US Facing a wave of P320 lawsuits, Sig Sauer asked for immunity. NH lawmakers granted it. - New Hampshire sweeps it up for the Siggers

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New Hampshire Public Radio | By Todd Bookman​

Published May 28, 2025 at 4:28 PM EDT
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The new law has drawn pushback from people who've been injured from unintentional firings of their Sig Sauer pistols.​

Back in April, in a nearly empty room at the New Hampshire State House, Bobby Cox, an executive with gunmaker Sig Sauer, had come with a request.

He said his company, one of the biggest gun manufacturers in the country and a major employer on New Hampshire’s Seacoast, needed protection. Specifically, Sig Sauer wanted state lawmakers to shield it from a barrage of liability lawsuits that allege the company’s best-selling P320 pistol has an inherent safety defect.

“We want to bring this amendment to you to show what out-of-state plaintiffs’ attorneys are doing, attacking in-state businesses,” Cox told a Senate committee. “And we ask for your support and help.”

Over the past few years, Newington-based Sig Sauer has been sued dozens of times by gun owners who were shot by their own P320s, including police officers and federal agents, and who claim the gun’s design — and its lack of an external safety — make the company liable for injuries.

Sig Sauer has denied the weapons are unsafe and has been fighting the lawsuits in court. But over the past few weeks, the company has used its influence as one of the state’s largest manufacturers to change New Hampshire law to protect itself from future liability lawsuits. The measure Cox was advocating for swiftly cleared the Legislature, without any notice for public comment. Last week, Gov. Kelly Ayotte signed the bill — one day after it cleared its final vote — despite objections from some Democrats, as well as lawyers and injured plaintiffs who say the company should be forced to defend the claims in court. The speed with which the bill moved through the State House underscores both Sig Sauer’s desire to cut off future costly lawsuits, and the company’s sway in a Legislature run by a gun-friendly Republican Party.

“Sig Sauer should focus on changing the defective design of its P320,” said Robert Zimmerman, a Pennsylvania-based attorney who has filed dozens of cases against the company. “Instead, Sig Sauer is paying lobbyists to change New Hampshire law to deprive local, state and federal law enforcement officers and private gun owners from having their day in court and to hold Sig Sauer accountable for their serious injuries.”

‘It’s never the firearm’

Since its rollout in 2017, the P320 pistol has become one of the country’s most popular pistols, with more than 3.6 million guns sold. A version of the gun is now carried by soldiers across every branch of the U.S. military, and the P320 is a leading choice for local and state law enforcement agencies.
But in recent years, the civilian model of the gun has faced a steady stream of allegations over its trigger mechanism and its lack of an external safety as a standard feature. Dozens of people have filed lawsuits, claiming they suffered hip, leg or foot gunshot wounds after their P320s fired unexpectedly, often while holstered. Attorneys have called the gun the “most dangerous pistol” sold in the United States.

The lawsuits have alleged that the company is negligent for not including an external safety and for not warning consumers about the weapon’s alleged risks.
Sig Sauer has denied the allegations about the P320.

“It's never the firearm,” Cox, the Sig Sauer lobbyist, told New Hampshire lawmakers in April. He blamed the injuries on a lack of training, as well as the weapon snagging on holsters or other items getting caught in the trigger.

Judges and juries have handed down mixed verdicts in these lawsuits, and a proposed class action lawsuit was dismissed. But in the past year, two juries awarded multi-million dollar verdicts in favor of men injured by their P320.

In New Hampshire, there are at least 80 pending cases against Sig Sauer.
The new liability law, which prohibits lawsuits that focus on the gun’s lack of an external safety, won’t affect those cases. But it does shift the landscape for any future cases.
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Late introduction limits public input

Critics of the bill point out that New Hampshire residents, including members of law enforcement, now have no avenue to seek financial compensation if they are injured by their P320.
By introducing the amendment late in the Senate session, Gannon avoided any public notice for a hearing. That hearing, attorneys say, would have provided a forum for people injured by their P320 to explain to lawmakers the risks they allege the gun carries.

