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IIRC wasn't ORGINALLY FO4 supposed to be set only a few decades after the bombs fell? I remember hearing something like that off and on.
That was Fallout 3, and yes they did want to have the game take place right after the bombs(like in 76) but Todd wanted BoS and Enclave at the last minute so they changed the setting to take place 200 years later, they didn't actually change anything about the world they already build, but again most nu-fans(or bethesda fans for that matter) don't care so why should they have?
On closer look, it's not even T-51 it's some mix of T-60 and T-51. I saw some complaints that season one made Power Armor a bit too Iron Man-y which I thought was a pretty weak point, but this is 100% Iron Man shit now,
Again, you get what you tolerate. I complained about it when S1 had that stupid jetpack comedy segment, but nobody listens to me. Hope there is a snarky british AI talking to the main leads at this point, just for shits and giggles, the dumb cattle that watches this shit will still eat it up anyways.
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@>IMPLYING They already explained that Vault-Tec bombed the word, not China. They did it to make money. From a nuclear wasteland with no functioning economy. Because Capitalism bad. If anything, they will make House retarded because he knew about the bombs(never mind he straight up tells the player he predicted the war mathematically, and he has no reason to lie to them nor would his ego allow that) but didn't do anything to save the world knowing that because he's a kooky Elon Musk stand-in with nothing connecting him to his in-game counterpart. Way to completely ruin his motivation from the base game, if he was in on the plan why the fuck didn't he just net himself one of those private Vaults or put his brain in a robot jar? The main motivation for designing his own life-sustaining technology was because HE DIDN'T KNOW THAT ANYONE ELSE MADE ANYTHING LIKE THAT AT THE TIME. Or how about warning the world that this was going to happen? He was still famous and well liked back then, if Vault-Tec was really going to destroy the world, this would at least raise some eyebrows. Just look what happened to the soldiers guarding Mariposa, they were so disgusted at the US government that they quite literally defected from the government, killed every scientist there and formed The Brotherhood of Steel after the war broke out. You really think nobody would listen to one of the captains of the industry if he leaked that info, or that nobody would investigate Vault-Tec, even with all their power? The show is just creating more plot holes in real time, and somehow I think what they will actually do with his character will be even more retarded than what I am describing.
 
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They already explained that Vault-Tec bombed the word, not China.
I saw people out in the wild cope about this detail i.e. "That's what they say they're gonna do, but it doesn't mean that's how it actually panned out!"

I wonder if they saw the complaints about that detail and so changed it to tether it more to the games, and they somehow landed on making Mr House the lynchpin behind the end of the world purely because he was a character from the series and he happened to be at that fucking awful meeting. It doesn't bear repeating because it's been said enough, but still, it cannot be overstated how fucking retarded the idea of ending the world for "profit" is. You have to have a completely botched understanding of human beings to thing passing over a certain threshold of money just suddenly turned you retarded, insane, or just nonsensically evil.

"There's a lot of earning potential with the end of the world." Nigga, what earnings? And why does it matter if the end never comes, you made your bag, and what's more, you actually get to keep spending it! World ends? There's no consumers left to buy your non-existent shit! Production of goods and consumption of them would fall through the floor, assuming there's any means to produce left. I said in the post you replied to but the whole "king of the ashes" thing mostly applies to those with nothing, who end up destroying everything for a morsel of something. Most recent prominent example of such a character is Little Finger from Game of Thrones, though there's probably better examples. You wouldn't willingly or actively foster losing everything you have just for what amounts to being a superficial despot over actual shit, and characters who destroy a lot to preserve little is usually because they only find value in that thing. It'd make more sense for a parent to bring about nuclear annihilation to save their family, than for a billionaire to do to wind up with less than what they had before. Even faggots IRL like Theil are just larping.

