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Had to search a couple hours just to get Fallout 3 to work with Script Extender thank you Todd for the great update can't wait to break Fallout 4 soon as well
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Man, just play TTW.
Start in Capital Wasteland and never go into New Vegas.
S3y88
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What?
TTW is a megamod for new vegas, letting play fo3 with new vegas gameplay: survival skill, hardcore and such.
You have basically 2 games into one.
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It's Fallout 3 with iron sights and some other Fallout NV mechanics.
I played it a couple of years back and it seemed honestly more stable than actual Fallout 3
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Idk ED-E is pretty human like in its thoughts and actions for a security eye notDoubt, most the robots are not capable of anything beyond rudimentary duties, either as security (eye-bot, sentry bot, turrets ) where they are still limited strictly by their IFF and can be reprogrammed or basic manual labor ( mr. Handy ), the only instances of AIs that are capable of actual intelligence are ZAX and Skynet, both of them are supercomputers, and latter one is optionally uploaded into a robobrain, which technically makes him a cyborg, since his capabilities are tied directly to the quality of brain material provided.
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Not really. Caesar would more than likely allow them to retain their wealth, especially since he did discuss with the Courier his plans to create a synthesis between the Legion and the NCR. That, and these same rich folks could probably expand their enterprises to the east, without having to pay for protection, since the Legion already chased away all the raiders and the monsters. Traders from Arizona find good business with the Legion, and the corrupt senators and brahmin barons would probably do only what makes money for them. Spending all their resources to save the NCR isn't it. But taking advantage of the Legion protecting trade routes would be on the platter.
You do realize that's just the Courier bullshitting, right? The Legion soldiers are all in awe of Lanius and are too scared to fight against him. The only person with reservations towards him is Vulpes, but he dare not say it out loud for fear of getting beaten to death. Also, you have your history wrong. The Mongols were about to pancake the HRE when Ogodei Khan died and that led to them retreating.
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I mean, yeah, my thing is more about the writing than anything. Bastard Lone isn't a very good villain. Some games made a well written villain that was also fun to play and rewarding. I'm not claiming that being a thoroughly unreasonable, borderline insane villain categorically isn't fun. I'm just saying it doesn't make much sense to act that way.
It's telling that his ultimate mission is either "Assist on Dad's water purifier anyway, probably sulk and pout while doing it" or "Spike the water purifier with FEV that'll kill literally anyone who drinks water, including Lone."
I'm not saying being a piece of shit slaver isn't fun (In Minecraft) but I am saying that being a piece of shit slaver should probably have some better buildup than "Daddy left me and I am sad." Fuck, I dunno, maybe just some better outcomes. In the day you had stuff like Cole MacGrath being an all-powerful piece of shit, but Bastard Lone just kinda sucks as a villain.
I guess they just really weren't trying to implement a moral system with real impact outside of roleplay and fun purposes, which would be entirely on brand. Nothing like Red Dead 2 where you kinda wanna try to be good but it's really hard to do so. Everyone around you is such a fucking dick, and Arthur could just wreck their shit in a heartbeat. Might as well do so.
All three sides get a karma follower, Jericho's pretty good early on, Fawkes is crazy good in the end. RL-3 has a lot of issues but he can hang, mostly middle of the road. The world doesn't straight up reward you for being good outside of maybe a warm fuzzy feeling, either. Far as I remember at least. Turn on the water purifier and die, buddy. It Is YoUr DeStInY. No, you fucker, you go in there, you're a super mutant/ghoul/robot. You're gonna be okay. I'm not! Being self sacrificial is only a good thing to do when there is legitimately no other option.
Fawkes is great and he's a massive crutch if your build isn't amazing but to be honest Lone's such a fucking invincible manmode tank that you hardly need the guy. He IS nice to have. And the world doesn't go after you for being a bastard either, I mean sure, regulators, but that applies to positive karma as well with Talon Company, and Talon Company's even worse.
In general I felt the karma system had very little impact outside of "Get follower." I'm not against the game having it, even if it was very minimal impact. It was all the rage at the time. Much like it mostly did nothing for the game, it really also did no harm.
