Fallout series

Fallout 3 gets a bad rap, it's a solid game, but it's best treated as a soft reboot as tonally there are some inconsistencies, which I think is what bothered hardcore fans of the first 2 back in 2008.

But taken as it's own thing, it's good and better than 4 and 76 and of course leagues ahead of the absolute garbage of Brotherhood of Steel.

But it's New Vegas that is the one that is totally in continuity with the first 2, Bethesda's take on the franchise isn't worthless (problems with 4 and 76 aside), but it's also not really the real McCoy either.
 
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Again, I'm still waiting on an answer-what company or game developer today can do a better job? Damn near everyone here thinks Bethesda is a poor handler for the Fallout franchise, but nowadays, they're not the sole handler for that franchise, Microsoft is. And if the fans make enough of a stink to let another company get a crack at making a Fallout game, Microsoft might just listen.

There's no better time than now to have another developer studio tackle Fallout. Bethesda's sole ownership of Fallout died when they sold themselves to Microsoft.

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Because Horrigan was meant to be a perfect super soldier.
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Master Chief from Halo is the perfect super soldier. That didn't stop him from nearly wiping out humanity on accident. And again, Horrigan's intelligence is nowhere shown in the game. It just feels like they slapped perfect 10s across the board to make him tough.

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Fallout 3 gets a bad rap, it's a solid game, but it's best treated as a soft reboot as tonally there are some inconsistencies, which I think is what bothered hardcore fans of the first 2 back in 2008.

But taken as it's own thing, it's good and better than 4 and 76 and of course leagues ahead of the absolute garbage of Brotherhood of Steel.

But it's New Vegas that is the one that is totally in continuity with the first 2, Bethesda's take on the franchise isn't worthless (problems with 4 and 76 aside), but it's also not really the real McCoy either.
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Bethesda's Fallout 3 is what Brotherhood of Steel should have been, and New Vegas is the actual Fallout 3 that continued the story of 1 and 2.
 
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God and I thought I was autistic about some series..... Imperator please just shut up and quit fixating on stupid arbitrary shit like a final boss being given perfect stats because he is the freaking final boss, you are embarrassing yourself.
 
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God and I thought I was autistic about some series..... Imperator please just shut up and quit fixating on stupid arbitrary shit like a final boss being given perfect stats because he is the freaking final boss, you are embarrassing yourself.
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It just doesn't make sense how a guy with perfect 10s across the board acts like he has a fist for a brain.

At least Ulysses sounded smart, if not a tad bit insane.

You still haven't answered my other question. Who can manage Fallout better than Bethesda? Because now that Fallout is Microsoft's property, they might actually let another company have a shot at making a Fallout game. You people keep whining about how bad Bethesda is for Fallout, and yet, you guys have no idea with who to replace them with?
 
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It just doesn't make sense how a guy with perfect 10s across the board acts like he has a fist for a brain.

At least Ulysses sounded smart, if not a tad bit insane.

You still haven't answered my other question. Who can manage Fallout better than Bethesda? Because now that Fallout is Microsoft's property, they might actually let another company have a shot at making a Fallout game. You people keep whining about how bad Bethesda is for Fallout, and yet, you guys have no idea with who to replace them with?
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Horrigan's stats, like most NPC stats, are under the hood stuff that are only visible if you start poking around in files that don't appear as part of gameplay.

Bitching about them makes as much sense as complaining that the monorail in Broken Steel is actually a dude with a giant train for a head. "So unrealistic!"
 
I'm still waiting for an answer to my main question. If you guys all think Bethesda is bad for Fallout, then who can do a better job? Which company or game dev can be better for Fallout? Because at this point, Microsoft might actually let someone else make another Fallout, especially with Bethesda busy with Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6.

Bethesda's "tyranny" over the Fallout franchise is over. It died when they sold themselves to Microsoft. Maybe instead of ceaselessly bitching about them, you idiots can talk about who should replace them as the main developers for Fallout? That would actually be the productive thing to do. Especially since Microsoft does listen to the fans now and then. If the fans make the case for another developer to be given the task of making Fallout games, Microsoft might just listen and give them what they want.

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Horrigan's stats, like most NPC stats, are under the hood stuff that are only visible if you start poking around in files that don't appear as part of gameplay.

Bitching about them makes as much sense as complaining that the monorail in Broken Steel is actually a dude with a giant train for a head. "So unrealistic!"
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It just feels so lazy that they slapped perfect 10s across the board when the guy basically thinks with his fist. But hey, the game was rushed, I suppose they didn't have time to differentiate. They really needed to finish the game quickly, and rolling out perfect 10s stat-wise was all they could do.
 
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I'm still waiting for an answer to my main question. If you guys all think Bethesda is bad for Fallout, then who can do a better job? Which company or game dev can be better for Fallout? Because at this point, Microsoft might actually let someone else make another Fallout, especially with Bethesda busy with Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6.

