Fallout: The Frontier - Done, and it's a hilarious shitshow

Time for a survey!

How does America rank among developer insert waifus?
Gonna really disappoint but in terms of characters I've seen added in to mods they're far from the worst.

Hell there are cringier things I've seen in Baldur's Gate mods and without a doubt worse in Elder Scrolls. Though few to none of those that I've seen are voice acted so that's an extra mile. Part of what makes her so gross is I think there's a genuine desire to actually make you feel like a creeper for putting a slave collar on her. Yet there's doubtless more in your face, honest to god degenerate filth.
 
Gonna really disappoint but in terms of characters I've seen added in to mods they're far from the worst.

Hell there are cringier things I've seen in Baldur's Gate mods and without a doubt worse in Elder Scrolls. Though few to none of those that I've seen are voice acted so that's an extra mile. Part of what makes her so gross is I think there's a genuine desire to actually make you feel like a creeper for putting a slave collar on her. Yet there's doubtless more in your face, honest to god degenerate filth.
Here's the point, though: other mods don't try to disguise themselves as lore-friendly serious stories. They make stupid shit for the sake of stupid shit, or cheesecake for the sake of cheesecake, they don't sugarcoat it and pretend like they're making high art.
 
Here's the point, though: other mods don't try to disguise themselves as lore-friendly serious stories. They make stupid shit for the sake of stupid shit, or cheesecake for the sake of cheesecake, they don't sugarcoat it and pretend like they're making high art.
Ohhh I've heard plenty say their stuff is high quality and potentially lore friendly before. It really is the incredible hubris of the mod makers that sets it apart, I agree on that much.

I'm genuinely curious if America's voice actress had any statements or opinions on the fetishistic lines they were doing readings for. Surely they had to know something was up.
 
Ohhh I've heard plenty say their stuff is high quality and potentially lore friendly before. It really is the incredible hubris of the mod makers that sets it apart, I agree on that much.

I'm genuinely curious if America's voice actress had any statements or opinions on the fetishistic lines they were doing readings for. Surely they had to know something was up.
The way its been described. It seems like the coders, writers, and voice actors all had their own version of this mod in their head. Like almost everyone involved has a different idea of what Frontier was gonna be. So I'd be she just thought she was voicing a dumb fetish mod.
 
Gonna really disappoint but in terms of characters I've seen added in to mods they're far from the worst.

Hell there are cringier things I've seen in Baldur's Gate mods and without a doubt worse in Elder Scrolls. Though few to none of those that I've seen are voice acted so that's an extra mile. Part of what makes her so gross is I think there's a genuine desire to actually make you feel like a creeper for putting a slave collar on her. Yet there's doubtless more in your face, honest to god degenerate filth.
I've always wondered, how do you make companion mods that don't suck or aren't cringeworthy?
 
I've always wondered, how do you make companion mods that don't suck or aren't cringeworthy?
I would say avoid making your character an edgy-but-not-too-edgy jokester with reddit tier-zingers that have no place in a video game. Do that and your mod's already better than 80 percent of the mods currently out there.
 
I've always wondered, how do you make companion mods that don't suck or aren't cringeworthy?
Outside of the mechanical level, a New Vegas companion is essentially four components: A personality and worldview, a companion quest, a backstory that explains the former and presents a problem or regret for the latter to solve, and a voice that ties it all together.

Take for instance Boone. Boone is a broken, depressed shell of a man mostly just moving on autopilot and his hate for the Legion. His backstory is that during his time as an NCR sniper he did some fucked-up shit that left him believing that the only justice for him could be a lonely, miserable death, and the moment he began to find a way out of his pit, it was all snatched away from him one last time. His companion quest is handled in two parts: earning his trust, after which he opens up with the gory details of his story, and then helping him to reconcile with his wrongdoings and find the strength to keep moving forward (unless you're an asshole). And for all of this, it still could have collapsed into a worthless pile of edge if not for the phenomenal work of Jason Marsden, who sells every ounce of sorrow and regret his role demanded.

If you want to make a good companion mod, start by making these four parts work together as well as possible, and you should be off to a good start.
 
I've always wondered, how do you make companion mods that don't suck or aren't cringeworthy?
Your character also has to fit into the context of the world, and feel like they belong in the world you're putting them in.

Like say, for instance, when thinking about a character to put into Skyrim, a good example would be a female Nord warrior who's all about Nord culture and its warrior-poet traditions. She'd be very adamant about Talos worship and worships the ground Ulfric Stormcloak walks on. If you want to get into her panties, you can just reflect Stormcloak talking points, but if you want to turn her pro-Imperial, you have to persuade her that the Stormcloaks are harming the Nords as a whole and even show her evidence of it. (ie. show her the Thalmor dossier that says that they're manipulating Ulfric Stormcloak, show her the Gray Quarter in Windhelm where the Nords treat the Dark Elves like shit, show her Markarth where the oppressed Forsworn are chomping at the bit for vengeance because of what Ulfric did, etc.) Then maybe you can get her to fight for the Empire or mate with you despite the fact you're pro-Imperial.

