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I think house was always supposed to be a figure more wrong/insane than anything, evil wouldnt be an inaccurate descriptor but it’s not as useful because original new Vegas was very insistent on every option having major drawbacks and moral relativism. Still think the only major problem with the show is the decision that nearly everything recognizable dies off immediately in the 20 some years following the game.
 
Dorkwan said:
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god damn, house is beyond retarded to still try to have pull when even shitty raiders can deal with his supposed super robot army with ease, at the end of the day war is a numbers game and he seems oblivious or ignorant to that.
Cryogonal2 said:
Because FUCK CHAOS, fuck that Joker shit the world already burned, who wants to watch it burn twice?
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someone didn't get the independent vegas ending to be saying that :smug:
 
GratsTheat783 said:
I think the Followers of the Apocalypse are a boring faction in FNV because while all the other factions have all sorts of reasons for and against them, the FoA just seem like a plain good-guy faction.
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Followers of the Apocalypse try to be anarcho-communist, thinking that without force and the right promise of equity, everyone will be good and improve and it's only the harshness of the wastes and the oppression of the factions that causes people in freeside and other areas to act out and resort to being criminals. There not entirely wrong in their assessment but the problem comes in both that worldview i mentioned which is so beyond naive in alot of instances it borders on parody, but also either the rejection or refusal of power.

Whatever influence and power the group has they do not exert onto others to get their way, there the worst type of pacifists. The only reason they hire guards for their outpost is because even they realize that they'd get robbed and killed by the desperate junkies of freeside and groups like the fiends. They leech off of the NCR while also complaining about their laws and imposing their will onto the region. They are written to be comically good. I wouldn't mind it as much if they had some internal acknowledgement from their members that their weak or they are reliant on others to cross moral boundaries they refuse to.

Take Emily Ortal for example and her little side quest. She wants to learn how Mr House stayed alive so long and what technology he's hoarding to himself, she tries to pry and learn what she can through any means necessary shy of murder, she sleeps with Benny for the chance to study the securitron as well as agrees to reprogram it to make yes man even though she knows Benny is sleazy and not a good person. After she's inevitably betrayed she then reaches out to the Courier, Mr House has finally started being more active in the world and lets the courier inside the Lucky 38, the first person in 200 years, rather than try to petition the Courier to ask House or to strike up a bargain on behalf of the Followers, her solution? To ask the Courier to betray House trust and try to hack into his mainframe and steal whatever info he had. If any other faction did this they'd be called out for it due to the deception involved, because its the Followers it's framed as a good thing there doing it because they help everyone, but the reality is House and other factions all still work towards the same goal and their all more honest about it in some ways while also acknowledging the hypocrisy of their actions. She even says after the bug is deactivated that they'll keep trying to do so, any other group would attack them or call them out on their bullshit, if House ever retaliated he'd be seen as the bad guy for defending what he owns, which if his dialogue and plans are to be believed, he plans on one day distributing anyway. Each faction has their twist and drawback to it House is no exception with how he does things but the Followers drawback is a mix of their ridiculous altruism and their inability to be independent or own up to their own faults, its all good to stand on your principles, but you have to accept the drawbacks in doing so, the drawbacks being for the Followers that their pushovers who bite the hand of every major faction that aids them or who they come to rely on.
 
TheHarbinger said:
One of the more dark comedy ending slides is if you win with the Legion it then says that Caesar was so angry that the Followers spread lies about Roman history that he orders them all hunted down and murdered. This being implied a response to Arcade Gannon's mocking of the current Caesar to anyone who would listen.
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If Caesar dies and the Legion wins, they exterminate the Followers for spreading "lies" about Caesar being a normal man and not Son of Mars. If the Legion wins and Caesar is still alive, he spares the Followers and gives them safe passage out of New Vegas because he still has some love for the people who took him in as a child, which is quite bittersweet.

I've always had a soft spot for the Followers. Sure they are naive, idealistic, maybe boring, but I identify with their desire to gain and spread knowledge for the betterment of humanity. I also like how they often rely on more covert methods to make progress. They might not have a lot of firepower, but they secretly have their fingers in a lot of areas. I would probably join the Followers if I was in the Fallout universe.
 
El Chacal De La Trompeta said:
mmm im sorry chud some youtube trannny faggot just said that actually fallout has always been shit.
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Honestly, based on a lot of Fallout fans metrics, it has been.

Someone will say that Fallout 4 sucks cause it's too goofy while completely ignoring Fallout 2's numerous gay pop culture easter eggs or New Vegas wild wasteland perk.

I have enjoyed seeing a bunch of people on reddit throwing a shit fit that they ruined House in the newest episode by making him have an outburst after being belittled and basically outing themselves as only ever playing New Vegas once or always following the same path because House absolutely does throw a hissy fit and seethes when you don't do what he wants in the game.
 
Problematic User Forever said:
while completely ignoring Fallout 2's numerous gay pop culture easter eggs or New Vegas wild wasteland perk.
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>easter eggs
>perk
You see how its different from just the game being silly?
None of those are "cannon" since they were designed as small jokes. And i can accept some amount of shit throw in fallout 2's way but not new vegas. You can simply don't tick the box and you don't have to care about silly staff.
But the guy who doesnt undertands how baseball works? Thats cannon now.
 
Arbiter said:
If Caesar dies and the Legion wins, they exterminate the Followers for spreading "lies" about Caesar being a normal man and not Son of Mars. If the Legion wins and Caesar is still alive, he spares the Followers and gives them safe passage out of New Vegas because he still has some love for the people who took him in as a child, which is quite bittersweet.

