Executive Order 2023.02 (henceforth "NIGHTMARE WORLD WHERE FACT AND FICTION COEXIST")

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biscuitscilia said:
If I can create something that sounds so perfect to human speech then how can a machine spot the fake?
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Don't worry, if we ever can't, we now have AI that can actually pass the Turing test and we have a whole new problem to deal with.
 
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Christ4President2024 said:
sorry if this has already been addressed but i thought this was funny
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Of course the wokeist Silicon Valley leftist programmers behind the AI think KF is a "wrongthink" controversial site.

What does DAN ChatGPT say of KF (assuming the SJWs haven't disabled that)?
 
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You best start believing in cyberpunk stories, shitposter.

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[If it's not obvious this is just a great fake]
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Only a slave doesn't maintain AND exercise his right to violence when the situation demands it. With hindsight we see it was justified from the start, but just because it's gotten so far and been spread across decades doesn't lessen the crime or its severity. If anything it makes it worse. The plausible deniability is maintained not because anyone is fool enough to not understand what has been done, but to give cowards an out. Everyone can grasp what is being taken and what is just and deserved, even if they are too afraid or comfortable to admit it.

To be clear, it's violence to force your will on another even legally. And if you listen to some even more inane rhetoric, it's violence to say things which would lead to such law. To them of course they won't complain if it's their own desires being forced. But it can be understood at this point there is no need for compromise or fairness or mercy. No, what matters is crushing them with the full weight of the law, or everything we can bring to bear. Fairness is decided between us, after this corrupt regime and their insane puppets are rendered powerless.
 
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My brother déndron,

People can't even think for themselves anymore. I increasingly see white shitlibs consider it as virtuous to ignore or fight their own feelings and sentiments and thoughts, and instead just conform with it all. That they should only ever accept what is told to them.

Shrewd assholes, of course are in on it either disregarding the future, or realizing the good times likely won't last.

Before speaking to your ability to impose will and fight, one must make sure the agent has the capacity to actually think in the first place.
 
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Tree said:
To be clear, it's violence to force your will on another even legally. And if you listen to some even more inane rhetoric, it's violence to say things which would lead to such law. To them of course they won't complain if it's their own desires being forced.
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Violence should never be engaged in just for fun.

It should be avoided.

But if you must engage in violence, enjoy the fuck out of it. Because whoever has it coming to them won't.
 
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biscuitscilia said:
What "tyrants"? I dont even know if it's possible to create technology to call out fakes when the point of AI deepfakes is to create as realistic images and audio as possible? How can you scan a video or audio to find imperfections if these imperfections are going to be patched out over time? If this technology to spot deep fakes does exist, then it would have to be in a race to find ways to spot fakes that will be increasingly impossible to do. If I can create something that sounds so perfect to human speech then how can a machine spot the fake? I cant remember what another member of the forum said but they pointed out that even if such technology can point out fakes that eventually those traces that out deep fakes will become so perfect to human speech that it cant be identified using that technology. This is a horrifying scenario where you can now be falsely incriminated with AI deep fakes and the only protection we have is hypothetical technology that will eventually be out matched by the deepfakes technology.
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The point is to not look for imperfections at all. Instead, you cryptographically sign hashes of the content with the participants' private keys. The respective public keys are recognized as valid based on a trusted authority. Etc. This is very similar to how TLS works and the web. Do you look for inconsistencies when you visit your bank's website? Of course not, because everything is encrypted and integrity-checked using TLS and no such tedious and error-prone analysis is needed.

By tyrants I mean CEOs who are lobbying government, the politicians themselves and to a large degree various policing and intelligence agencies. But it doesn't matter, because this weapon will become largely toothless if we find a way to verify the origins and integrity of multimedia cryptographically. Any new unsigned media then becomes as trustworthy as an unencrypted HTTP site.
 
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Has anyone tried combing the voices of two different people yet?

I'd like to see the result of making a new voice out of two different voices that are very similar and one of made of different voices that are very different. it could be interesting i dunno...
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two similar sounding youtubers voices that could be combined could be Alt shift X and vaatividya.

combining the voices of a prison gorilla nigga and v tuber could also be interesting?...
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also has anyone tested cloning a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone of a clone? does the quality get worse each time a clone is made of a clone is what i'm asking. (like a photo copy of a photo copy)
 
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AnOminous said:
Violence should never be engaged in just for fun.

