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Cryogonal2 said:
Imagine going NCR and not sacrificing Cass to bring the NCR and Van Graffs closer together as business partners. you're already a cuck for California, don't whine when your "FWB" Fucks With other Boys.
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It's a struggle not to ventilate her for talking too damn much as it is, stop giving me more reasons.
 
which is worse, Sequel Trilogy or Fallout TV Show? In terms of damages to their respective universes
For me I still think ST isn't nearly as bad as FoTV because at least for the most part; even Disney kind of regrets the ST which is why almost every single nu-SW property is a prequel/set-during-of/only a few months after the OT or now recently, a PT homage. You barely see any actual ST stuff aside from theme parks. I also think they did the smart idea of separating two continuities, Legends vs 'Canon' so at least none of the Legends kino is fucked over.
I don't know why the people at Bethesda couldn't make a Fallout 'Legends' and 'Canon' universe split. Would save all the headache. Just keep FoTV, 76, 4 and all the Bethesda shit as the new Canon, and keep Fallout 1, 2, FNV and maybe the spin-offs like Tactics as part of Legends. Fallout 3 can be the strange bastard child shared by both universes.
 
Miller said:
Install Linux, both Fallout 3 and New Vegas run perfectly on Proton.
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How are mods on Linux? Does Vortex or Mod Manager work with it? I ask because I absolutely do not want to go back to my Windows partition just to play Fallout NV again, since I've been Windows free for most of the year now outside of work.
 
demicolon said:
Depends: does the Black Rebel Guy's skin color play a role in the story? Could he be model-swapped for an Eskimo without having to rewrite his dialogue so it fits the ethnicity?

It's like Lynette who is black on purpose for the absurdity of her praising the virtues of slaver... SERVITUDE in Vault City.
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It's hard to conceptualise in the modern day, but Lynette was probably made black without any real thought put into it because once upon a time it literally didn't matter. It's like how the core cast of Predator 1 had 2 black guys, a native American, 4 white guys, and a brown chick - released today, even sans any actual race shit in the plot, the motive for having such a cast would be considered suspect.

Deus Ex doesn't feature race politics or anything that'd be a dead giveaway for woke content, which is the crux of my position that (a) Woke does have a definition which content can or can't meet to properly determine such content (b) the inclusion of certain elements on their own (mostly characteristic-based ones) do not necessarily make something woke.

There's a sort of reverse to what you say propose that also ought to apply, where if Gannon and Veronica were straight, do their characters/stories still function regardless of their orientation? If yes, then good, if no, then bad. "Why make them [x] at all then?" Genuinely couldn't say, too many variables to consider. Arcade could've been made gay purely to give the "do more damage against men as a man" perk some use in dialogue or something.
Miller said:
He still got cucked though.
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>kept the kids
>bombed LA off the map
>killed anybody who might've known
Mass murder just about evens out the stain of being cucked I think.
Caligura said:
which is worse, Sequel Trilogy or Fallout TV Show? In terms of damages to their respective universes
For me I still think ST isn't nearly as bad as FoTV because at least for the most part; even Disney kind of regrets the ST which is why almost every single nu-SW property is a prequel/set-during-of/only a few months after the OT or now recently, a PT homage. You barely see any actual ST stuff aside from theme parks. I also think they did the smart idea of separating two continuities, Legends vs 'Canon' so at least none of the Legends kino is fucked over.
I don't know why the people at Bethesda couldn't make a Fallout 'Legends' and 'Canon' universe split. Would save all the headache. Just keep FoTV, 76, 4 and all the Bethesda shit as the new Canon, and keep Fallout 1, 2, FNV and maybe the spin-offs like Tactics as part of Legends. Fallout 3 can be the strange bastard child shared by both universes.
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The sequel trilogy by far. It doesn't retroactively ruin past material both canon and "legends" by existing unlike the Fallout TV show which can potentially fuck over New Vegas and possibly 1 & 2 with regard to the NCR.
There's also the mystery of this library card in episode 5 of season 1:
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The show has already potentially retconned itself because going off of this book in conjunction to the whiteboard in season 1, the show originally just had New Vegas as not happening. Which in hindsight would've been a better means of diverging from the canon if you just wanted to nuke the NCR and have Vegas get overrun with Legion who, given there's now no NCR, Caesar's ultimate objective can't be fulfilled and so would have to make due in Colorado.

The only piece of sequel trilogy media to be released outside the movies is books and that new podracer game they announced at the game awards, because pretty much every creative type considers them poison due to how how derivative and bland they are. You basically have the original trilogy's galaxy but with nothing interesting whatsoever.
 