You can have that shadowy meeting of billionaires discussing the end of the world without it being retarded whilst still giving them an air of evil if absolutely necessary. In-lore I'm pretty sure everyone was being contracted by the US for some reason or other, so discussion between execs to not step on toes might've occurred, and eventually fearmongering and the war itself proved extremely lucrative for the companies so it was in their interests to prolong it and feed the public the desired sentiment to keep support for the war high. The meeting should've had a few voices of concern (House, Sinclair), just to give nuance to the fact they were at the precipice of bombs being dropped and it doesn't look like they'll be able to stop it; I use those two specifically because they both built/prepared for the end, and did so with the means to save others besides just themselves, but I digress.

If I wrote the show but had to keep the beats, you could have that scene of the elites being selfish without shitting on House.
1. House predicts almost to the very hour when the bombs would drop (like he did in-game). He shares this info with the rest of the billionaire class so they can prepare accordingly. House can't personally save America but maybe through their combined efforts they might be able to save enough pockets of America so there's a world worth waking up to when the radiation clears. (In-line with his character IMO for the most part) He might get jeered or demurred by the others.
2. The needle drop scene to replace the old one is that Vault-Tek is already aware of when the bombs will drop, because they've been told when it'll happen by the US gov themselves. House just made a prediction, but Vault-Tek were made privy to when the first nuke will get dropped by the USA, so they have a deadline. China drops theirs first though and early, making this knowledge useless in the game's context and House's prediction but still - needle drop for Goggin's character so we can more or less get the same exact scene in the show.
3. The meeting ends there so we don't see how the rest of the gathered react, and it doesn't matter anyway because it's retarded and only serves the purpose of making Goggins pissed off and disillusioned. Vault-Tek bad for being privy to this and not doing anything to stop it or spread awareness, billionaires also bad for doing the same thing. House still mentions his prediction in-game in this context because he was more correct than Vault-Tek and the US government, which strokes his ego.

The meeting is now moreso focused on the fact Vault-Tek knew the bombs would eventually get dropped and so were both preparing accordingly, all the while hoping to squeeze as much from everybody as they possibly could before sleeping through the worst of it or something, dangling the carrot of hope over a doomed population with the Vaults and receiving some assurances that the wealth they make in the here and now will still be retained once it's safe to re-surface.

I hate Communists so fucking much, man, it's unreal.

What's fucked is that the Enclave already exists as this cartoonishly evil big bad, and is even depicted as such in-show, so you can blame them for everything instead of the cliche "rich-man bad-man" that's been done a billion times before. If you wanted to be subversive, it's actually easier to make a scenario where Vault-Tek are the secret good guys (does require glazing Mr House more though); they do this by abusing government contracts to build as many vaults as humanly possible, often for absolutely retarded premises and experiments as forwarded to the government. Because they were operating off of House's prediction and beholden to the Enclave's orders, the directives meant to be sent out from Vault 0 or Vault 1 overriding the Overseer directives to conduct these experiments was never sent, so the experiments went ahead anyway as planned. It had to be done at the exact right moment or else the US GOV/Enclave would've sent out a conflicting order preventing the vaults from actually sealing, killing everyone inside.

There, I've now written a piece of media that subverts expectations because the billionaire companies you would expect to be evil were actually intent on saving lives, but their attempt was tragically aborted by a slight miscalculation.

R.I.P Mr House.
Butchered by Bezos; cannibalised by commies.
2010 - 2025
 
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I saw people out in the wild cope about this detail i.e. "That's what they say they're gonna do, but it doesn't mean that's how it actually panned out!"
Well, now you know how it feels trying to explain lore to the retarded tourists, only for them to piss their pants and declare themselves victorious in their ignorance, anyways.
Nobody is going to care, your average Fallout fanboy these days is clueless and whoever watches this show even more so. All the New Vegas fanboys are about to see what it felt like when Fallout 3 came out and the console peasants that never played a real RPG once in their lives defiled the fanbase forever while Bethesda stained the IP's good name with their stupidity.
 
Nice to see the thread more active with the release of that trailer. Would be more tired if I gave a shit about new Fallout stuff but the constant puppeteering of its corpse and bastardization of its contents is still sad to see.
 
