Far Cry bullshitting

[Crypt Kicker]

I just played and beat Far Cry 3 for the first time and I found Jason Brody to be great character and fuck it I wanna talk about the Far Cry games but I wanna run a poll.
Also gonna finish Far Cry 4 again before getting into and finishing Far Cry 5.
Why do these games fuck/suck?
I assume 3 will be the winner followed by 4 then 5.
People that choose 2... why? I'm genuinely curious

 

[Breadbassket]

Never played any game in the series but Far Cry 3 and Far Cry 5 seem to be talked about the most when it comes to discourse online. Maybe they just had the most memorable antagonists.

 

[Judas Connor Moon]

Far Cry 1 has a fun shotty and Far Cry 2 has fun fire. That's all I need.

 

[Crypt Kicker]

I choose 4 because though even though I just played through 3 I can tell a lot of it's a retread, but it smooths out a lot of shit. I noticed that in 3 when you sprint hitting the jump button doesn't always work so it caused some deaths doing radio towers or just trying to jump off a cliff to activate the wingsuit. Also Pagan Min was a great villain. though his henchman (Yuma and De Pleuer specifically) aren't near as monstrous or evil as Buck, Hoyt, or Vass, but I think Min alone made up for that.
The gun customization in 3 and 4 is meh, but 5 it was fantastic I think. 5 really made me feel like I was in control of that aspect and I like the helicopter and plane combat.
Jason Brody is a much better character than Ajay Ghale because Jason actually seemed to have a personality. He was scared at the beginning while Ajay just kinda trudged along like he was bored teenager doing chores. And that Jason was literally a spoiled Cali douchebag turned into a monster killer while Ajay was just "okay whatever I guess I'm in this civil war I guess"

I'll give 5 massive neg points for the obnoxious bullshit that when you fuck with someone's area enough they just uproot you from whatever the fuck you're doing and force you into the mission. I've never played a game that actually ushered you to the end like Far Cry 5 did.

I didn't play FC 6 but I was pretty out of it when I saw the Macarena CD gun and the wheelchair puppy, and that was before I saw the tranny bullshit shoehorned into it. Also I'm sick of seeing Giancarlo Esposito even though he does play a good villain. He's just been in too much too soon, I'm getting fatigued, similar to Pedro Pascal. They'd be fine if they weren't oversaturated.

Never played any game in the series but Far Cry 3 and Far Cry 5 seem to be talked about the most when it comes to discourse online. Maybe they just had the most memorable antagonists.

Far Cry 3 seems to be the daddy of the series, and for good reason. Though the innocent man turned into a monster thing seems a little too ripped off from Breaking Bad, and considering the game makes a few references to Breaking Bad I don't think it was on accident. Though I have to say I do like that character progression.
Far Cry 5 made headlines because left wing outlets got excited because they though it was a Republican killing simulator and right wing outlets got mad because they believed it. But actually playing the game it seems more like a game that was made by lefties for that reason but it backfired immensely when right wingers loved it. Who'da thunk that a game about killing a terrorist cult that takes over your home would resonate with people that keep and bare arms that seem to be itching for a reason to use those arms. Fun Game but I'll have to rank it just below Far Cry 4 because I hate the silent protagonist thing.

 

[Xenu]

What? No Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon mention? That game was absolute Ubisoft peak of their quality.

 

[Tablet County]

People that choose 2... why? I'm genuinely curious

Because it is literally the most interesting one in the series. 1 is just Crysis but shitty, 3 is good, but also very safe and made for casuals. Every other Far Cry game is just an inferior version of Far Cry 3 except for Blood Dragon. Special mentions go to Primal for being conceptually interesting and 5 for being pretentious piffle.

 

[Crypt Kicker]

What? No Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon mention? That game was absolute Ubisoft peak of their quality.