Campbell_Trio said:
Didn't they show off the lucy max and ghouls special stats on social media?
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Their characters chucked into Fallout Shelter.
Lucy MacLean:
Strength-4

Perception-7

Endurance-6

Charisma-5

Intelligence-6

Agility-5

Luck- 7

The Ghoul:
Strength-5

Perception-6

Endurance-7

Charisma-7

Intelligence-4

Agility-7

Luck-4

Maximus:
Strength-7

Perception-6

Endurance-6

Charisma-5

Intelligence-4

Agility-7

Luck-5

Ma June:
Strength-5

Perception-7

Endurance-5

Charisma-7

Intelligence-6

Agility-4

Luck-6
Norm
Strength-3

Perception-8

Endurance-4

Charisma-4

Intelligence-9

Agility-6

Luck-6

Chet
Strength-7

Perception-4

Endurance-5

Charisma-7

Intelligence-5

Agility-5

Luck-7
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Yes, the Ghoul has 4 Luck and 7 Charisma and Lucy's intelligence is somehow above average.

Ugh.
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Caligura said:
which is worse, Sequel Trilogy or Fallout TV Show? In terms of damages to their respective universes
For me I still think ST isn't nearly as bad as FoTV because at least for the most part; even Disney kind of regrets the ST which is why almost every single nu-SW property is a prequel/set-during-of/only a few months after the OT or now recently, a PT homage. You barely see any actual ST stuff aside from theme parks. I also think they did the smart idea of separating two continuities, Legends vs 'Canon' so at least none of the Legends kino is fucked over.
I don't know why the people at Bethesda couldn't make a Fallout 'Legends' and 'Canon' universe split. Would save all the headache. Just keep FoTV, 76, 4 and all the Bethesda shit as the new Canon, and keep Fallout 1, 2, FNV and maybe the spin-offs like Tactics as part of Legends. Fallout 3 can be the strange bastard child shared by both universes.
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Show isnt canon and there is no way in hell fallout 5 will be good.
 
El Chacal De La Trompeta said:
Show isnt canon and there is no way in hell fallout 5 will be good.
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They've implied that the show may overlap with future games somehow so Fallout 4 could end being the last canon Fallout in some people's minds considering 76 also features The Ghoul. Fallout 5 acknowledging the show in some measure would canonise it. They can't ever speak of the NCR again without acknowledging the nuke so you'd basically have to consider everything from hereon out as non-canon lmao.
 
GlupShitto said:
As much as I love New Vegas, it's undeniably one of the first woke games. Between pushing the homosexual persecution narrative, every third NPC being a shitskin, and the fact that the writers couldn't help but undermine the Legion by emphasizing that they're secretly gay and lame, it laid the formula for woke games, it just managed to be a masterpiece despite being woke, which no game that's tried to copy it has managed to do. Humorously, due to Bethesda only copying the surface level aspects of New Vegas, Fallout 4 largely avoided wokeness in favor of "look it's cowboys and root beer and returning characters!"
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You never played the first two games, have you?
 
souschef said:
You never played the first two games, have you?
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I have.

Also I've been thinking, the throwaway gag of including the Ark of the Covenant in the Fallout TV show confirms the existence of God in the franchise. I don't think that directly contradicts any preestablished lore, but it's funny because of how so much of the franchise's writing reeks of Reddit atheism.
 
Campbell_Trio said:
Ghoul should have 6 luck and 5 charisma. Cooper howard would have 4 L 7 C
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Right on, but for the Ghoul it's pretty much a dump stat. He's been in multiple situations where his life was in jeopardy as a result of his personality but was then saved by chance (Lucy not surviving her situation would've seen the Ghoul just go feral in front of the super duper mart). The flaw with t-60 armour ended up giving him 1-shot kills on BoS at the end of season 1 and even without using it he's still pretty much scoring critical hits with every shot he makes. Nobody likes interacting with him, and he's shown to be exceedingly resilient (shrugging off bullets), is a good shot, and has at least survived this far meaning he has some degree of intelligence as to not fall over and die in a ditch somewhere.

Ghoul:
Strength-5
Perception-6
Endurance-10
Charisma-1
Intelligence-6
Agility-3
Luck-10

The logic of how luck works in this show almost every character (except Norm) could have high luck stats.
 
Mister Uno said:
How are mods on Linux? Does Vortex or Mod Manager work with it? I ask because I absolutely do not want to go back to my Windows partition just to play Fallout NV again, since I've been Windows free for most of the year now outside of work.
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I've been playing New Vegas without mods but I know Nexus is working on a Linux version of Vortex, they have a handful of games compatible.
 
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