I saw people out in the wild cope about this detail i.e. "That's what they say they're gonna do, but it doesn't mean that's how it actually panned out!"
It's a common cope when it comes to controversial retcons, with people (usually the media literacy crowd) blatantly ignoring everything about how a scene is set up and presented to say "They never 100% directly look into the camera and spell out that this is what they're doing, so it's not a retcon. Even if it is, there's still time to backpedal reveal that it's something completely different." or will use this to say that it can't be a retcon because the source material never 100% confirmed it either.

Like I remember the most blatant example being the end of Secret Invasion (for all five people that watched it) where they reveal that a major character (Rhodey/Warmachine) has been replaced with a Skrull since Civil War. Naturally, fans kind of didn't like how this basically invalidated some important/emotional beats with Rhodey now knowing that it wasn't really him (as well as making for a big plot hole with the Skrulls' cause in the show), but people tried to defend it by saying that the show never directly stated when Rhodey was replaced.

Despite the entire scene very clearly being set up in a way to make the audience ask what narratively significant period Rhodey could have been abducted during, and drawing the audience's attention to the fact that his injuries are back and that he's in a hospital gown and that there's only one other time we've seen Rhodey at the hospital; none of it matters because it was never directly stated when he was taken. They were totally bringing up all these questions just to answer that he was taken at a time that wasn't important at all. Just ignore that the director came out to directly confirm that Rhodey being taken during civil war is exactly what they were implying.
 
but didn't do anything to save the world knowing that because he's a kooky Elon Musk stand-in with nothing connecting him to his in-game counterpart.
He kind of already was one in New Vegas. The man was obsessed with snow globes as that visualized how he wanted a controlled world. He either had real or virtual sex with several of his female-coded securitrons. He has an autistic plan of setting up colonies on other planets, and that he will still be around for it. The man even forces all his securitrons to print out mournful eulogies in the event that he dies.

The big difference is that House is competent in his business dealings and makes workable products.
 
He doesn't like the show.
I don't know how anyone that aspires to be seen as a human being can like the show.

Even putting aside all the lore rape that only autistic wastes of oxygen like me would give a fuck about, the show itself is bad on a fundamental level, and just proof that the competency crisis in Hollywood has spread from the writing room into every other trade involved in the creation of movies and TV series.

The ghoul actor pretty much carries the whole thing on his back, but then again he could have done so for any show he was involved in.
 
It's a common cope when it comes to controversial retcons, with people (usually the media literacy crowd) blatantly ignoring everything about how a scene is set up and presented to say "They never 100% directly look into the camera and spell out that this is what they're doing, so it's not a retcon. Even if it is, there's still time to backpedal reveal that it's something completely different." or will use this to say that it can't be a retcon because the source material never 100% confirmed it either.

Like I remember the most blatant example being the end of Secret Invasion (for all five people that watched it) where they reveal that a major character (Rhodey/Warmachine) has been replaced with a Skrull since Civil War. Naturally, fans kind of didn't like how this basically invalidated some important/emotional beats with Rhodey now knowing that it wasn't really him (as well as making for a big plot hole with the Skrulls' cause in the show), but people tried to defend it by saying that the show never directly stated when Rhodey was replaced.

Despite the entire scene very clearly being set up in a way to make the audience ask what narratively significant period Rhodey could have been abducted during, and drawing the audience's attention to the fact that his injuries are back and that he's in a hospital gown and that there's only one other time we've seen Rhodey at the hospital; none of it matters because it was never directly stated when he was taken. They were totally bringing up all these questions just to answer that he was taken at a time that wasn't important at all. Just ignore that the director came out to directly confirm that Rhodey being taken during civil war is exactly what they were implying.
Fallout is a franchise where the dumbfuck nu-fans tried to correct Tim Cain, THE CREATOR OF FALLOUT that the main thesis of the games was "capitalism bad" when he came out and said the games were never political. They banned him, Tim fucking Cain, from the official Fallout subreddit and claimed "death of the author", ie they know better than the person without whom the franchise wouldn't even exist. These are the same retards who will try and argue that Megaton not having any food makes perfect sense because the franchise never made sense, when that couldn't be further from the truth, and soon the same people who will claim that House was always evil and behind the bombs because the TV show said so and what New Vegas shows doesn't matter. This fanbase gets exactly what it deserves, this is why it's best to just write everything past a certain point(New Vegas/4) as non-canon, period and ignore the new fanbase.
He kind of already was one in New Vegas. The man was obsessed with snow globes as that visualized how he wanted a controlled world. He either had real or virtual sex with several of his female-coded securitrons. He has an autistic plan of setting up colonies on other planets, and that he will still be around for it. The man even forces all his securitrons to print out mournful eulogies in the event that he dies.