Bethesda's "tyranny" over the Fallout franchise is over. It died when they sold themselves to Microsoft. Maybe instead of ceaselessly bitching about them, you idiots can talk about who should replace them as the main developers for Fallout? That would actually be the productive thing to do. Especially since Microsoft does listen to the fans now and then. If the fans make the case for another developer to be given the task of making Fallout games, Microsoft might just listen and give them what they want.


It just feels so lazy that they slapped perfect 10s across the board when the guy basically thinks with his fist. But hey, the game was rushed, I suppose they didn't have time to differentiate. They really needed to finish the game quickly, and rolling out perfect 10s stat-wise was all they could do.
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Some studio no one has ever heard of subcontracted by Activision Blizzard
 
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Again, I'm still waiting on an answer-what company or game developer today can do a better job?
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
Who can manage Fallout better than Bethesda? Because now that Fallout is Microsoft's property, they might actually let another company have a shot at making a Fallout game. You people keep whining about how bad Bethesda is for Fallout, and yet, you guys have no idea with who to replace them with?
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
If you guys all think Bethesda is bad for Fallout, then who can do a better job? Which company or game dev can be better for Fallout? Because at this point, Microsoft might actually let someone else make another Fallout, especially with Bethesda busy with Starfield and Elder Scrolls 6.
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Why is it the responsibility of the posters of this thread to determine this?
 
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Is everyone going to casually forget how in Fallout 2 my retarded Chosen One got spiked and raped by a drug-making child prodigy?
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I'm asking a serious question. Because now is the perfect time to look for a developer other than Bethesda. People pretty much universally think of them as bad for Fallout, so why not name other studios who can do better? Especially since Microsoft sometimes listens to fans, so if fans make enough of a stink about it, we might actually get a Fallout game that's *gasp* not made by Bethesda.
 
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I'm asking a serious question. Because now is the perfect time to look for a developer other than Bethesda. People pretty much universally think of them as bad for Fallout, so why not name other studios who can do better? Especially since Microsoft sometimes listens to fans, so if fans make enough of a stink about it, we might actually get a Fallout game that's *gasp* not made by Bethesda.
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Idfk InExile could do something in isometric perspective? Microsoft could always ensemble a star team for one fallout game with whatever talent they have lying around that worked on the games and make them a dedicated studio.
Realistically the 76 team will probably work on another fallout game or Microsoft goes to the most pandering route with Obsidian but they are quite busy with OW2, Pentiment, their honey I shrinked the kids Copyright violation and Avowed.
 
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Idfk InExile could do something in isometric perspective? Microsoft could always ensemble a star team for one fallout game with whatever talent they have lying around that worked on the games and make them a dedicated studio.
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There you go. Maybe Microsoft can pull a 343 Studios and bring in RPG talent dedicated to making Fallout games.
 
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Fallout 3 gets a bad rap, it's a solid game, but it's best treated as a soft reboot as tonally there are some inconsistencies, which I think is what bothered hardcore fans of the first 2 back in 2008.

But taken as it's own thing, it's good and better than 4 and 76 and of course leagues ahead of the absolute garbage of Brotherhood of Steel.

But it's New Vegas that is the one that is totally in continuity with the first 2, Bethesda's take on the franchise isn't worthless (problems with 4 and 76 aside), but it's also not really the real McCoy either.
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It helps to remember that 2 had a lot of problems too. There're a few Fallout fans even on sites like NMA that hate 2 for a lot of the same reasons some people hated 3, like the goofier tone, weird writing, and bugs. 2 did have some pretty fucking weird and tonally inconsistent bits in it, albeit less than 4 or 76. 1, 2, Tactics, 3, and NV are all good in their own right IMO, and I think 3's a lot more redeemable than a lot of oldgame fans think. 4 and 76 suck ass though, there's just nothing good about either of them (except 4's gunplay and graphics, besides NPC designs). And as great as NV is, it still needs mods to get the best out of it.
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God and I thought I was autistic about some series..... Imperator please just shut up and quit fixating on stupid arbitrary shit like a final boss being given perfect stats because he is the freaking final boss, you are embarrassing yourself.
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I think Imperator's genuinely, unironically autistic.
 
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It helps to remember that 2 had a lot of problems too. There're a few Fallout fans even on sites like NMA that hate 2 for a lot of the same reasons some people hated 3, like the goofier tone, weird writing, and bugs. 2 did had some pretty fucking weird and tonally inconsistent bits in it, albeit less than 4 or 76. 1, 2, Tactics, 3, and NV are all good in their own right IMO, and I think 3's a lot more redeemable than a lot of oldgame fans think. 4 and 76 suck ass though, there's just nothing good about either of them (except 4's gunplay and graphics, besides NPC designs). And as great as NV is, it still needs mods to get the best out of it.

I think Imperator's genuinely, unironically autistic.
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I like 3, it got me to go play 1 and 2. And TTW keeps 3 alive with all the improvements of NV's engine/mods. I just will never touch 76 because I don't want an MMO, I want the single player with mods and me being able to fuck around at will.
 
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