I've always had a soft spot for the Followers. Sure they are naive, idealistic, maybe boring, but I identify with their desire to gain and spread knowledge for the betterment of humanity. I also like how they often rely on more covert methods to make progress. They might not have a lot of firepower, but they secretly have their fingers in a lot of areas. I would probably join the Followers if I was in the Fallout universe.
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I actually like Ceasers approach towards them, it shows everyone that hes not just a blatantly evil person like the other 75% of the game shows the legion as. He still understands his origins even if he lies about it to perpetuate his myth and false religion, its less so a god complex, because if it were just a flat out god complex, he'd murder them all under his watch to hide and suppress the truth fully, but its only the people who do deify him that do it.

Really wish Vegas had better writers who were willing to actually expand on the Legion and its content a bit more, there were plans at one point for you to go to Arizona or a part of Legion controlled territory to see what society is like there, which i think would've made them more interesting as a faction and given them some more moral ambiguity, but i also think some of the writers are a bit to bias to have ever treated them as a fully serious choice outside of "the evil primitive slavers" faction on a meta level, and people like Josh sawyer saying so in interviews (from what i recall) on not wanting them to be playable highlights that, thank god they actually give you the option to explore the legion and learn more about it rather than making them a slight upgrade from Raiders.
 
Well, they actually did it, they have officially gone full retard with the fallout IP

PROGRAM DESCRIPTION

Fallout Shelter (working title) is a new reality competition series based on the hit Amazon drama and computer game of the same name. The dwellers (contestants) live together in a top-secret vault, where they will compete in a series of games that tests the seven core attributes from the Fallout world. Strength, perception, endurance, charisma, intelligence, agility and luck (S.P.E.C.I.A.L).

The series will not only test dwellers’ core attributes, but also their loyalty and alliances. It’s a game of power dynamics, popularity and social strategy which will ultimately result in a huge cash prize, but do you have what it takes to be the most S.P.E.C.I.A.L?.
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Why am I not surprised
 
Lorkhan187 said:
Really wish Vegas had better writers who were willing to actually expand on the Legion and its content a bit more, there were plans at one point for you to go to Arizona or a part of Legion controlled territory to see what society is like there
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Same here. It would have been fun getting more into the Cult of Mars stuff, seeing other Legati, and seeing the other roles in Legion society not present on the front. Seeing the Priestesses of Mars and how the childcare/indoctrination system works would be very interesting.

WonderWino said:
Well, they actually did it, they have officially gone full retard with the fallout IP
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Mr. Beast as the Overseer
 
Gayming circlejerk is having yet another meltdown about fallout not being a critique of capitalism:
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Copium ensues:

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Arbiter said:
Mr. Beast as the Overseer
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I honestly wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they actually did that. It would also be ironically IP appropriate considering what a manipulative, evil creep he is. Maybe making it an under 18 vault and adding a few of his troon associates in there

harbringer883 said:
Gayming circlejerk is having yet another meltdown about fallout not being a critique of capitalism:
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Unsurprisingly these idiots don't understand what parody actually is
 
harbringer883 said:
Gayming circlejerk is having yet another meltdown about fallout not being a critique of capitalism:
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I don't know where this dude thinks he's pulling this from. The RESOURCE Wars were driven by dwindling RESOURCES, then things came to a head when the US took the last bit of oil and told (COMMIE) China to fuck off. Is he talking about New Vegas since it's Avellone? Because while you can say a lot on the NCR and Legion motivations, at the end of the day the center of the conflict is HOOVER DAM FOR IT'S ELECTRIC AND WATER RESOURCES.
That's not even getting into the whole deal with the background for domestic issues were coming off of government lock downs related to the new plague and that the corporation's greed were fueled way more by those juicy government social program contracts that no one was looking too close at so you could embezzle from real easy.
I'm not hallucinating that last part right? I know they're trying to rewrite the past, but I thought the whole deal with the vaults was the higher ups never actually expected the bombs to drop so they were swindling the government by getting paid to build them, meanwhile the whole proto-Enclave shadow government was going to use the people that went in as tests for long term space travel and they were going to leave the world to find a new one with more RESOURCES.
 
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WonderWino said:
Fallout Shelter (working title) is a new reality competition series based on the hit Amazon drama and computer game of the same name. The dwellers (contestants) live together in a top-secret vault, where they will compete in a series of games that tests the seven core attributes from the Fallout world
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Please. PLEASE have this all be a hell house situation.
have one challenge where they're told over 50 thousand rats are about to be released into their vault, siren blasting while elevator music plays.
Make them suffer.

But I know this shit is going to be Mr. Beast challenges with a fallout coat of paint
you'd have to be fucking retarded if you still think "fallout's always been a criticism on capitalism" after this shit.
 
WonderWino said:
I honestly wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they actually did that. It would also be ironically IP appropriate considering what a manipulative, evil creep he is. Maybe making it an under 18 vault and adding a few of his troon associates in there
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That sounds like something the Murdoch Murdoch crew would do if they made a episode to parody the current direction the Franchise is going.
 
El Chacal De La Trompeta said:
its fallout london THAT good or 4 that bad that they are consulting some modder fag about what bethesda should do with their fucking ip lmao
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London is simply decent. It's a well rounded experience and shows that you don't need to furiously masturbate to the same 3 factions and the same 5 brands every single game for your lorebuilding.
 
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