War Farmers Killed 10 Cartel Members with Machetes Over Extortion Fees - "We basically had no choice but to die fighting or die from hunger," residents in Mexico told VICE News.

A grab of video footage showing local residents meeting with members of a drug gang before a violent conflict took place between the two groups in Mexico State last week.

At least 14 people were killed in a fight between members of a drug gang and local villagers last week after residents fought back against extortion demands, according to the Mexican authorities.

Ten of the people killed in Mexico state were members of the La Familia Michoacana cartel, and the rest were local farmers, Mexican authorities said. Amongst the dead was a cartel leader known as “Comandante Payaso” (Commander Clown), the alleged leader of La Familia in the region behind the rise in the extortion fee.

The clash happened on the afternoon of December 8 after members of La Familia Michoacana announced a rise in the extortion tax to the group of farmers in the small rural town of Texcaltitlán. The farmers were already each paying a Mexican peso per square meter (around $.060) to the criminal group. The cartel now wanted double, according to local news outlets.

Extortion is a major criminal market throughout Mexico, and a way that criminal groups use violence and territorial control for profit.

“We had a very bad year [of harvests] and we barely made enough money to pay the original extortion fee. With this increase we basically had no choice but to die fighting or die from hunger,” a local farmer from Texcaltitlán who asked to remain anonymous due to fear of retaliation, told VICE News in a phone interview.

On a gruesome video that spread on social media, residents and members of the drug gang can be seen arriving at the local soccer field where they both had agreed to meet to deliver the extortion money. The video shows a small group of people heavily armed with AK-47s and armored vests. Some were dressed in fake Mexican military uniforms.

After a few minutes talking, someone in the group fires a gunshot and hell breaks loose. The farmers, some of them armed with shotguns, machetes and sticks, begin to chase the alleged criminals. Some are killed with gunshots while others are hacked at with machetes.

A different video shows several charred bodies inside two white pickup trucks, allegedly members of La Familia Michoacana cartel.

“We told the Mexican army that this was going to happen because we were not going to pay anymore. We asked for their back up and no-one showed up,” the farmer told VICE News.

Commander Clown, one of the victims of the confrontation, had long been in the crosshairs of law enforcement. “[He} was a main target for us for his role in the criminal organization. We had several investigations ongoing to go after him,” said Andrés Andrade, chief of police of Mexico State.

La Familia Michoacana is a Mexican drug cartel founded in the late 1980s in the Mexican central state of Michoacán, although its presence is now mostly based in Mexico State, according to authorities.

In June 2022, eleven members of the same cartel were killed in the same town during a shootout against state police officers. The clash gained notoriety after the authorities found a spider monkey among the victims killed.

Graphic photos of the dead monkey wearing a green camouflage hoodie under a black tactical vest and a diaper were shared over social media.

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[totally not CIA agent]

They should do what Mao did to the opium addicts and dealers, frankly so should we as well.

 

[VanyaMotorbike]

The word is now that La Familia has retaliated by abducting 8 people, including two underage girls, and demanding the leaders of this attack in exchange

 

[Black Spruce]

We can legalize drugs mmmkay and it solves the problems mmmkay is simply magical thinking

We have two option. Continue to beat our heads into the wall doing the exact same thing we've done for over fifty years and continue to make no progress against drugs. Or we can decriminalize drugs and just face the reality that we're always going to have to deal with junkies. At least then we won't have Mexican cartels and nigger gangs profiting greatly off the drug trade and preying on their communities like we have now. Are drugs bad? Yup. Are drug addicts destructive? Yup. Nothing we can do about it. Just a fact of life. A way of remedying things would be for the cops to stop arresting self-defenders and setting them down a path where they will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars on legal defense, and possibly millions in a civil suit to the family of some violent methhead. That's why we're all so afraid to be around these people. Not because we can't protect ourselves. But because of what the government will do to us if we do.

Never, and if I did, I wouldn't make a habit of it. I get the feeling the same cannot be said for you.

"You aar a dwug ayadict, spwuce!"

 

[glass_houses]

We have two option. Continue to beat our heads into the wall doing the exact same thing we've done for over fifty years and continue to make no progress against drugs. Or we can decriminalize drugs and just face the reality that we're always going to have to deal with junkies. At least then we won't have Mexican cartels and nigger gangs profiting greatly off the drug trade and preying on their communities like we have now. Are drugs bad? Yup. Are drug addicts destructive? Yup. Nothing we can do about it. Just a fact of life. A way of remedying things would be for the cops to stop arresting self-defenders and setting them down a path where they will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars on legal defense, and possibly millions in a civil suit to the family of some violent methhead. That's why we're all so afraid to be around these people. Not because we can't protect ourselves. But because of what the government will do to us if we do.

"You aar a dwug ayadict, spwuce!"

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You know where else they effectively decriminalised drugs and accepted junkies as inevitable?

San Francisco.

Yeah, things are going great over there.

 

[Desumorphine]

>went in with AKs and body armor
>14 people die
>only 3 deaths are farmers

They wiped the fucking floor with them. I hope this shakes up some support from the army though because you can bet that the cartel will swing back much harder. Fear is their strongest tool so they can't afford letting that slide even if they wanted to.

