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The topic of tabletop RPGs came up in the Star Wars thread and after falling down that rabbit hole, I found out that apparently there's a sourcebook for campaigns set between Fallout 2 and New Vegas. I'm tempted to buy it and see if any Van Buren stuff ended up getting recycled in there.

I'd love to play it, but I'm not a good GM and I've never seen a soul mention this game before.
 
GlupShitto said:
The topic of tabletop RPGs came up in the Star Wars thread and after falling down that rabbit hole, I found out that apparently there's a sourcebook for campaigns set between Fallout 2 and New Vegas. I'm tempted to buy it and see if any Van Buren stuff ended up getting recycled in there.
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The Modiphius 2D20 books? They're novel enough from what I've seen peeking at the PDFs online, but I've never met a soul who's actually played them. Bit of a shame because the character building seems decently detailed when you branch into the separate guidebooks that add new perks and backgrounds.
 
Serbian Peacekeepers said:
I would have the same opinion, but when I checked his twitter one of the first things I saw was him retweeting a drawing of Optimus Prime protecting the hecking wholesome migrants from the evil ICE fascists, and so I hope he leaves faster now.
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And just like that, I've lost all respect.
harbringer883 said:
Which artist is this?
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DecomposedTaco.
Enward Cullen said:
They're novel enough from what I've seen peeking at the PDFs online, but I've never met a soul who's actually played them.
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Never even heard of them before, apparently very little people even like it either. They do have a 1d6chan page, might have to ask the Tabletop thread later.
 
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I'm not sure if it's confirmed anywhere in-game, but is the trace amount of F.E.V in humans the reason why radiation has such minimal effects on humans in the setting? It's also help explain the existence of ghouls if it's the F.E.V. just adapting their body to survive in highly irradiated environments. The F.E.V's purpose was to create bioweapons essentially, so humans, like Deathclaws, just see their natural components enhanced massively to function as tools of war when exposed to a ton of it. The aberration is introducing trace amounts of F.E.V, which wouldn't do much of anything but minor alteration on a genetic level. We learn in 1 that F.E.V exists in every living organism due to it contaminating the atmosphere during the war. Ghouls are the human body/F.E.V's attempt to force adaptation of the host to survive in the radiation they're bathing in.

Crazy theory:
When the player "levels up", it's the F.E.V within them adapting their bodies to the environment. It explains some of the more bizarre perks which often grant the player superhuman feats, such as randomly exploding like that one lvl 20 F3 perk.

The Fallout 3 protag can level up within Vault 101 because they were born outside the vault to parents who were both greatly exposed to atmospheric F.E.V already.

I don't think it's possible for the Fallout 4 protag to level within their Vault but I could be wrong.
F1 protag is also exposed to the outside world for an extended period before level up.

Slightly crazier theory:

The games also don't mention cancer much, which means it's plausible cancer no longer exists as a result of F.E.V. traces in humans. The only humans who'd still be susceptible to cancers would be those sheltered from the contamination of F.E.V in the atmosphere i.e. Vault Dwellers. In F1 F.E.V was miniscule at that point but still present and it was enough for the Enclave to lockdown a genetic sequence to attack with their virus/modified F.E.V.

Shaun/Father dies of some vague disease right? But what if, as a consequence of his pure genetics and continued isolation in the Institute shielding him from the F.E.V in atmosphere, he was susceptible to cancers which have long since become extinct in the human population. The Institute was founded in 2110, so in effect, you already had an entire generation of post-war people irrevocably altered by the F.E.V. and thus immune to cancer. So by 2287, cancer has effectively gone extinct. Rare, uncommon diseases are hard to diagnose right? So nobody at the Institute knows how to deal with what Shaun has because they don't know what it is lmao. This is definitely wrong and autodocs from the pre-war would instantly determine the issue if they had one on hand but still.
 
Deus Exica said:
Even so, it still has problems. I don't know why anyone would ever side with The Children of Atom aside from contrarian evil playthroughs.
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Roleplay and applying value to what the game presents you. They send you on a quest to drink irradiated water and then you start seeing shit. As a gamer removed from the situation via proxy it’s just you following quest markers to the next objective. Step into the character for a second and it’s a hallucination or a sign from a higher power.

My last playthrough I played it as a dark and forbidding moment where I didnt understand what I saw but didn’t like it. In a rather hypocritical fashion I saved everyone, made Far Harbor forgive the synths (I couldn’t save Dima), but then I ensured the destruction of the sub because something was frightening about the experience. You could choose to find faith in the symbols instead and make the move against Far Harbor.
 
Ah, I see that we're at the "activists infiltrated the hobby and are elbowing the original fans out while claiming to have been there since day one" part.

