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legion gods winning?
i don't get it
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i don't get it
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sorry about that I meant to post that in a different thread I had two pages open
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Then have Spartan system - two rulers - and assign one leader to military affairs, one as the head of state. Otherwise if the legion keeps expanding and Caesar is always on the front lines, there is nobody to rule their territory. And it makes succession easier because it's unlikely that both leaders will die at the same time.
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He's even trying to use the Silenced .22 Pistol in a straight firefight
I'll give him credit that Bison Steve is kind of annoying low-level even in vanilla. The sentries guarding the door seem to have really high PER (which I guess makes sense) and there's no cover in the lobby.
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The hate I've gotten for saying the Enclave is my favorite faction brings me life. That being said, it's not much, I haven't seen people like Omega Initiative get much even when they make Enclave videos. And how many people are still making pro-Enclave, pro-Caesar, hell pro-Master supremacy shitposts and videos? Unless it's super recent or this trend is mostly on dicksword and plebbit I don't much of a trend.
Really must be plebbit because I've never heard of this.
I've never seen a good or even decent "Legion will fail" argument, ever. Bunch of dumb niggercattle who seeth at the mention of "Ave."
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I think they're mostly just formed from the "Le Legion is bad and therefore Legion sux goyz". I don't know if the Legion would be stable in its form we see in the game, but the Roman Empire lasted 400 years with the heart of the law hollowed out and essentially being a right makes right type system. So why couldn't the Legion be the same? At worst it would probably split up into separate empires like when the Mongol Empire split into several Khanates.
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I'd say it's more "muh slavery, muh sexist" than anything important. Like how undeveloped they are in-game, lore, even mods fail to flesh them out significantly.
I disagree with the law part, as for them splitting...maybe. I'd say at most it would be a civil wars with Legion loyalists needing to crush rebelling "nobles" (officers of significant power in this case), much like actual Rome. Eventually a new leader would come and since the Legion is quite big you can argue that not much turmoil would happen assuming they would have the foresight to have proper Consuls or Praetors to govern sections of the Legion. I repeat myself from a while ago but the Legion's extended lore is more speculation and "what-ifs" since if we only use what lore we actually have I can see why many believe they're doomed. I read somewhere that a good karma Courier could be the Augustus to the Legion's Caesar which would be sick
Image if the Legion did the reverse, from Empire to Republic, that would be very interesting.
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Unless the Courier saves his ass Caesar dies, either to the courier or of cancer, and unless there's a victory at Hoover Dam someone is going to wind up as the scapegoat, and Lucius, Lanius, and Vulpes are all going to start pointing fingers at each other... well, Lanius and Lucius will and then wonder where Vulpes ran off to.
Now, will the Legion fail instantly? No, but unlike Rome after Caesar it doesn't have nearly the same institutional inertia. Caesar was little more than a wandering tribal warlord, refusing to settle down in a city and actually build a nation until he could claim the more civilized west for himself. Most likely scenario is a triumvirate split between Lanius, Lucius, and Vulpes, paranoid about each other and the NCR crossing the Colorado to finish the job, which, assuming the NCR didn't fall apart under its own weight, is coming sooner or late simply because the Legion is a continued threat no matter what form it takes.
In my hypothetical triumvirate Lucius does exactly that. I figure being Caesar's chief praetorian Caesar would like to talk to him just so he could hear his own voice while also blessing this violent brute of a man with some wisdom he so clearly lacks, and so he winds up drawing the complete opposite conclusions Caesar intended from his own misinterpreted Hegelian ideals and decides that the Legion must become more like the NCR.
"Well uh, if thesis and antithesis fight and uh a new synth-i-sis thing is formed and uh the strong are destined to prevail over the weak then uh... I guess we lost because we were weak and the NCR won because it is strong, and so if we wish to be strong we need to be more like the NCR."
Which of course is the correct conclusion, but Caesar would be tearing his own non-existent hair out to hear Lucius put two and two together like that.
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it doesn't matter much if you're not phone posting, you can wait it out. Having said that i have noticed i barely see threads i want to look at anymore and most of them are those "get here before its gone!" porn threads,
you're supposed to come in through the back through the roller coaster doorway. the game all but forces that. then you go through the side door down and have cover in multiple different ways. using the door at the bottom of the stairs to block gunfire, the open spaces really don't give you cover but you can usually kill a fuck load through a combination of shooting and closing the door and waiting for them to come over. also ED-E, if you want to be a real loser about itHe's even trying to use the Silenced .22 Pistol in a straight firefight
I'll give him credit that Bison Steve is kind of annoying low-level even in vanilla. The sentries guarding the door seem to have really high PER (which I guess makes sense) and there's no cover in the lobby.
also if you crouch down before going through the front you will be caught but you can get a lot closer and at least kill one of the enemies with a sneak attack crit, but yeah the way its blocked up front its basically impossible if you have any damage mods, because you have a half dozen guys who will enter the fire fight at least one with the flame thrower and then i think its the 3rd or 4th guy usually is chucking grenades or other explosives at you. but overall its meant to be impossible to attack through the front.
