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God damn it, every time with these people. They make someone makes an alternate platform to host content that fags and trannies ban and they can't even keep it up and updated...
THE GODDAMN LEGION ARE BACK I GUESS. I doubt that's Caesar in the second picture but holy shit it's actually the legion.
INB4 they add nothing to the Legion and instead lean heavily into them being CHUDs.
 
They will character assassinate House 100% to prop up their gay coal burning donut steel, and I will continue to ignore the show's existence as every single Fallout fan should. Especially New Vegas fan. They will probably turn House into a dumb Musk allegory, with what the first season has shown us this would be right on the money. Also, Ceasar is literally hitler, even tho canonically he should be dead unless Legion ending is canon, but you know how the TV show treats that(as does a lot of the nu-fanbase).
 
They will character assassinate House 100% to prop up their gay coal burning donut steel, and I will continue to ignore the show's existence as every single Fallout fan should. Especially New Vegas fan. They will probably turn House into a dumb Musk allegory, with what the first season has shown us this would be right on the money. Also, Ceasar is literally hitler, even tho canonically he should be dead unless Legion ending is canon, but you know how the TV show treats that(as does a lot of the nu-fanbase).
The fact that the Brotherhood is getting more screen time than the NCR in the Mojave is already a massive red flag, they really are going to butcher all of the west coast's pre established lore and make the Brotherhood the top dog faction just like in the Bethesda East Coast games ( which makes no fucking sense ).
 
The fact that the Brotherhood is getting more screen time than the NCR in the Mojave is already a massive red flag, they really are going to butcher all of the west coast's pre established lore and make the Brotherhood the top dog faction just like in the Bethesda East Coast games ( which makes no fucking sense ).
None of it makes any sense, but as it was already established earlier in the thread, trying to make the world cohesive is gay and cringe because it hurts people's feelings or something, I dunno. You get what you tolerate.
BTW that Cesar comment was a joke, it's probably just the new Legate. I know some people here are dense so I thought I should just point that out. Pretty gay that Legion is still around at all, but you got to milk those memberberries somehow!
 
I also think that the more vibrant colors you see in Fallout 4 was an over-correction on the blatant green tint usage in 3, and to shy away from the idea that "brown is realistic and gritty" which people were clowning on other games for. For what it's worth, it did succeed at avoiding those particular criticisms but then created the problem that it looks too much like buildings have a fresh coat of paint despite rust and age. There's probably a middle ground but 4 overshot and ended up harming the post-apocalyptic tone with a far too colorful palette.
Despite using the same assets and engine, Fallout 76 has a weird tint to it that makes everything shiny and grey as if the game had an ENB mod installed. It's so weird.
 
I always figured 4s art direction was more googie architecture while the older entries were varying scales of art deco and streamline moderne.

Even then, 1 and 2 show very little due to the perspective and the interior design of the glow, vaults, and Mariposa feel more akin to black mesa style military industrial complex utility design than the Jetsons
It could have very well been a regional thing, and to make it more distinct-looking. DC has a super distinct look irl so they may have wanted to intentionally stray from that. I would say that I think they should have drawn from local aesthetics more, maybe like that eyesore city hall.
 
None of it makes any sense, but as it was already established earlier in the thread, trying to make the world cohesive is gay and cringe because it hurts people's feelings or something, I dunno. You get what you tolerate.
BTW that Cesar comment was a joke, it's probably just the new Legate. I know some people here are dense so I thought I should just point that out. Pretty gay that Legion is still around at all, but you got to milk those memberberries somehow!
As far as the Legion goes it makes perfect sense that such a large faction would still be around after the events of New Vegas.

Just because Caesar is dead doesn't mean that the Legion would immediately collapse overnight.

The entire "Legion would collapse without Caesar" argument is just propaganda spread by people that already have a pre-existing bias against the Legion ( Joshua, Arcade, Marcus, Mr House etc ), it's absolutely possible that a new Legate could keep the nation together with good enough leadership skills.
 

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The power armor helmet having a visor faceplate is so retarded I'm convinced the people working on the show used AI to design everything
That's exactly what I thought. The original designs for T60/T45 are probably riveted at that part of the helmet, but I am too lazy too look. Either way, nobody will complain because this isn't aimed at the actual fans of the franchise. Tourists will probably love it because oh boy, I hecking love Iron Man! Bethesda might even make it canon in Fallout 5, even tho the game itself won't be canon, but I digress.
As far as the Legion goes it makes perfect sense that such a large faction would still be around after the events of New Vegas.

Just because Ceaser is dead doesn't mean that the Legion would immediately collapse overnight.