It's funny, really. The people who claim to care the most about art and culture always cheer the loudest when an IP gets dessacrated and loses everything that made it unique, turning it into the same corporate-safe, meaningless slop you see everywhere.
 
Enward Cullen said:
The Modiphius 2D20 books? They're novel enough from what I've seen peeking at the PDFs online, but I've never met a soul who's actually played them. Bit of a shame because the character building seems decently detailed when you branch into the separate guidebooks that add new perks and backgrounds.
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2d20 games all feel the same, it was interesting and new back when it was just Star Trek and Conan, since those settings could make use of the style inherent to the system and how it works. But everything afterwards has been more questionable, Fallout really should have been a % game, or literally anything with more crunch.
 
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The games also don't mention cancer much, which means it's plausible cancer no longer exists as a result of F.E.V. traces in humans. The only humans who'd still be susceptible to cancers would be those sheltered from the contamination of F.E.V in the atmosphere i.e. Vault Dwellers. In F1 F.E.V was miniscule at that point but still present and it was enough for the Enclave to lockdown a genetic sequence to attack with their virus/modified F.E.V.

Shaun/Father dies of some vague disease right? But what if, as a consequence of his pure genetics and continued isolation in the Institute shielding him from the F.E.V in atmosphere, he was susceptible to cancers which have long since become extinct in the human population. The Institute was founded in 2110, so in effect, you already had an entire generation of post-war people irrevocably altered by the F.E.V. and thus immune to cancer. So by 2287, cancer has effectively gone extinct. Rare, uncommon diseases are hard to diagnose right? So nobody at the Institute knows how to deal with what Shaun has because they don't know what it is lmao. This is definitely wrong and autodocs from the pre-war would instantly determine the issue if they had one on hand but still.
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Caesar had cancer, and I don’t think he was ever in a highly sheltered circumstance like that. Plus the reason the Legion couldn’t treat it was just because nobody in it had proper medical knowledge, but the player knows how to treat it with high Medicine. I think the Institute somehow not being able to do anything about Shaun’s cancer is just usual nonsensical writing on Bethesda’s part.
 
scathefire said:
Caesar had cancer, and I don’t think he was ever in a highly sheltered circumstance like that. Plus the reason the Legion couldn’t treat it was just because nobody in it had proper medical knowledge, but the player knows how to treat it with high Medicine. I think the Institute somehow not being able to do anything about Shaun’s cancer is just usual nonsensical writing on Bethesda’s part.
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I just assume that either they found out about Father's cancer too late or it really just is something they didn't have the ability to cure.
 
scathefire said:
Caesar had cancer, and I don’t think he was ever in a highly sheltered circumstance like that. Plus the reason the Legion couldn’t treat it was just because nobody in it had proper medical knowledge, but the player knows how to treat it with high Medicine. I think the Institute somehow not being able to do anything about Shaun’s cancer is just usual nonsensical writing on Bethesda’s part.
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Regarding Caesar, we don't actually know if he did for certain, but the Courier can "diagnose" him with a successful speech check:
Straight-forward case of intra-cranial blastoma fibrolosis,
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Whilst the medicine check gets:
I'm afraid your symptoms are consistent with a brain lesion, most likely a tumor.
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The latter is more vague than the former, but the former isn't a lie(???), lmao. Courier 6 must've picked something up via osmosis or something. However, assuming there's any stock to Courier 6's speech check, it doesn't clear anything up. "Blastoma" is a form of cancer, but it's usually a suffix, and such cancers are more common children than adults. Courier 6 might've accidently half-guessed the correct form brain tumour - such as the very rare Hemangioblastoma, a non-cancerous brain tumour caused by blood vessels. Though it's just as likely it was any other number of blastomas which are cancerous.

Brain tumours are scary as shit and are instantly associated with cancer but the actual rate of them being benign is 50% and won't ever grow back if removed. Cancerous ones will, which would make curing Caesar overall pointless since there's no guarantee the tumours won't come back and you'll just have to keep cutting out pieces of Caesar's brain in lieu of complex cancer treatments. If it's cancer, any conceivable argument to side with Caesar gets smothered under him having 0 long-term viability due to his disease.