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Huh. All these years I just facetanked the front entrance. Guess that makes me the tard alongside the YouTuber
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Depends.Huh. All these years I just facetanked the front entrance. Guess that makes me the tard alongside the YouTuber
I done the same shit (in Very Hard) but being aggressive and taking the back door before the mob with the Incinerator.
Is how you plan things. The Youtuber is a waste of air if he does both facetanking and using the silenced pistol (which is for sneak attacks).
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I think most of us are, I've never met anyone who used the back entrance, even people who played this game for a decade now.
I read this whole thing but my brain just focuses on this bit because of that fucking meme:
But yeah, I will have to agree partly with what you're saying, Caesar and the Legion's fate is riding on the Courier saving his ass, sadly a lot of what could happen is like I said, speculation. You can make a like of educated, well thought out guesses like you did but sadly we can't know for certain. I want to commend you for your response however and I will be bookmarking that for later.
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the best side and choice
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All major New Vegas factions share this predicament. They are desperate and at the end of the line and needing rescue. The Legion is spread too thin and Caesar is near death. Mr. House has three groups pounding down his door to take over his entire operation. And two of those groups are already inside The Strip with tons of power. The NCR is also spread too thin across the Mojave and have overly committed too many resources in a scattered way. And their ranks are filled with drunks and corrupt officials.
This is why each faction is so willing to take on assistance from a random courier. Because they are all on the verge of collapse and are nearly hopeless. All of the major factions are vulnerable to the point of extinction. The Khans storyline is literally a preview of this. The tribe vanishing and losing its identity. And all of the major factions have parts in it. With Caesar enslaving and absorbing various tribes. The NCR massacring them. And House and the Strip groups taking tribal units and converting them to casino managers.
This post apocalyptic war society has made congruent leadership positions impossible to establish and maintain. They want the old world style ruling class for a society that is incompatible with that type of governance. Caesar, House, and Kimball all have visions of the future clouded by the past. They want to rule a United States that doesn't exist anymore. And probably never will exist again based on how post war humanity behaves.
This is New Vegas across all factions. In this post war world being a ruler means that you peak at a town or city. Not a country or continent. And that supply lines, communication, and infrastructure have knocked down progress by millennia. To the point where just holding a few towns or cities under one banner is next to unimaginable. Your empire might span a few towns forever. But the entire western coastline of America will swallow your dreams of a national empire in a few generations at best.
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I've noticed that Fallout: Nuevo Mexico released(or made public again, can't tell) some new videos. If you recall, their channel has gone offline and all official accounts wiped not too long ago, probably due to internal issues. Well, this seems to indicate that we're back in business, so to speak, altho not all the videos are still there. This could mean a new direction for the mod, as I said pages ago, some tracks that didn't make it to Fallout London were deleted off their channel, altho thanks to yours truly uploading them here only one of these tracks is currently lost media. This could be a similar deal with Nuevo Mexico, where that content is not in the mod anymore.
Anywyways, here is the new videos, released around 2 months ago:
Several shorts, it looks like they're about the various companions you will have
Lastly, there is a few interesting videos in one of their playlists that aren't theirs, seems to be press coverage of the mod. I will link these here as well, just in case.
I should point out that there are quite a few privated videos, seemingly confirming what I said about removing content that they don't like or isn't in the game anymore from being seen. I hate when studios do this shit, makes preservation and cut content research a pain in the ass.
Anywyways, here is the new videos, released around 2 months ago:
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I have many doubts, but I'm still interested in it to a degree. If they can shit out something even half decent...well whatever happens it can't be worse than The Frontier. What happened with Nuevo Mexico again that caused them to private shit and be put on a hiatus?
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Nobody knows, probably a tranny that flipped it's lid and tried shutting the whole project down because it wasn't getting enough validation, or found that the leads were "transphobic" or whatever.
Frankly, I'm more interested in the ties to Van Buren, which I don't know if are in the plans or not. The project has been already rebooted at least once, I'm not sure if the recent events mean it was rebooted yet again.
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This is probably useful to know but it comes off as "REEEEEEEEEE DON'T USE THINGS I DON'T USE!"