Fair. It's really the only reason. Cannibal in New Vegas, though, is pretty damn good with Dine and Dash. Human remains are light and a very respectable heal. Human enemies are plentiful and each of those is pretty much a full heal. Stuff's valuable in Hardcore. There's also Meat of Champions, even though that's kinda meh.
Then again, you know, Cannibal's a perk, morality I'm pretty sure was shoveled in because every game had a morality system, and Fallout 4 did away with it entirely.
Granted, it can be fun. Pretty much already responded to basically this so no need to reiterate. It's about why it would make sense in universe to act this way. Out of universe, yeah, it's fun. I go on rampages in GTA as well. As a player fucking up the game world is one of the most fun things. In that sense, it gives the player a lot of liberty to be a piece of shit.
Agree to disagree here. There's clear intent on the writer's part to present an adapted in-game character. Coop does drugs to boost his power, Maximus only really grasps the very basics of power armor because he's lacking the perk to wear it, Lucy talks about her tagged skills and goes around doing speech checks. They are also adapting some game mechanics, like criticals. Everyone's free to think what they like, though.
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Half the shit in evil playthroughs on most games don't make sense. They're just there for TEH LULZ.
Well, you can choose to be an evil son of a bitch and NOT poison the water. I mean, you do have that freedom.
But again, realistically, your character would fall sick and die from eating so much human flesh out in the wild, where there's probably even more contamination.
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Has anyone played the hoi4 fallout mod as NCR. How do I prevent the vote deadlock, I've tried this shit like 4 times. Am I retarded?
I spam all the options use all my money and political power, but every time the ai rigs the election at the last second causing it to deadlock and start the civil war chain.
I spam all the options use all my money and political power, but every time the ai rigs the election at the last second causing it to deadlock and start the civil war chain.
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Turning over the NCR to the Legion makes no sense moneywise. The Legion doesn't exactly present itself as a center of commerce. Do you also think it was logical for Vault Tec to nuke the world to increase their profit margins perchance? I also doubt Caesar's vision for Rome involves keeping a bunch of backstabbing and corrupt Junkers in power. Exactly how often in history has the nobility in a nation welcomed a barbarian invasion force into their lands?
Also you call it bullshitting, I call it historical precedence. I might have gotten the wrong Khan, but point was as soon as the leader is dead everyone will scramble back home to fight for the heartlands. It happened constantly during the Roman Empire for example. Lanius doesn't even want the NCR, that's Caesar. Who without the courier will be dead. With Caesar gone Lanius has no actual motivation to waste his legion fighting the NCR while people like Vulpes can seize power back home. Lanius only has the allegiance of his immediate legion, which he would squander trying to pacify the west.
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Never thought I'd see Fallout 3 get the Zelda cycle treatment.
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The issue with the NCR in New Vegas is pretty obvious. Who do they send to get to work for them? Some fucking trooper. Caesar sends one of his TOP GUYS and asked you to be his TOP GUY in New Vegas. The Legion actually is better at intel gathering, there is less politics in command. Everyone fighting understands why they want to take Vegas, there are resources and it’s a a tangible border for them with the Colorado.
The NCR butts heads. They can’t feign a united front even amongst people who’ve been serving in the region for a decade. The Legion can mostly depend on each other (I think Vulpes gets the fuck out of dodge if Lanius takes over). Crocker gets undermined by Moore. Hsu can’t do dick. Hanlon and the Rangers are effectively being hamstrung by Oliver, Kimbel, and others.
The NCR butts heads. They can’t feign a united front even amongst people who’ve been serving in the region for a decade. The Legion can mostly depend on each other (I think Vulpes gets the fuck out of dodge if Lanius takes over). Crocker gets undermined by Moore. Hsu can’t do dick. Hanlon and the Rangers are effectively being hamstrung by Oliver, Kimbel, and others.
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I think Caesar said it better than anybody.
"The NCR has all of the problems of the ancient Roman Republic - extreme bureaucracy, corruption, extensive senatorial infighting."
