Fallout 76 General Thread - Bethesda does it again!

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Games are like movie industry. Marvel just shits out great movies. Even their weak ones are good. DC....can't fucking even get cinematography right let alone story. One almost wishes to scream "JUST LOOK AT WHAT MARVEL DID AND DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT YOU CLOWNS!!!"

Fallout76 came out right when RDR2 came out. You could have book clubs style conversations about the RDR2 story line. Even the minor characters are fleshed out with logical actions. The ending is so bitter sweet. The epilogue was wonderful.

And competing with that is a fucking shitty mod for FO4 that is selling for full price.

I would love to have a bottle of booze and about 3 hours to pick the brains of the writers of RDR2. To me, it would be on par with getting drunk and talking with Orson Welles about Citizen Kane. So many little amazing things, not listed as even a side quest. The balls of your horse retract with cold weather. And FO76, they can't even get basic shit right.

It is at best...a really shitty survival game...I mean a green lit game being a complete flip, with a FO4 skin.

Its so wrong its not even wrong. Its like a monument to failure.
 
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GethN7 said:
Know how we could find the Bethseda Ruins in Fallout 3?

If they keep going the way they are going, life will imitate art.
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Only 5 decades left until 2077 till we know for sure. Let the good times roll!
Visitor said:
MAAHHAAAAHHHH, thefrench
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AnOminous said:
Casablanca. Godfather II. The Conversation. North by Northwest. Even Goodfellas really. It's overrated.
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A man of tastes I see. Would Rear Window or Strangers on a Train be worthy of your list?

TVBForever said:
Just for the record; Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Shrek 1 and 2, Sam Raimi's Spiderman 2, Full Metal Jacket, Fight Club, Akira, and The Incredibles are way better movies than Citizen Kane.
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Citizen Kane is pretty overrated. The acting is good and the cinematography was a revolutionary game-changer for its time, but the story and characters are flat and unlikable, at least for me. Some have even told me Citizen Kane is thought-provoking and drove them to tears. A movie with as an unusual a concept as Harvey is far more thought-provoking and emotional than Kane in my personal opinion.
 
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GeneralFriendliness said:
Citizen Kane is pretty overrated. The acting is good and the cinematography was quite a scene-changer for its time, but the story and characters are flat and unlikable, at least for me. Some have even told me Citizen Kane is thought-provoking and drove them to tears. A movie with as an unusual a concept as Harvey is far more thought-provoking and emotional than Kane in my personal opinion.
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On a technical level, Citizen Kane is glorious and monumental--and I do like Orson Welles' acting; but yeah, I agree that the story is predictable and the characters are completely dull and unlikable. It's sad that a lot of film schools and/or film historians are nailing people in the head that the film is "the greatest movie ever." Honestly, that term--at least to me--is debatable.
GethN7 said:
Know how we could find the Bethseda Ruins in Fallout 3?

If they keep going the way they are going, life will imitate art.
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Ohh boy, between EA, Squeenix, and Bethesda--I can't wait til 75 years later til people discover what remains with Quiet Man, Battlefield V, Shadow of the Tomb Raider, Life is Strange, Skyrim, or any of the Fallout games. Gonna grab some popcorn.
 
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GeneralFriendliness said:
Citizen Kane is pretty overrated. The acting is good and the cinematography was quite a scene-changer for its time, but the story and characters are flat and unlikable, at least for me.
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TVBForever said:
On a technical level, Citizen Kane is glorious and monumental--and I do like Orson Welles' acting; but yeah, I agree that the story is predictable and the characters are completely dull and unlikable.
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Ruin said:
Isn't Citizen Kane celebrated mostly for the cinematography? I thought the writing and characters being boring was a fairly common opinion.
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I really quite liked the story. A man swallowed whole by his ambition, he discards everything that makes him vulnerable and in doing so leaves behind everything that makes him human, everything he achieved worth nothing in the end, none of his supposed loved ones or friends really understood him because he never really connected with them on a personal level, all that remains is his fading fortune and tarnished fame. The characters surrounding Kane aren't really supposed to be liked the way we often think we should like characters in our media, they're all flawed people who got sucked into Kane's cult of personality. It's made all the more tragic looking at it from a modern context, where popular media is so obviously transient and meaningless, the fickle masses so eager to consume and move on to the next big thing. Kane is the original 20th century lolcow, he spends his whole adult life on this completely hollow pursuit of vanity only to realise in his final days that for all his hard work he never shared with anyone what was actually precious to him, he forgot to even cherish it himself.

Now that I've written this all out and read it back it actually sounds a lot like the story of Bethesda, so I guess this is on-topic after all!
 
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Visitor said:
I really quite liked the story. A man swallowed whole by his ambition, he discards everything that makes him vulnerable and in doing so leaves behind everything that makes him human, everything he achieved worth nothing in the end, none of his supposed loved ones or friends really understood him because he never really connected with them on a personal level, all that remains is his fading fortune and tarnished fame. The characters surrounding Kane aren't really supposed to be liked the way we often think we should like characters in our media, they're all flawed people who got sucked into Kane's cult of personality. It's made all the more tragic looking at it from a modern context, where popular media is so obviously transient and meaningless, the fickle masses so eager to consume and move on to the next big thing. Kane is the original 20th century lolcow, he spends his whole adult life on this completely hollow pursuit of vanity only to realise in his final days that for all his hard work he never shared with anyone what was actually precious to him, he forgot to even cherish it himself.

Now that I've written this all out and read it back it actually sounds a lot like the story of Bethesda, so I guess this is on-topic after all!
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So...in a way Fallout 76 is actually the Citizen Kane of video games?
 
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Man, if I was legit--a filmmaker--I would make a biopic of the life of Todd Howard and made it in the same style as Citizen Kane; actually just thinking about it. Having his lies and Fallout 76 being the third act equivalent to Foster Kane and his downfall during the late-20s/early-30s before and after the Stock Market Crash.
 
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I can see it, Todd Howard lying on his deathbed, holding a ceramic Vault Boy bobblehead, whispers "It.. Just... Works..." and everyone is trying to figure out what he meant, because nothing ever worked!

And in the end when his heirs are cleaning out his palatial estate, they find an old ratty nylon duffel bag filled with copies of Elder Scrolls 6 and Starfield. The bag and its contents are burned, believed to be trash.
 
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GeneralFriendliness said:
A man of tastes I see. Would Rear Window or Strangers on a Train be worthy of your list?
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Haven't seen the latter, but Rear Window definitely. Kane has the problem of a lot of the great movies, including the Godfather movies, in that it's huge and monumental and to some degree difficult to watch. There's just more of a payoff to Godfather, though. The reward for watching Citizen Kane is that congratulations, now you've watched Citizen Kane, and it's one of those things you're supposed to do so you can check it off the list.
 
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