The big difference is that House is competent in his business dealings and makes workable products.
You do realize House was based off Howard Hughes, who behaved just like this towards the end of his life, right? Obsidian just made him be obsessed with robots and space instead of airplanes. See, this shit is what I am talking about, trying to re-write history to make the new retarded retcons make sense.

The ghoul actor pretty much carries the whole thing on his back, but then again he could have done so for any show he was involved in.
Like hell he does, he's someone's edgy OC and it really shows. Any cool factor he might have had goes away with the material he has been given. Or when you remember that he has to take a fucking "anti-ghoul serum" on regular bases, like why is nobody talking about this shit more? If the TV show is suppose to be canon, do you have any idea how big the implications here are that every ghoul turns feral if they don't get this one specific dose of medicine regularly injected into them?
You know what, never mind, just have this video explain it instead.
 
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I don't know how anyone that aspires to be seen as a human being can like the show.

Even putting aside all the lore rape that only autistic wastes of oxygen like me would give a fuck about, the show itself is bad on a fundamental level, and just proof that the competency crisis in Hollywood has spread from the writing room into every other trade involved in the creation of movies and TV series.

The ghoul actor pretty much carries the whole thing on his back, but then again he could have done so for any show he was involved in.
The show has MASSIVE problems even if it existed on its own.

For one thing, just the finger re-attachment scene was hideous. Then the "Ghoul Potions" are fucking stupid. Whose making them? Where? How much are they? Why haven't the ghouls secured their own supply line? Who is growing the food for all these chucklefucks? If the armor had that defect in Alaska, which the ghoul was able to capitalize on in the final Season 1 episode, why was more produced and stockpiled? Why was there no "T-45A1 w/ Liner" like you see with military equipment? Why wasn't that problem discovered in the wasteland if the chinks found it so easily? Why are they able to walk across huge distances in minutes? Why did the ghoul not go crazy from sensory deprivation after being buried after all that time?

Not to mention the full on "Communism Good" messaging, the hilariously bad board meeting between autists, the "This vault has superior genes!" with a Shlomo who looks like he crawled out a Whytte Mann cartoon, and just so much else.

I had a friend watch during the party that new nothing about Fallout and she was completely confused and thought everyone was a retard. The people who had even a passing knowledge of Fallout were all "This is fucking retarded".

I mean, for fuck's sake, the Fallout series is damn near 30 years old.

We're seeing the same shit as we did with The Witcher (LOL, didn't watch) and every other show where the actual setting was brushed aside for the writer's room faggot's "message".

This fucking trailer, which I've only seen pieces, as well as the four pieces of suckass artwork. is complete fucking trash.

How can they be that close to the Mojave Desert and not know what it fucking looks like?
 
Who is growing the food for all these chucklefucks?
Oh boy, here we got again
But no, you're completely right. Thing is that anyone who watches this shit is genuinely too fucking stupid to care, like Idiocracy levels of stupid with the show nearing "Ow, My Balls!" in retardation at times.
Pictured: Fallout fan from 2005 wakes up after a 20 year old coma and finds himself seeing the brand new season of the Fallout(tm) TV Show, along with one of it's fans.

There is no point in thinking about anything because this is just another fun theme park day in Bethesda Land, except this time there is no interactivity like there is in the games, you're just along for the ride.
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Fucking Mickey Mouse cartoons have better level of continuity and realism at this point.
 
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Oh boy, here we got again
But no, you're completely right. Thing is that anyone who watches this shit is genuinely too fucking stupid to care, like Idiocracy levels of stupid with the show nearing "Ow, My Balls!" in retardation at times.
Pictured: Fallout fan from 2005 wakes up after a 20 year old coma and finds himself seeing the brand new season of the Fallout(tm) TV Show, along with one of it's fans.