The entire "Legion would collapse without Ceaser" argument is just propaganda spread by people that already have a pre-existing bias against the Legion ( Joshua, Arcade, Marcus, Mr House etc ), it's absolutely possible that a new Legate could keep the nation together with good enough leadership skills.
Of course The Legion wouldn't collapse from a single battle, question is why the fuck would you stick around with whatever men you have after a defeat so bad? For a third asskicking? And those were veterans that were wasted at the second battle, who the fuck do they even have left, the green recruits? Also, most players will raise the bomber from the lake, so they also have a literal flying fortress that drops bombs to worry about, which they don't seem to have a counter for(they barely have one artillery gun in the base game and even then it doesn't work unless you fix it). Those bombers fly too high to be taken out by Missile Launchers, so what's the plan here? At least Broken Steel had an entire quest dedicated to trying to counter Vertibirds after Brotherhood's main way of destroying them, Liberty Prime, was blown up. We're reaching the point where Fallout 3 is going to be better written than the TV show, it truly is the end of the world. Fallout POS is probably going to be better written too and that game is literally just Fallout for teenagers, metal music and big boob raider boss BDSM dominatrix and potty humor and all that.
 
As far as the Legion goes it makes perfect sense that such a large faction would still be around after the events of New Vegas.

Just because Ceaser is dead doesn't mean that the Legion would immediately collapse overnight.

The entire "Legion would collapse without Ceaser" argument is just propaganda spread by people that already have a pre-existing bias against the Legion ( Joshua, Arcade, Marcus, Mr House etc ), it's absolutely possible that a new Legate could keep the nation together with good enough leadership skills.
*Caesar
 
When is the show set again, I vaguely remember it to be around 20 years after FO4?
With Victor kicking about, I assume House is still around? Maybe a House Always Wins ending with no assault on Fortification Hill?
 
The T-51 had the same whole head covering helmet that we're all so familiar with, so that helmet is an affront against God.

I'm fine with the Legion being around still. It's a big organization. It's a fucking country. The idea that there isn't another charismatic leader is the kind of shit that people who think if you assassinate Hitler all of the problems with WW2 go away.
Lucy getting captured by the Legion should result in her being passed around as a fuck toy before being shipped back East to the towns and villages to act as a brood mare for some high ranking Legion official.

See, he supposedly built the Legion off of Rome, and that's more than the Army. That means local governments (which IIRC he left mostly intact) are still there. They weren't all of the six guys who charge across the Dam. That implies a functioning nation-state.

Victor being there is interesting.

Dipshit diversity hire is wearing a fleece lined jacket. In the desert.

And they need to stop making the Mojave Desert look like the fucking Sahara. Goddamn that annoys me.

I probably won't watch it because it's not my thing. Quirky female character, diversity hire retarded male, ignores everything so the writers can tell their story.

Oh well. Back to playing.

I also think that the more vibrant colors you see in Fallout 4 was an over-correction on the blatant green tint usage in 3, and to shy away from the idea that "brown is realistic and gritty" which people were clowning on other games for. For what it's worth, it did succeed at avoiding those particular criticisms but then created the problem that it looks too much like buildings have a fresh coat of paint despite rust and age. There's probably a middle ground but 4 overshot and ended up harming the post-apocalyptic tone with a far too colorful palette.
IIRC wasn't ORGINALLY FO4 supposed to be set only a few decades after the bombs fell? I remember hearing something like that off and on.

I get it that enamel paint can keep its color for a long time, but everything facing the nuclear detonation should be bleached white.

I just wish that people would clean up their front yard after 200 years instead of waiting for me to come along and do it.
 
The T-51 had the same whole head covering helmet that we're all so familiar with, so that helmet is an affront against God.
On closer look, it's not even T-51 it's some mix of T-60 and T-51. I saw some complaints that season one made Power Armor a bit too Iron Man-y which I thought was a pretty weak point, but this is 100% Iron Man shit now,
 
See, he supposedly built the Legion off of Rome, and that's more than the Army. That means local governments (which IIRC he left mostly intact) are still there. They weren't all of the six guys who charge across the Dam. That implies a functioning nation-state.
Yeah, but the Legion-controlled towns aren't part of the Legion proper. Unlike Rome which drew its recruits from the people they protected and fought for so the whole thing was part of a connected whole the Legion is completely independent of their subjects save the occasional demand for tribute. The binding civitas that Rome had simply doesn't exist. The Legion is a giant wandering nomadic tribal warband, not a proper army of the people. The cities have no loyalty to the Legion save what it earned killing the local raider tribes, and the Legion likewise has no ties to the towns it rules over. Its an incredibly fragile relationship and if the Legion's strength ever wanes or the strength of the cities grows internal conflict between the two is inevitable.
 
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Yeah, but the Legion-controlled towns aren't part of the Legion proper. Unlike Rome which drew its recruits from the people they protected and fought for so the whole thing was part of a connected whole the Legion is completely independent of their subjects save the occasional demand for tribute. The binding civitas that Rome had simply doesn't exist. The Legion is a giant wandering nomadic tribal warband, not a proper army of the people. The cities have no loyalty to the Legion save what it earned killing the local raider tribes, and the Legion likewise has no ties to the towns it rules over. Its an incredibly fragile relationship and if the Legion's strength ever wanes or the strength of the cities grows internal conflict between the two is inevitable.
The Caesar was a retard and deserves to have his LARP nation fall apart.