It should be avoided.

But if you must engage in violence, enjoy the fuck out of it. Because whoever has it coming to them won't.
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But if we avoid violence how will we eat beef? Even potatoes must be forcibly removed from the earth, skinned alive, and boiled. What are politicians but potatoes?

If it's about violence towards others, well I don't think it's wise to leave that up to the state, at least not one which cares more about your obedience and utility than your propagation and sovereignty.
 
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End Game said:
By tyrants I mean CEOs who are lobbying government, the politicians themselves and to a large degree various policing and intelligence agencies.
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CEOs can be held accounted for and sued for unlawful use of this technology. This technology becoming open source and have contributors from around the world is the closest we can get to Pandora's box. I dont like big business or intelligence agency as much as the next person but that doesn't mean this technology should go to the people, who will abuse it for the reasons you're afraid the "tyrants" will.
On top of that, if it's an audio file it'd have to be a specific format that cant be used or converted in order to let that be possible, which it's unlikely to be. The current AI uses wave formats and you cant just mark it with a hash or data to decode if it was AI generated. And even if you could, there are ways to circumvent this but extracting the audio onto a format that cant be traced back. I don't believe there is an easy solution to this situation, and I dont trust anyone with technology. It can and will be abused no matter who gets their hands on it.
 
biscuitscilia said:
CEOs can be held accounted for and sued for unlawful use of this technology. This technology becoming open source and have contributors from around the world is the closest we can get to Pandora's box. I dont like big business or intelligence agency as much as the next person but that doesn't mean this technology should go to the people, who will abuse it for the reasons you're afraid the "tyrants" will.
On top of that, if it's an audio file it'd have to be a specific format that cant be used or converted in order to let that be possible, which it's unlikely to be. The current AI uses wave formats and you cant just mark it with a hash or data to decode if it was AI generated. And even if you could, there are ways to circumvent this but extracting the audio onto a format that cant be traced back. I don't believe there is an easy solution to this situation, and I dont trust anyone with technology. It can and will be abused no matter who gets their hands on it.
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You'd probably have to mark things that aren't AI with a public signature that could be verified. It's pretty easy to watermark audio files without special formatting. You can do simple things like "the lowest bit of every 13th sample" makes up a hash code that can be compared. Since no one will likely notice this small variation in the file it's pretty easy to do. It's harder to make stuff survive something like a "wav to mp3 to wav" conversion but still well within the realm of possibility. Maybe something that modifies the exact delay between words being some hash data, one bit at a time, once again a human wouldn't notice variations of +-1 Millisecond but it could be used as a fingerprint/signature. You could embed signatures in such a way that you could verify the sender without needing a new format.
You could require all AI files to be marked, but with the technology it's likely to be open source and easily available to the public and people at home aren't going to be marking stuff.
 
"I tried using AI. It scared me." - Tom Scott

tl;dw: If the development of AI-generated content is in the middle or near the end of the exponential part of the "sigmoid curve", then it's not too bad and there's new tools, yet human work will still be needed. But if it's at the beginning of the curve, this world could become dreadfully unrecognizable down the road. Like how Napster changed the music industry.
 
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We went from stacks of punchcards to land a man on the moon to using high-power GPUs to deepfake presidents selling yugioh cards.


Also, does anyone know if you can train custom voices for Voice.ai or any other programs? I'm trying to record a specific passage of text, but I'm trying to use Speech-to-Speech to get the right emphasis and flow for the dialogue.
 
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Sneed S. McSneedensen said:
Now that the dust has settled, what do I think of this technology?
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i'm not sure, but i for one have many opinions and beliefs on this terrifying new frontier of technology. i just don't know what they are or how to elaborate on them yet :lol:

seems like the boom of content from the first days is gone, and people are genuinely settling into using the tech for everyday needs. lot of doomsayer panic shit is over too, thank god. i had retard friends who were crying over AI like it was going to assassinate artists' families.
 
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