Outside of the mechanical level, a New Vegas companion is essentially four components: A personality and worldview, a companion quest, a backstory that explains the former and presents a problem or regret for the latter to solve, and a voice that ties it all together.

Take for instance Boone. Boone is a broken, depressed shell of a man mostly just moving on autopilot and his hate for the Legion. His backstory is that during his time as an NCR sniper he did some fucked-up shit that left him believing that the only justice for him could be a lonely, miserable death, and the moment he began to find a way out of his pit, it was all snatched away from him one last time. His companion quest is handled in two parts: earning his trust, after which he opens up with the gory details of his story, and then helping him to reconcile with his wrongdoings and find the strength to keep moving forward (unless you're an asshole). And for all of this, it still could have collapsed into a worthless pile of edge if not for the phenomenal work of Jason Marsden, who sells every ounce of sorrow and regret his role demanded.

If you want to make a good companion mod, start by making these four parts work together as well as possible, and you should be off to a good start.

Part of what made Craig Boone such an awesome addition to Fallout New Vegas is that not only is his character deep and nuanced, not only is the backstory for him tragic and sympathetic, not only is his VO one of the best, but he also fits in the context of that world. He was engaged in the wars of the NCR and dropped out because the NCR forced them to keep attacking even when the enemy before them were just women and children. Then there was the stuff that happened to his wife, which involved the Legion. And you can gain his trust by having him fight the Legion, which then ends with him opening up to you and going to a place familiar to him, where the two of you turn the tide in a skirmish that becomes widely known as an act of heroism. And all of this fits into the context of the Legion-NCR War which was at the heart of New Vegas' story.

Instead of that, we have the girl named America in the Frontier DLC, and having a naive, easily-broken, easy-to-trust girl like America in a crapsack world like Fallout, hanging around with the Brotherhood Crusaders after parents abandoned her, doesn't make any sense. Would the opposite not occur for her? Wouldn't her experience teach her to not be so easily trusting, to not easily open up to the world? Wouldn't that make her instead into a jaded bitch who hunts down Brotherhood Paladins like scum because the Brotherhood of Steel wanted her gone for being a mutant, and her parents from the Brotherhood abandoned her to die? Her being a naive girl who easily trusts you and who hangs around with Brotherhood-style organizations like the Crusaders doesn't make sense.

It'd make more sense if she was riding with some kind of Enclave remnant that picked her up, and she's OK with them experimenting on her mutant body long as they give her the chance to wreak brutal vengeance on the Brotherhood and her parents for expelling her, essentially turning her into a female Frank Horrigan. She'd be walking around with a custom set of Enclave power armor, and you see her gunning down Brotherhood Paladins who have surrendered while asking them where her parents are. You can even add in that she abandoned the name her Brotherhood parents gave her, and she named herself "America" in honor of the Enclave for allowing her to join them. Then you can have her be a character who joins you if you join the Frontier Enclave, and she's assigned to you by the Enclave leader to A) make sure you succeed and B) kill you if you turn disloyal. And her loyalty mission would involve her finding her parents from the Brotherhood of Steel, with you getting her to kill them or spare them after humiliating them so she can get some closure.

But no, you can't have nuanced characters like that because the Frontier devs wanted their slavegirl waifu with stinky feet, and you can't join the Enclave because "it's a fascist power fantasy" even though they let you join the fascist Legion.

People today really are stupid.
 
The faction that can barely get a howitzer working and asks you to get some dipshit tribals to fire their cannons at the enemy, gets tanks.

Sounds legit. If you want to bang your head against a wall.

The lore friendly parts a joke. The desc has it saying LORE FRIENDLY in caps every time. :story:

The best part is this little nugget.

I tried to not make them literally unkillable with standard armaments and also decided not to make them only killable by an unreliable annoyingly scripted weapon because that would be stupid.
 
They don't deserve to use that image
Ok I get that its a meme mod but I feel like I need to get this off my chest as I continue writing my paper on the frontiers tanks.

The legion would just use NCR tanks! They wouldn't have their own tanks it would just be NCR tanks with legion symbols on it and probably addon armor to defeat NCR tank busters , how does the frontier get this so wrong?!
 
And for all of this, it still could have collapsed into a worthless pile of edge if not for the phenomenal work of Jason Marsden, who sells every ounce of sorrow and regret his role demanded.
I had no idea Boone was voiced by Jason Marsden. I practically grew up listening to his voice on stuff like A Goofy Movie and I'm pretty good at recognizing him when he shows up, but his performance as Boone is so different I didn't pick up on it. It makes Boone that little bit more interesting to me.
 
I'm genuinely curious if America's voice actress had any statements or opinions on the fetishistic lines they were doing readings for. Surely they had to know something was up.
Lol voice actors don't have any rights.

Sit in the booth, read your fucking lines and pray that payroll decides to send you a check.
 
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