Goddamn. It's been a few months and even then I just use Legion for target practice because they suck, but still...

I can't wait for Fallout 5 where the villain doesn't even explain his plan, just runs around with a glowing neon sign that says "ORANGE MAN BAD" over him.
 
The Caesar was a retard and deserves to have his LARP nation fall apart.

Goddamn. It's been a few months and even then I just use Legion for target practice because they suck, but still...

I can't wait for Fallout 5 where the villain doesn't even explain his plan, just runs around with a glowing neon sign that says "ORANGE MAN BAD" over him.
Caesar's problem is that he's a giant egotist and instead of settling down and turning Arizona into a New Rome rebuilt in his image he needs to make like the Caesar he took his name from did and go cross a river and conquer the civilized places. He doesn't give two shits about the places he currently rules over save what they provide in tribute and slaves, but is instead obsessed about taking over Nevada and California and washing away their corrupt governments in a river of their own blood.
 
My reaction to that season 2 teaser:
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I hope the line in the trailer was just a misdirect.

I really don't care about the show, nor does it have to be accepted as canon, but the prospect that Mr House might end up being behind the end of the world pissed me off a little. Way to take a giant shit over one of the best characters in vidya.

Billionaire-ego induced craziness into "King of the ashes" to handwave away retardation is such shitty writing. I feel like I've seen it enough times that it's even more cliché than a "secret cabal of elites orchestrating the end of the world" that we saw in the first season.
 
Caesar's problem is that he's a giant egotist and instead of settling down and turning Arizona into a New Rome rebuilt in his image he needs to make like the Caesar he took his name from did and go cross a river and conquer the civilized places. He doesn't give two shits about the places he currently rules over save what they provide in tribute and slaves, but is instead obsessed about taking over Nevada and California and washing away their corrupt governments in a river of their own blood.
Caesar's plan/intent, from what I recall, was arguably a bit more batshit or high-concept but I could be misremembering. It explains why he doesn't care about administrating conquered territory effectively because he's of the view that once the NCR is conquered, his Legion and the fallen NCR would synthesise into an optimal system that was greater than the sum of its parts; I don't know whether this would occur when he's still alive or after he's dead, but he cites how absorbing the different tribes into his Legion usually leads to something or other getting absorbed, and whatever they gain from the NCR will change the Legion for the better.

From a meta POV, there might be a reason why it's called "The Legion" and not "Rome 2" or something similar. It isn't a nation, not really, it's an army first and foremost. Everything is done to facilitate and supply this army as cheaply and as efficiently as possible, because Caesar's sole objective is to conquer the NCR, because thereafter the perfect nation to rule the wastes will come out of it.

It also could be my interpretation that I'm pulling from my ass or straight from Caesar's mouth, but I think he created the Legion intentionally in the NCR's image, because the end result of their combination would have the strengths of both with none of the weaknesses.

His huge ego meanwhile might've contributed to this lofty objective, or the objective is what caused the ego, but like House, the NCR, or the player, he believes achieving his goal is ultimately what's best for everyone in Vegas whether they agree or not. Something something War never changes.

Sorry for the double post
 
Caesar's plan/intent, from what I recall, was arguably a bit more batshit or high-concept but I could be misremembering. It explains why he doesn't care about administrating conquered territory effectively because he's of the view that once the NCR is conquered, his Legion and the fallen NCR would synthesise into an optimal system that was greater than the sum of its parts; I don't know whether this would occur when he's still alive or after he's dead, but he cites how absorbing the different tribes into his Legion usually leads to something or other getting absorbed, and whatever they gain from the NCR will change the Legion for the better.

From a meta POV, there might be a reason why it's called "The Legion" and not "Rome 2" or something similar. It isn't a nation, not really, it's an army first and foremost. Everything is done to facilitate and supply this army as cheaply and as efficiently as possible, because Caesar's sole objective is to conquer the NCR, because thereafter the perfect nation to rule the wastes will come out of it.

It also could be my interpretation that I'm pulling from my ass or straight from Caesar's mouth, but I think he created the Legion intentionally in the NCR's image, because the end result of their combination would have the strengths of both with none of the weaknesses.

His huge ego meanwhile might've contributed to this lofty objective, or the objective is what caused the ego, but like House, the NCR, or the player, he believes achieving his goal is ultimately what's best for everyone in Vegas whether they agree or not. Something something War never changes.

Sorry for the double post
Yes, that's basically it. The Legion's fragility is a feature not a bug, because he does intend to set up a new Rome complete with an army dedicated to the nation-state as a whole and not just its personal loyalties to its leader as their warlord. He just wants to do that in California and not Arizona.
 
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