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ShortBusDriver
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House is supposed to be Howard Hughes
There's a portrait in the game that's clearly based on a famous photo of Howard Hughes as well.
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Fallout Tactics is only debatably canon at this point. Bethesda said Tactics and Brotherhood of Steel (the shitty PS2 game) arent canon, however, I think the midwest chapter is mentioned in F3 and NV, tho as to their current status, thats kept VERY vague. All we know is that the chapter exists but everything else from Tactics isnt confirmed.
It almost makes me wonder if Bethesda intends to do a game set there someday, hence why the cahpter and its current status are kept vague.
And I THINK the prydwen is the first of its kind. At least canonically, it is.
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My headcanon is that Tactics was a massively embellished and somewhat misremembered version of events as told by an old Brotherhood Paladin who actually managed to live long enough to get a wee bit senile, that the computer in Vault 0 was destroyed at the end of the campaign because it was just too fucking dangerous to allow to exist given that it just shat out armies of murderous murderbots, and that Elder Lyons was the head of the midwestern chapter who continued to push east towards the capital after everything in the midwest went tits up.
It kinda makes sense they would given their proximity, because outside of it happening to be where they crashed and the now destroyed Vault 0 what the fuck is in Illinois that the Brotherhood would give a rough shit about? Might as well head to areas that might have more high technology to loot.
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You know, that is so bizzare and yet fitting that I might just take it as well. It honestly makes me wonder if Lyons had been in the Midwest. Sadly, he died so its not like he can answer that anymore, only if any future game mention this.
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To be fair, pretty much all of them were either assholes or psychotic asshole.
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The closest to "good endings" are Good Karma NCR with the factions working together with it but keeping their indepency (like with the brotherhood) or Independence with the Robo army to control any rioting. Mr house's endings arent good (or at least in the long term) because who knows what Mr House might do in the future, he may SAY he wont do anything bad but its his words only. The Legion's endings are much worse, especially since the legion will fall apart without Ceasar sooner or later (even if you keep him alive, he will die sooner or later and everyone predicts that legion will fall apart once their strong leader bites the dust and power struggles begin to crack apart the tribes that compose the Legion).
But ultimately there is no "perfect" ending. Life isnt as simple as that and NV is aware of it. You did your part and now its consequences are yet to be seen.
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I've always thought the best ending for the Mojave was the good karma one for House with good NCR relations. There's a number of NPCs who comment that the NCR has spread its self too thin and is close to collapsing, and that if they win the Hoover Dam it'll likely just embolden them to keep expanding. With House in charge they get the energy they need but are forced to return home defeated and regroup, with one of the Rangers slides mentioning that public and political support for the military dwindles.
As for House himself, the guy's a self-made billionaire who created one of the most successful pre-war companies that invented a lot of the technology used in Fallout, predicated the war and when the bombs would fall (which allowed him to save Vegas), and has essentially made himself immortal. Some of the stuff he does (or makes you do) is heinous but not entirely unreasonable. He's an unrivaled genius in the Fallout universe and I think as a whole the world is better with him in it than with him dead.
As for House himself, the guy's a self-made billionaire who created one of the most successful pre-war companies that invented a lot of the technology used in Fallout, predicated the war and when the bombs would fall (which allowed him to save Vegas), and has essentially made himself immortal. Some of the stuff he does (or makes you do) is heinous but not entirely unreasonable. He's an unrivaled genius in the Fallout universe and I think as a whole the world is better with him in it than with him dead.
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Which is sort of bullshit considering how spare the dc area looks 200 years later. Unless right before shutting down servers they announce that nuclear submarines are finally launching their missiles and rewiping out the east coast then this entire game is bullshit. Its less than a days walk from where 76 takes place to the capital wasteland. Why arent things similar?
Also a big reason for the huge population on the west coast was the vaults and breeding programs right? It goes from less than 10k in the la metro area 80 years after the bombs to slightly over 100k in the san fran metro.
Thats something 76 isnt really getting yet either. Killing 12 people was a huge fucking deal in the 2100s the masters army was like 100 tops. The population in the game should be extreme small
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House was very talented, yes, but he wasn't entirely self made. His family was already very wealthy being the co-founders and owners of H&H Tools. And while it's true his assoholic bitch of a half brother Anthony fucked him out of his inheritance, that hardly stopped Robert as he had received an extensive education that allowed him to become the founder of the world's largest robotics company.
