-pop) punk and alternative hip-hop shined especially. There was a lot of good emo stuff beyond the standard mallcore bands, too... maybe that's all because of the general climate of things post-9/11. Or maybe I just play the Tony Hawk games too much.

even some of the mainstream music was decent in the early 2000's but in the 2010's all music suck.

The 2000's were a dark age for music.

Though in my opinon, the 2010's aren't much better.

really?
this proves u wrong bc 2000's was the golden era for music also the 1990's was good too but fuck the 1950's-1980's and 2010's!

Nuff said.

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fuck rock n roll it has always sucked anyway...

 

[ILoveMylarBalloons]

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[Syaoran Li]

fuck Donald J Trump he is all about the awl in his mouth...
Goerge W Bush was a great president.


really?
this proves u wrong bc 2000's was the golden era for music also the 1990's was good too but fuck the 1950's-1980's and 2010's!

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a braying jackass but George W. Bush was one of the worst presidents we have had in recent years. Regardless of whether you are liberal or conservative, the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the subsequent quagmire was a huge mistake and was one of the direct factors in the rise of ISIS and the Syrian Civil War (along with the Arab Spring of the early 2010's and a massive drought in Syria that damaged the Syrian economy and caused food shortages).

The fact that you are so blinded by nostalgia you think Bush was a great president speaks volumes about your intelligence (or lack thereof).

And as for music? That is a subjective opinion. Personally, I think the 2000's had terrible music and the 1950's-1980's happens to be my favorite era of music. But that is just my opinion and nothing more.

Seriously, this shitposting stopped being funny ages ago. Also, Bratz dolls are totally lame and a grown man should not be playing with them.

 

[ILoveMylarBalloons]

Don't get me wrong, Trump is a braying jackass but George W. Bush was one of the worst presidents we have had in recent years. Regardless of whether you are liberal or conservative, the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the subsequent quagmire was a huge mistake and was one of the direct factors in the rise of ISIS and the Syrian Civil War (along with the Arab Spring of the early 2010's and a massive drought in Syria that damaged the economy and caused food shortages).

The fact that you are so blinded by nostalgia you think Bush was a great president speaks volumes about your intelligence (or lack thereof).

And as for music? That is a subjective opinion. Personally, I think the 2000's had terrible music and the 1950's-1980's happens to be my favorite era of music. But that is just my opinion and nothing more.

Seriously, this shitposting stopped being funny ages ago. Also, Bratz dolls are totally lame and a grown man should not be playing with them.

Goerge W Bush rulez! fuck u! and all of that w/ Syria started when Obama was president anyway...

Bratz are beautiful!
FUCK NATURAL BEAUTITY!!! FUCK FEMINISM!!! GIRLS SHOULD WEAR MAKEUP AND DRESS GOOD!!!! FUCK 2010's!!!

 

[Syaoran Li]

Goerge W Bush rulez! fuck u! and all of that w/ Syria started when Obama was president anyway...

Bratz are beautiful!
FUCK NATURAL BEAUTITY!!! FUCK FEMINISM!!! GIRLS SHOULD WEAR MAKEUP AND DRESS GOOD!!!! FUCK 2010's!!!

Lol, calm down.

Obama sucked too, and he did little (if anything at all) to actually resolve the mess Bush made. Obama didn't withdraw from Iraq until very late into his first term, and he also didn't do anything to nip this whole Syria mess in the bud when he had the chance. If anything, Obama made things worse and a lot of his policies were just continuations of Bush-era policies but with a thin veneer of pseudo-progressive identity politics (especially in his first term). Really the only thing that separates Obama's policies from Bush's is the Affordable Healthcare Act. In terms of foreign policies and the abuse of executive orders, Obama was just another Neocon in sheep's clothing, just like Hillary.

Clinton sucked, Bush sucked, Obama sucked, and Trump will probably suck by the time his first term is up. Same shit, different day.

The Middle East was a clusterfuck to begin with, but the Iraq War only made things ten times worse and helped set the stage for ISIS.

Wait, why am I discussing recent history and world politics with an idiot manchild who plays with Bratz dolls and loves George W. Bush solely because of childish nostalgia? Fuck my life.

There's only one way I can wade through this much autism....