The bill also has national implications: plaintiffs attorneys have been filing cases in New Hampshire’s federal court — sometimes dozens at a time in groups — as a way to streamline the legal process.

Now, those attorneys could be forced to manage individual cases in courts all around the country, which comes with added costs and potential delays.

“It appears like you want to shut off an avenue for people to come to New Hampshire to get justice,” state Sen. Debra Altschiller, a Democrat, told Cox during the hearing in April.

Local backers of Sig Sauer, though, view these cases as unwarranted and an attack on a major local employer.

“Their home is New Hampshire,” Sen. Bill Gannon, the Republican lawmaker who introduced the Sig-friendly amendment, told colleagues. “They want to stay in New Hampshire, and they're asking us to help fight against false defective claims.”

By introducing the amendment late in the Senate session, Gannon avoided any public notice for a hearing. Such a hearing, attorneys say, would have provided a forum for people injured by their P320 to explain to lawmakers the risks they allege the gun carries.

“They're not going to have that opportunity now because it got railroaded through on a bullet train,” said Chuck Douglas, one of the local attorneys who has been involved in the liability cases.

Douglas said the state was wrong to side with the gunmaker over litigants. “You don't see this coming in with other handguns,” he said. “It's just the P320.”
 
Shit reminds me of a (now deleted) minecraft video from around 15 years ago involving a "ghetto people mob spawner" and an ending joke where 1 charecter TRIES to spare a ghetto black guy who almost killed him, but the gun JUST goes off and the dude says "this gun sucks ass!! it just goes off whenever it feels like".

I was going to attach the video , but FFS I can't find it.

Probably a way lamer reference without the video.... Hate when stuff becomes lost media
 
I have one of the early version of these. I would have no issue putting a round in it and beating it on a log with zero fear of it firing. The early recall I got was voluntary and sounded like " if you are a retard that rests your finger on there trigger, we will add 4" of travel and a heavy spring so you can't shoot 1 of your 18 kids in the face.
 
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The ZiP has to be the Chris Chan of guns. I remember holding one at a gun shop on a road trip and thinking it was kinda neat and seemed fun for $200 or what ever it was..... I did some research when I got home and I don't think there was a single positive review on the thing.
The way I understand it was one of those completely impractical guns that would have been cool to own but they could be bothered to actually make it function
 
The ZiP has to be the Chris Chan of guns. I remember holding one at a gun shop on a road trip and thinking it was kinda neat and seemed fun for $200 or what ever it was..... I did some research when I got home and I don't think there was a single positive review on the thing.
The way I understand it was one of those completely impractical guns that would have been cool to own but they could be bothered to actually make it function
At least Chris-chan managed to penetrate a human being
I reckon you can't even poke a hole in cheese with the ZiP
 
What this law is doing is protecting Sig and any other manufacturer from claims that hinge upon the presence or absence of an external safety lever. This is a good thing, because as mentioned above, all of my striker-fired pistols, which do not need such a mechanism, would be effectively outlawed under such a theory.

But let's look right there at that next section. Nothing in the law shall be construed as protecting from an actual defect. So a lawsuit that tries to claim that Sig is liable because there's no external safety lever will be tossed, as it should be. But if the trigger mechanism genuinely has no other means to prevent the release of the hammer by anything other than the full, intentional depression of the trigger, and the guns are discharging while properly holstered, then yes. that is a retardedly defective mechanism, and Sig should be liable.
Yeah, the state legislature of NH has a whole Twitter community with actual back and forth debates on proposed legislation.

This is a dumb article and I’m disappointed in @Seafarer for posting this uncritically
 
There is no model of pistol manufactured by Sig that is designated P320 XMACRO, there is however the P365 XMACRO. The P365 series had some early teething issues I believe but are from what I understand much more mechanically safe than the P320 series.
Oh yeah that's the one I have. P365 macro. Cool, thats a relief.
 