I haven't got to Blood Dragon, I was more thinking of base games and not DLC but do please sell me on it. I like these games and want more of them.
From what I hear of Far Cry 7 it's going to flop fucking big time. Ubisoft must be allergic to making good games and making money after Star Wars Outlaws and the inevitable disaster of Assassin's Creed Shadows.
I hear Far Cry 7 is going to be on timer ala Majora's Mask where you only have a limited time to complete it before game over. I can get how some games would be good under those circumstances but I don't think the Far Cry series is the one to try that on. Make a new IP and see how it goes. But again, it's Ubisoft and they're probably scared shitless of the idea of making something new at this point considering even their blockbusters are going down the drain. Even if they have to make another Far Cry 3/4 clone it'll be better than whatever they've got in the oven right now.

Because it is literally the most interesting one in the series. 1 is just Crysis but shitty, 3 is good, but also very safe and made for casuals. Every other Far Cry game is just an inferior version of Far Cry 3 except for Blood Dragon. Special mentions go to Primal for being conceptually interesting and 5 for being pretentious piffle.

All I know of Far Cry 1 is that there are mutants or something and apparently the protagonist of 1 is the villain of 2. I might have that wrong though.
I'd kinda dig a new Far Cry game where the villain is a Jason Brody that went back to Rook Island after not being able to reacclimate to normal society, or an Ajay Ghale that took Pagan Min's word and took over Kyrat. Just anything besides a whiny spic like in Far Cry 6 or a voiceless pawn like 5.
Ubisoft should go back to the basics. They keep trying to reinvent the wheel and they fail utterly every single time. Quit doubling down on the shit that made your last game suck. Kicking your fans in the balls isn't going to hurt less just because you've done it before and they aren't going to suddenly enjoy it because you did it before either. I'd say at some point they're going to get sick of getting kicked in the balls but who the fuck am I kidding?

 

[JAKL II]

What? No Far Cry 3 Blood Dragon mention? That game was absolute Ubisoft peak of their quality.

This is the only correct answer.

 

[VanyaMotorbike]

Far Cry 2 is a flawed game but it has always been my favourite. The main problem is how it's always funneling you into enemy checkpoints and so forcing combat encounters on you at times when you'd rather just get to the next mission (Although at the same time, in the later FarCry's of course you take out these checkpoints permanently one by one which was kind of satisfying in terms of clearing the map, but also made much of the map empty and uneventful afterwards - so there are pluses and minuses to both approaches). But it's my favourite setting by far, it has a great weapons selection and while his dialogue is kind of edgy and corny I do like the villain. I would love if they remastered it and fixed a few of the fundamental issues while enhancing the environment. I've tried replaying it in recent years and it feels extremely stiff compared to modern shooters which is a shame.

There are a lot of small details in FarCry 2 that make it a more immersive setting imo, from the whole cynical gimmick of feeding a war economy in Africa that turns the place into shit. The risk of weapons jamming during combat especially if you're using crappy low quality guns. The more visceral self-healing animations where if you're close to death you see your guys ripping shrapnel out of himself or whatever. Driving around having to pull up a paper map that's kind of unhelpful. Also small touches like seeing the enemies trying to drag wounded comrades out of danger or just how fire spreads. Having a stable of characters you can play as and then having others from that stable as your companions during the game where they'd pop up and rescue you if you were getting wrecked. Having weapon caches all around the map where all the guns you've unlocked are on the wall and you can pick and choose what you want. Hunting for precious diamonds using a crappy bleeping detector. Playing as someone fighting malaria and having the need to find medicine hanging over you. Some of these elements appear in future games of course but don't feel as significant and don't make the same kind of impression as they do in FarCry2 or feel like an afterthought (Although of course, I played FC2 when it released and a lot of this stood out a lot more in the lesser developed fps scene of the time)

The original FarCry will always have a big place in my heart as well. I remember when it first came out and it was so impressive and it felt so liberating having those big, open, vibrant maps. I remember playing the demo, which was just the first level, over and over and over again when I was a kid. I know a lot of people think the game takes a dive in the latter half when the mutants are introduced and I get it, but I never minded them personally

I also really liked Farcry 5 tbh, it was a great setting with fun weapons and fun villains

 

[dick brain]

Far Cry.