There is no point in thinking about anything because this is just another fun theme park day in Bethesda Land, except this time there is no interactivity like there is in the games, you're just along for the ride.
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Fucking Mickey Mouse cartoons have better level of continuity and realism at this point.
If I'd seen ONE actual farm, not just "LOL racist sexist retarded inbred white guy with his sand farm..." bullshit, I wouldn't ask.

But because to the faggots writing this show, food comes from the store, they put NO thought into anything.

Even Fallout 1 had farms. I think it was Fallout 2 that had the "Find out whose killing the cows" and it turned out to be a supermutant with a stealth boy.
 
If I'd seen ONE actual farm, not just "LOL racist sexist retarded inbred white guy with his sand farm..." bullshit, I wouldn't ask.

But because to the faggots writing this show, food comes from the store, they put NO thought into anything.

Even Fallout 1 had farms. I think it was Fallout 2 that had the "Find out whose killing the cows" and it turned out to be a supermutant with a stealth boy.
Ever since Fallout 3, people literally just ate the 200 year old preserved food and that's the explanation Bethesda/their cultists actually went with. I thought we went over this.
Honestly, the iconography of the entire show is cheap and awful, people mention that the Mojave doesn't look like Mojave but it was bad in Season 1 too. Lack of farms is the least of it's problems. I can't wait to see them ruin the iconic locations from New Vegas, just like how they ruined how Shady Sands looked in the first season.
 
hat House was always evil and behind the bombs because the TV show said so and what New Vegas shows doesn't matter.
People will legitimately claim that House was just straight up lying to you as if his entire character isn't built up as a very blunt and unashamed man who sees deception as a waste of time and prefers to force everything to be a strict, straightforward contract. If House had anything to do with the bombs dropping, he'd tell you. He'd talk about the meeting with Vault Tech, laugh at how retarded they are and use it as an excuse to brag about why he's superior. This is a guy who will casually order you to wipe out entire communities if you must with no further framing than he deems it necessary because he sees it as the logical outcome; he's not gonna try and sugarcoat or hide other deeds he's committed that people might find morally questionable.

Hate House, think he's delusional or arrogant, but the man is very clearly made to be a character who doesn't see a need to try and bullshit the people working for him.
 
Like hell he does
He's the only actor that apparently gives enough of a fuck to even try and act.

Yes, I'm aware of the lore rape, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make. The direction is shit, the actors, even the talented ones, look like they have no idea what they're doing, the fight choreography is abysmal any time the show tries to be serious, instead of aping Tom & Jerry slapsticks, the props look half-assed, to the point Fallout fan projects manage to look more professional (but then again, the fans actually cared).

It's all shit, the show doesn't have any redeeming qualities. It actually reminds me of the new Alien TV show (or better, said that one reminds me of Fallout). A product so devoid of quality in every aspect that I struggle to think how it managed to get released in this state.

Hollywood didn't use to be like this. Even going back 5 years ago there were shows that, despite the godawful writing and woke casting, still looked like they were being made by a team of seasoned professionals - good directing, good camerawork, editing, props, practical and digital effects et al.

Nowadays everything looks so fucking cheap and amateurish. The Alien show cost upward of $220 million. That's $27,5 million per episode, excluding marketing (which would likely double the cost). For comparison, the Dredd movie cost around $45 million to make, and there's hundreds of other movies and TV shows that look better than these abortions, despite being made with a fraction of the budget.

The first season of this dogshit production cost $150 millions. Where did all the money go? What exactly did they burn so much cash on?

The show has MASSIVE problems even if it existed on its own.
And then there's the Brotherhood of Steel. How can an organization like that function, and continue to exist in the post-Apocalypse when they are run by complete morons, and apparently every single member is suffering from clinical levels of brain retardation?

Everything about the show baffles me. It's just objectively shit, and for the life of me I can't understand how anyone, be it old or new Fallout fans, TV watchers, even casual viewers, can defend it.

Are people really so stupid and vapid that this is what they think passes for good storytelling?
 
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