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Part of what makes this so complex and weird is the sig's are so poorly designed they actually have two different defects.
If I were a judge on a lawsuit against Sig for the P230 and the complaint presented this argument, I would reject any motion from Sig to dismiss the suit under this new law and allow the case to move forward. Thist argument doesn't hinge itself on the presence or absence of an external safety lever as prohibited by section I, but directly alleges manufacturing defects, and is thus squarely within section II:
Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit liability for a firearm manufacturer or FFL in cases where the claimant establishes that the firearm contained an actual manufacturing defect or failed to operate in a manner consistent with the manufacturer’s express warranty or representations.

That would be a great argument for SIG if the US military's M17 and M18 pistols with external safeties weren't going off in holsters.
I didn't know this. I had heard about the P230's issues and lawsuits and assumed it was being driven by gun grabbers trying lawfare again, as they are wont to do. I stand corrected.

If I were on a jury and this was presented as evidence, I might be willing to consider voting that Sig was liable.
 
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Yeah, the state legislature of NH has a whole Twitter community with actual back and forth debates on proposed legislation.

This is a dumb article and I’m disappointed in @Seafarer for posting this uncritically
>accuses me of looking at this uncritically
>doesn’t even bother to look at the reply that points out why this law unjustly benefits Sig in ongoing litigation
That would be a great argument for SIG if the US military's M17 and M18 pistols with external safeties weren't going off in holsters.

Besides did I ever make it a point to say that I 100% agree with everything in this article? By that logic anyone posting some tranny diatribe article in A&H therefore agrees with everything in that tranny diatribe.
 
>accuses me of looking at this uncritically
>doesn’t even bother to look at the reply that points out why this law unjustly benefits Sig in ongoing litigation
The article you posted is trash, and that’s what I was talking about. If there’s redemption in the comments, good

But this was NH democrats trying to paint NH republicans as corrupt fascists or whatever. Wrong, you can still sue them for defects
 
The article you posted is trash, and that’s what I was talking about. If there’s redemption in the comments, good

But this was NH democrats trying to paint NH republicans as corrupt fascists or whatever. Wrong, you can still sue them for defects
I mean introducing laws intended to protect a major government contractor from litigation for their retarded manufacturing decisions does seem kinda corrupt tbh, and NH Democrats just so happen to be opposing this law even if their reasoning ultimately boils down to “guns bad”.
 
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I mean introducing laws intended to protect a major government contractor from litigation for their retarded manufacturing decisions does seem kinda corrupt tbh, and NH Democrats just so happen to be opposing this law even if their reasoning ultimately boils down to “guns bad”.
But that’s not what happened
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From an actual nh legislator
 
If someone doesn't like P320's or Sig's, it's whatever to me. I think I'm going on like 8 years of having one sitting around with a round in the chamber and it never going off, but I never carry it anymore cause I have a P365 XL now.

I just always thought it was funny that (at the time I still paid attention probably like 2-3 years ago) most of the unintentional firings seemed to be from cops.

It was also kind of funny that a lot of Sig haters/Glock lovers seemed to do a complete 180 on how they use statistics over it.
 
To give a little perspective to this, I own a Savage 1907, one for the first striker fired pistols.

My pistol was made in 1909, I have no idea how many people have owned and carried it before I bought it.

I have absolute belief that this pistol made back at the dawn of the 20th century can be carried safely without discharging randomly. I have occasionally carry this little mouse gun because it packs 10 rounds and it's a joy to shoot.

I have zero confidence in carrying a P320. I do not want to blow my dick off.
 
There's actually a huge split in the gun community 9ver if there is actually something wrong or if it's just user error because there really is no consensus over exactly what is causing the issue. They think it might be because they changed the material used in one of the springs on the sear and it loses some of its springy-ness with use which then can cause the firing pin of slip or something along those lines.