Also Far Cry 3 was written by a cuck to be a deliberately unfun, milquetoast gotcha on stereotypical gamers, vis a vis the white savior trope and the theme of escalating violence because it makes you feel like a hero, the idea being that the player character is an unreliable narrator and the events of the game are his rationalization/justification for the violence he partakes in. Unfortunately for the writer, Michael Mando came in and stole the show; Vaas wasn't even a character in the script, Mando's performance was so compelling that they wrote him in after the fact and he's the only reason the story isn't dogshit. The writer made a big buttmad blog post about it and how they ruined his vision and how the game should have ended with Citra castrating the player for being such a chud.

You can take that however you want -- maybe you consider it an own on the writer that you're sincerely enjoying the thing he wrote to be a parody -- but either way it's an interesting lens to view the game through.

Obviously this theme would repeat with the supposed propaganda of Far Cry 5 becoming real life lolbert anthems despite the writers' utter refusal to pin the antagonists to any real world religion or ideology.

It's very funny to me that they keep trying to make mocking caricatures of conservative whites and holding them up with a sneer as if to say "This is you" and we just say "Yes".

Also Far Cry 2 is the most interesting from an artistic/analytical standpoint, it gets talked about a lot for is marriage of frustrating/unfun/ugly mechanics and visuals with the themes it handles and there's a lot of evidence that that's by design. It's more of an art piece than a game, like Spec Ops: The Line.

Basically, fuck you. 1 > 2 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 6

 

[Tablet County]

It's more of an art piece than a game, like Spec Ops: The Line.

Only fun.

 

[Syntaxion]

That's why

 

[Crypt Kicker]

Far Cry.

Also Far Cry 3 was written by a cuck to be a deliberately unfun, milquetoast gotcha on stereotypical gamers, vis a vis the white savior trope and the theme of escalating violence because it makes you feel like a hero, the idea being that the player character is an unreliable narrator and the events of the game are his rationalization/justification for the violence he partakes in. Unfortunately for the writer, Michael Mando came in and stole the show; Vaas wasn't even a character in the script, Mando's performance was so compelling that they wrote him in after the fact and he's the only reason the story isn't dogshit. The writer made a big buttmad blog post about it and how they ruined his vision and how the game should have ended with Citra castrating the player for being such a chud.

You can take that however you want -- maybe you consider it an own on the writer that you're sincerely enjoying the thing he wrote to be a parody -- but either way it's an interesting lens to view the game through.

Obviously this theme would repeat with the supposed propaganda of Far Cry 5 becoming real life lolbert anthems despite the writers' utter refusal to pin the antagonists to any real world religion or ideology.

It's very funny to me that they keep trying to make mocking caricatures of conservative whites and holding them up with a sneer as if to say "This is you" and we just say "Yes".

Also Far Cry 2 is the most interesting from an artistic/analytical standpoint, it gets talked about a lot for is marriage of frustrating/unfun/ugly mechanics and visuals with the themes it handles and there's a lot of evidence that that's by design. It's more of an art piece than a game, like Spec Ops: The Line.

Basically, fuck you. 1 > 2 > 5 > 3 > 4 > 6

I think I just enjoy the game for it's gameplay without analyzing it through a lens of politics.
Instead of seeing Far Cry 3 as a white savior, which is silly considering he's not there to save the island, he's there to save his friends, but realizes he's actually good at killing and doesn't want to go home to his normal life, I see it as the story tells it. Jason Brody is a rich spoiled kid from a cozy home loving parents and had no direction until he was thrust into a position where he felt he belonged by circumstance. A fun little vacation turned into a journey of self realization. The script could have been better though in some instances like with the stoner friend going from captive and being beaten ready to be sent on a helicopter to his new owner being sold into slavery, then immediately after being saved being like "OH COOL TATS BRO "
Was FC3 perfect? Fuck no, but it was an entertaining story. FC4 polished the gameplay but lacked in the story aspect and the characters weren't nearly as likable or memorable. Maybe that was the point of 4, that there are no good guys, considering Amita and Sabal are both pieces of shit no better than Pagan Min but Min at least had the self awareness to know he was a monster. Not like Sabal being on a moral religious high horse while condemning his people to outdated practices, or Amita throwing away the country's identity for personal gain. I don't look at 3 or 4 with the same type of political lens that you have to look at 5 with because with 5 it's too on the nose to ignore considering when it was made and why it was made.
I'm thinking that anyone saying 1 or 2 is better than any other game in the franchise is just either memberberries or contrarianism. I almost didn't add 2 in the poll because I knew that would be the case.