The NCR is weakened from within, they don't have long-term planning on any of the operations they do in the Mojave. Oliver and Kimball, only threw the money and wait for the problem to fix itself somehow. Many people like to think at them as the true saviors of the Mojave and there will live happily ever after, but with the extreme corruption they have in the higher ups, they'll only weak themselves over time. And the decent people in the NCR like Chief Hanlon, Hsu and Crocker will only get screwed again and again.
The fact that they were still fighting with all of those problems against people as ruthless as the Legion is a miracle.
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Pretty much. Some games worked it in a more impactful way, is all. I don't know if it would have been better for Fallout 3.
Bastard Lone swept his bangs off his eyes to look up from his slouch at Colonel Autumn. "Fuck you." He said coldly. Colonel Autumn was so shocked by Bastard Lone's badassitude that he left then and there. Bastard Lone look at Sarah and said "U look cute bby." They frenched. Hard and fast. Lone cracked his knuckles and smiled warmly at Sarah. "It's time for me to one up my loser dad." Taking one last look at his doggo Dogmeat, clad in his black doggo Breaking Benjamin T-shirt, he took a little break to tighten his black Converse shoelaces, so as to not trip and look like a fucking mong, he walked into the water Purifier. He took one cigarrete out of the pocket of his black leather vault jumpsuit and smoked it. His black nail polish was ruined because of all the badass fighting he had recently done.
He blasted his favorite song on his Pipboy, loud. I never told you what I do for a living by My Chemical Romance. Man, he was born in the wrong post-war century for sure. As he punched in the code for the purifier, he grinned happily. "Fuck you, dad." He muttered under his breath. "I'm better than you. Or whatever. Nothing really matters. But I am become the ubermensch. I lived for myself, free of rules."
Then he got 600 Karma for doing this instead of sending Sarah or a follower in and he immediately ceased to be Bastard Lone, mutating into Wonderbread Lone, or even just Jesus Lone straight up. When he woke up in Broken Steel he had to grind some more bad karma by shooting random wastelanders with his Junk Jet, which he used to fire skulls almost exclusively.
See, that's the thing, to be Evil your character has to not be self involved, selfish, lazy or whatever else could actually make a person evil: He's just gotta be consistently stupid. When a character's decisions consistently fuck over everyone involved including himself, you can't so much really call them evil. It's the classic Stupid Evil allignment.
To make matters worse, I'm pretty sure at this point he knows he's a wastelander so poisoning the water is just a really fucking weird and indirect way to kill yourself and take all of the Wasteland with you, which I suppose is on brand for how destructive and dumb Bastard Lone can be, but like, just, fuck. It is a natural stopping point to no longer be Nonsensical Bastard Lone at least.
I see the point, I personally chalk it up to stimpaks being black magic and Courier being a bullshit lobotomite super cyborg with a Sandevistan. Plus you know, acceptable breaks from reality. Getting radiation poisoned and slowly dying as your organs melt into slurry with nothing you can do about any of it wouldn't make for a great videogame
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Just accept that Fallout is dead and appreciate New Vegas, Fo1/2 for what they are.
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I'm currently in that stage. It feels good when you reach that point.
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It’s more the issue that competent people are effectively being punished in the NCR. There’s petty rivalries going on for no reason. Hanlon’s the only person who see’s the Legion as an existential threat on their borders that they haven’t secured. Hanlon’s choices in the game are awful, but he’s going off of fear. The NCR never has fought an enemy that wasn’t in decline or just jumped up gangs. The Legion does have manufacturing and recruits. They have tactics and adapt to the NCR faster than the NCR reacts to them.
The terror attacks the Legion carry out in-game typically aren’t just “you aren’t safe” attacks. They always undermine the NCR. The monorail ensures they can’t easily transport troops into the Strip for both presence and R&R. The Gas attack lets the New Vegas residents fell that the NCR is impotent. The Ranger Station attack and kidnapping is using rape as a threat and a weapon beyond slaughtering a bunch of rangers.