It's kind of similar to how cops were blowing holes through their legs when serpa holsters became a thing.

To give a little perspective to this, I own a Savage 1907, one for the first striker fired pistols.

My pistol was made in 1909, I have no idea how many people have owned and carried it before I bought it.

I have absolute belief that this pistol made back at the dawn of the 20th century can be carried safely without discharging randomly. I have occasionally carry this little mouse gun because it packs 10 rounds and it's a joy to shoot.

I have zero confidence in carrying a P320. I do not want to blow my dick off.

Im not sure about the 1907 but 1911's and most 2011's are not inherently drop-safe and will discharge if dropped a particular way.
 
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I mean introducing laws intended to protect a major government contractor from litigation for their retarded manufacturing decisions does seem kinda corrupt tbh, and NH Democrats just so happen to be opposing this law even if their reasoning ultimately boils down to “guns bad”.
Nigger, try reading the text of the law I quoted earlier in the thread. Here, I'll repost it for your benefit.
I. In any product liability action involving a firearm, the manufacturer of the firearm and any federal firearms licensee (FFL) who sold or transferred the firearm shall not be liable in tort under any theory of defective product design, failure to warn, negligence, strict product liability, or any other claim based on the absence or presence of any of the following features:

(a) A magazine disconnect mechanism;

(b) A loaded chamber indicator;

(c) Authorized user recognition technology; or

(d) An external mechanical safety, including but not limited to a hinged, pivoting, or tabbed trigger safety.

II. Nothing in this section shall be construed to limit liability for a firearm manufacturer or FFL in cases where the claimant establishes that the firearm contained an actual manufacturing defect or failed to operate in a manner consistent with the manufacturer’s express warranty or representations.
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Nothing about this law give Sig special protection for the flaws with the P320. If you don't believe that, read the text above again, as many times as you need to in order to understand it. The law blocks the most common bullshit attack vectors gun grabbers try to use to impair gun ownership through lawfare, but does not protect Sig or anyone else for actual manufacturing defects.
 
I just always thought it was funny that (at the time I still paid attention probably like 2-3 years ago) most of the unintentional firings seemed to be from cops.
When cops shot themselves with Glocks it was always because they forgot to empty the chamber before taking the slide off for disassembly. Those guns are stupidly designed so you have to pull the trigger to take them down. But with the Sigs it's just them going off in the holsters when they get jostled. It's happening a lot to cops because cops are getting in and out of cars, brushing past things, and wrestling people all the time.
 
When cops shot themselves with Glocks it was always because they forgot to empty the chamber before taking the slide off for disassembly. Those guns are stupidly designed so you have to pull the trigger to take them down. But with the Sigs it's just them going off in the holsters when they get jostled. It's happening a lot to cops because cops are getting in and out of cars, brushing past things, and wrestling people all the time
I'm just saying, I think Sig has a point that improper handling could be playing a big factor in these misfires. Nobody seems to ever question if these cops are even using proper holsters with their weapons. The one time I ever saw a case of a civilian having this happen was someone who was trying to quick draw while practicing for a competition. (again, years ago, so maybe more examples of non LE incidents have come up?)

This isn't even getting into the fact that the majority of cops are fucking retards with their firearms and only ever train when they have to pass a qualification or something.

I've read there are around 100-200 people being represented in these lawsuits. So like 100-200 guns out of 2.5 million are "firing on their own"? So that's like, what, .006 to .008 percent? And this is supposed to be "the most dangerous gun in the world"?

IDK, it's just all funny to me. I'd still tell anyone that they should get rid of their P320 in exchange for some thing better though. If you're into competition shooting you should be using something far better than a cheap mass prodcued duty pistol for the military/LE, and if you're CCing just forget it. There have been so many advancements in compact/sub compact pistols in the past decade you could throw a dart at the board and get something better than a P320.
 
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