We can't autism whether it's benign or cancerous either since the symptoms of either brain tumours are identical. His headaches only started being debilitating "recently" and since he's hunky dory after one round of surgery thanks to the release pressure off the brain, I'm leaning more towards benign personally.
 
after browsing round one hundred worth of featured shitposts, why ya would not just like play o.g 2d fallouts? not like anyone posting shit in there has a difficulty comprehending walls of text

i unironically advice olympus 2207 and nevada / sonora, the plot is good and the devs were deliriously trying to account as for much shit as possible so each playthrough is totally different
 
Masturbator said:
after browsing round one hundred worth of featured shitposts, why ya would not just like play o.g 2d fallouts? not like anyone posting shit in there has a difficulty comprehending walls of text

i unironically advice olympus 2207 and nevada / sonora, the plot is good and the devs were deliriously trying to account as for much shit as possible so each playthrough is totally different
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I do want to try those full-conversions at some point. I played 1 and 2 back to back intending to go onto the full-conversions straight after, but I was just burnt out. I'll give them a go after TTW.
Olympus -> Nevada -> Sonora?
 
gaysexenjoyer said:
Apparently some FNV artist got ratio'd by a gimmick account on twitter calling him a tourist and is "leaving the fallout fandom" over it. Very serious business on the reddit.
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I know new vegas released in a state where both "chuds" and troons can actually like it for similar reasons but it would be funny if after years of trying to make tranny new vegas fans into a meme, they get BTFOed by Fallout 4 and show Normies who keep getting tired of them calling their shit retarded
 
>IMPLYING said:
When the player "levels up", it's the F.E.V within them adapting their bodies to the environment. It explains some of the more bizarre perks which often grant the player superhuman feats, such as randomly exploding like that one lvl 20 F3 perk.
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Vault Dweller (original) was never exposed until the Vats, and even then that's far more than trace. Chosen One theoretically also skipped exposure since by the time of their birth their stock was (almost) entirely from a Vault and the atmospheric FEV stream had died off.
The only PCs this works on are Lone Wanderer (explicitly out-of-Vault stock) and Courier 6 ('lol who the fuck knows'), since Sole Survivor is explicitly pre-war stock unless you adopt the retarded theory they're a gen 3 synth, in which case that's also not trace exposure, their entire body is made of the stuff Super Mutant style.
Cool theory though, even if it's just Nuclear Throne leveling.
scathefire said:
Caesar had cancer, and I don’t think he was ever in a highly sheltered circumstance like that. Plus the reason the Legion couldn’t treat it was just because nobody in it had proper medical knowledge, but the player knows how to treat it with high Medicine. I think the Institute somehow not being able to do anything about Shaun’s cancer is just usual nonsensical writing on Bethesda’s part.
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It's entirely possible that they caught the 'kid's cancer too late or it was one of the high-mortality ones even if they did treat it.
 
I had not been paying attention to the second season of the TV show and I am happy to report I almost forgot it existed until recently. Happiest feeling in the world, I can only imagine the humiliation the handful of people here who genuinely cared about it here went thru with how fucking stupid the story is. You get exactly what you deserve for liking this slop to begin with.
Masturbator said:
after browsing round one hundred worth of featured shitposts, why ya would not just like play o.g 2d fallouts? not like anyone posting shit in there has a difficulty comprehending walls of text

i unironically advice olympus 2207 and nevada / sonora, the plot is good and the devs were deliriously trying to account as for much shit as possible so each playthrough is totally different
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Because posters here are largely redditors who either like Toddouts or New Vegas, reading is beyond their comprehension and reading is what they would have to do if they decided to play the older entries. My limited attempts to actually have proper discussions on the franchise here ended with a few low IQ morons crying that I wrote too much and swearing like a small child instead of trying to prove me wrong on anything.
Speaking of Nevada and Sonora, Nevada Band is now developing their own brand new RPG, which I am very excited for. Shame it won't take place in the Fallout universe, but as Olympus and ATOM RPG has shown, you can have a Fallout like RPG without the setting and it will still be fine. Russians really are the bloodline of the Fallout fanbase, the actual fanbase and not the retards that worship Fallout 4 and the TV show nowdays, the western side of the community is fucking awful.
 
30+GameOvers said:
I had not been paying attention to the second season of the TV show and I am happy to report I almost forgot it existed until recently. Happiest feeling in the world, I can only imagine the humiliation the handful of people here who genuinely cared about it here went thru with how fucking stupid the story is. You get exactly what you deserve for liking this slop to begin with.

Because posters here are largely redditors who either like Toddouts or New Vegas, reading is beyond their comprehension and reading is what they would have to do if they decided to play the older entries. My limited attempts to actually have proper discussions on the franchise here ended with a few low IQ morons crying that I wrote too much and swearing like a small child instead of trying to prove me wrong on anything.
Speaking of Nevada and Sonora, Nevada Band is now developing their own brand new RPG, which I am very excited for. Shame it won't take place in the Fallout universe, but as Olympus and ATOM RPG has shown, you can have a Fallout like RPG without the setting and it will still be fine. Russians really are the bloodline of the Fallout fanbase, the actual fanbase and not the retards that worship Fallout 4 and the TV show nowdays, the western side of the community is fucking awful.
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