And I'm not entirely sure he's immortal, either. Yes, he's lives a long as fucking time, but have you SEEN the guy? He makes concentration camp survivors look robust and healthy! The human body is so fucking fragile we can actually die in any number of ways every single day. Aneurysm, heart failure, genetic disorders, spontaneous fucking combustion, and plain old bodily breakdown. I doubt he's managed to completely reverse the process of cellular degradation because if he had he wouldn't look like this:
The real problem I have with him is that he shouldn't be the sole guiding force behind humanity. Given that he could very likely die soon from either biological failure, the failure of his life support systems, an especially powerful EMP taking out his power or machines, or even being knocked off by someone who just wants him dead, it's unwise to put all our eggs into one fucking basket. Oh, by all means, let him have New Vegas and restart his high technology, so long as he understands that humans ought to be left to govern themselves and he should relegate himself to a position where his death WON'T fuck us over. Like, for instance, starting a sort of science initiative. Fuck, bring on the Followers of the Apocalypse to help out, loads of them are idealists and could very well help House along in his vision and perhaps some of them could become scientific protegees.
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He still created RobCo by himself. Being well educated doesn't automatically equal success, especially *that* much success.
Yes, he's not literally immortal, but he's likely to outlive every other character and therefore be able to enact and personally see through long-term, world rebuilding plans.
As for being the sole guiding force for humanity, he doesn't have to be. There's you, the courier, who stays on as his lieutenant (and if you ask him about using the cryo tech for yourself, his answer is something like "In due time."). As far as being a ruler, he admits to being an autocrat but doesn't seem to want to control anything outside of Vegas and doesn't really care what people do; he's far more interested in returning humanity to where they were before the bombs dropped, specifically mentioning wanting to reignite the high technology sectors.
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I love how nearly ten years later (8 more days!) people are still debating over the different factions in New Vegas.
What a great game.
What a great game.
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It's okay.
It's no Kingdom Hearts or anything.
It's no Kingdom Hearts or anything.
Meriasek
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I'm still 1000% sure Bethesda just saw Radioactive Dreams and took it as their main inspiration for Fallout 3, not realizing that it was a comedy.
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Christ, I thought House was arrogant, but at least he has some fucking self awareness and earned his arrogance. Caesar, however... fucking hell, he's so lacking in self awareness it's a wonder he's even sentient!
"The worst impulses of mankind concentrated in one insane backwards tribe."
Says the faggot who practices slavery and treats women like cattle. Aaaand a few dozen sticks of dynamite around his tent ought to enlighten him.
"The worst impulses of mankind concentrated in one insane backwards tribe."
Says the faggot who practices slavery and treats women like cattle. Aaaand a few dozen sticks of dynamite around his tent ought to enlighten him.
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House's ideals center around civility in an uncivilized time. Even those tribes he uplifted are still ooga boots at their core. The securitrons are of limited quantity.The most shocking thing about New Vegas is that there are people who don't side with Mr. House.
He'd be right at home in Fallout 2, but not in a Bethesdized world.
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House is by far not infallible, but I consider him the most viable option of all the players. I find it hard, especially in a post-apocalyptic setting, not to side with someone who has a robot army and turned a city into an oasis in the middle of a nuclear shithole. I get where the NCR come from, but they ultimately try to bring back a system that has already failed.
The Legion, IIRC, forcefully assimilates all the raiders and barbarian tribes like the Romans did IRL, and some of the traders, if I haven't gone fully senile, even commented on how safe Legion territory is (it's been a while since I played the game). Which I why in practical terms I'd consider them the second best option to House if they'd drop the melee only gimmick (and the usual vulnerabilities you get with a dictatorship).
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It isn't a gimmick at all. The Legion, unlike the actual Roman legions, has a terrible logistics chain and supply stores, reduced to looting and salvaging from their conquests for resupply. As you can probably imagine, guns and ammo aren't exactly common, but you'll still find plenty of firearms among the higher ranks, as opposed to the poorfag recruits and primes.
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Why would you? Being a paid mercenary has nothing on being the ruler of an independent New Vegas.The most shocking thing about New Vegas is that there are people who don't side with Mr. House.