 

[Crypt Kicker]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=FCeEvQ68jY8
That's why

That's very nice, but what does me shooting down bushes have to do with the story?
It's like saying Red Dead 2 is better than Red Dead 1 because the horse can shit and its balls shrink in the cold mountains. Sure it's more realistic but what does that add to anything? No one has ever played Far Cries 3-6 and said "Oh there's not a different sound when I step in this bush this is terrible!"
I like the attention to detail, but it's not the be all end all of the game and wouldn't have made much of difference if it wasn't included, no one would even notice if it wasn't included at all
What I noticed from playing FC4 to FC3 is that stepping in the bushes in 4 actually hid you from enemies. In FC3 I tried dipping into bushes and the enemies automatically knew I was there even if they didn't see me go into them, whereas in 4 you can hide in them when you aren't in eyesight.

 

[LazyLizard]

Far Cry 1 has a fun shotty and Far Cry 2 has fun fire. That's all I need.

i played far cry 1 when i was a kid, i was to scared to keep playing once the monsters start appearing, my dad played through the entire game so me and a friend played the level with the tree houses above the misty forest and would dare each other to rundown into it. good times.

 

[Oliver Onions]

Far Cry 3 is the best of what I've played, overall.
Far Cry 4 handles better but the story sucks because the binary good:evil decision system is almost as bad as Fable 3.
Far Cry 5 mostly sucked but the ending was probably my favourite in the series (til they ruined it with New Dawn).
Far Cry 6 was so bad I started skipping every cutscene I could after a couple missions; all the gameplay tweaks made the game worse.

We'll probably never get Far Cry 7 now Ubisoft is circling the drain, but if we do I think they should change things up by having you play as the charismatic dictator, who gets overthrown at the start of the game then has to take back his* country, deciding along the way whether to become more benevolent or even more brutal than before.

*Sorry, I meant her country, who am I kidding.

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

the last one i beat was 2, i got up to the point where the twink player character in 3 has his gay little mushroom trip, and i can tell you without having played the rest that they're shitty games. the guns feel like nobody on the dev team has even seen one in person and the vehicles feel like i'm driving with my ass. vaas was not a fucking cool antagonist. somehow everyone fell for that little advertising trick. he shows you pictures of dead people on his phone and goes "ISNT THIS SHIT CRAZY BRO" while your twink player character's tied up and moaning.

 

[Crypt Kicker]

the last one i beat was 2, i got up to the point where the twink player character in 3 has his gay little musrhoom trip, and i can tell you without having played the rest that they're shitty games. the guns feel like nobody on the dev team has even seen one in person and the vehicles feel like i'm driving with my ass. vaas was not a fucking cool antagonist. somehow everyone fell for that little advertising trick. he shows you pictures of dead people on his phone and goes "ISNT THIS SHIT CRAZY BRO" while your twink player character's tied up and moaning.

I definitely agree on the driving part. Driving in 3 and 4 fucking sucks especially in 4 where to accelerate is just to hold the stick up the same as if you're walking instead of the right trigger or X/A button like most other games.
Far Cry 5 definitely fixed the driving mechanics

 

[break these cuffs]

I haven't got to Blood Dragon, I was more thinking of base games and not DLC but do please sell me on it. I like these games and want more of them.

It's a stand alone game that's 80s and 90s action movie schlock done to perfection in a video game. From Terminator and Predator to ninja B movies, it's got all the tropes. It's end theme song even comes from a classic so bad it's good movie, Miami Connection.

 

[🔪Cold Steel Brand Rep🔪]

This is really weird and serendipitous because I woke up this morning thinking about how more games sbould have tried to be immersive with minimum UI elements like Far Cry 2 did, and that I should play Far Cry 2 again.