 

[Snekposter]

I think a shootout always looks better if people are wearing cowboy hats.
I'll be keeping an eye on this though, to see if there are any reprisals from it.

Bullshit. I was reliably informed by Bad Company 2 that nobody goes to war in cowboy hats these days.

>went in with AKs and body armor
>14 people die
>only 3 deaths are farmers

They wiped the fucking floor with them. I hope this shakes up some support from the army though because you can bet that the cartel will swing back much harder. Fear is their strongest tool so they can't afford letting that slide even if they wanted to.

Yeah, I'm sure the Mexican Army will get on this... right after they go cash their monthly checks from the cartels. The Mexican Army has been bought off for decades. Its why Mexico had their Marines go raid the cartels for a little while until those guys started getting bought off by the cartels.

 

[Corpun]

I hope these farmers don't end up on the wrong end of a cartel execution but after this fight they probably will. Who knows, maybe the Mexican peasantry will rise up and start putting cartel members down like the animals they are.

 

[FierceBrosnan]

I hope these farmers don't end up on the wrong end of a cartel execution but after this fight they probably will. Who knows, maybe the Mexican peasantry will rise up and start putting cartel members down like the animals they are.

Honestly if they'd Zerg rush the cartels like they do the border the cartels would be wiped out in a week.

 

[Black Spruce]

You know where else they effectively decriminalised drugs and accepted junkies as inevitable?

San Francisco.

Yeah, things are going great over there.

So you can buy cocaine in wal-mart to bypass gangs and shoot aggressive junkies who try to rob you to get their next fix in San Fransisco? You know the answer to that one.

 

[glass_houses]

So you can buy cocaine in wal-mart to bypass gangs and shoot aggressive junkies who try to rob you to get their next fix in San Fransisco? You know the answer to that one.

Decriminalising drugs is like communism; great idea in theory but an almighty clusterfuck that kills a lot of people when you try to put it into practice.

Given that cartels in Mexico hold political power and are backed by Mexican service organisations, the drug trade is already essentially legal there, yet the stacks of tortured and mutilated corpses grow higher every day. I wonder why that is? In American states that have legalised the recreational consumption of marijuana, the legal plantations are dangerous as hell to work on and live around. Something is going seriously wrong there too.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

The legal weed trade in the US is completely overrun by the cartels who have been strong-arming small time White growers out of the business for almost a decade now. Surprise, surprise, it turns out being legal isn't a magical shield that somehow repels the cartels like garlic and a vampire, and there's literally nothing at all stopping them from entering the now legal drug fields as long as they can properly launder their money and have their cousin with no official ties to the gang on the paperwork. It's funny how the war on drugs was supposedly this giant failure yet the more we capitulate to decriminalization/legalization asswipes and get closer to their wetdream of legal drugs the worse things become.

 

[Black Spruce]

Decriminalising drugs is like communism; great idea in theory but an almighty clusterfuck that kills a lot of people when you try to put it into practice.

Given that cartels in Mexico hold political power and are backed by Mexican service organisations, the drug trade is already essentially legal there, yet the stacks of tortured and mutilated corpses grow higher every day. I wonder why that is? In American states that have legalised the recreational consumption of marijuana, the legal plantations are dangerous as hell to work on and live around. Something is going seriously wrong there too.

Results of the following scenarios.

Decriminalized drugs: Junkies.
Criminalized drugs: Junkies and violent gangs.

Pick your poison. Also let me know when the Mexican army stops fighting the cartels and you're able to buy cocaine in any corner store with no government regulation. Then we'll talk.

The legal weed trade in the US is completely overrun by the cartels who have been strong-arming small time White growers out of the business for almost a decade now. Surprise, surprise, it turns out being legal isn't a magical shield that somehow repels the cartels like garlic and a vampire

Wow who'd have known that if you legalize and heavily tax something so that it's more expensive than just buying from gangs and cartels, people will buy from gangs and cartels still. We have that issue here, too. Stop confusing legalizing with decriminalizing. You want these gangs going out of business? Don't ban, tax, or regulate the fuck out of drugs. I am sick of hearing people wanting to double down on the fight against drugs, when doubling down is all that's been done for the last 52 years, and the problem has only gotten worse as a result. Don't want drugs in your community? Too fucking bad. It's 100% out of the government's control. They can't even keep the shit out of prisons.

 

[The Taco Santo!]

If I'm not mistaken, this particular cartel used to set up drug rehabs and recruit their sicarios from them, which led to their rivals, the zetas I think, going into rehabs and executing all of the residents. Their leader was known as the most craziest (can't remember the Spanish phrase) and he wrote his own bible, before going on to die in an absolutely massive shootout with the Mexican Marines. The cartel pretended for a long time that he was still alive, though. I'm just going by memory here, so some of the details might be wrong.

 

[skunt]

If I'm not mistaken, this particular cartel used to set up drug rehabs and recruit their sicarios from them, which led to their rivals, the zetas I think, going into rehabs and executing all of the residents. Their leader was known as the most craziest (can't remember the Spanish phrase) and he wrote his own bible, before going on to die in an absolutely massive shootout with the Mexican Marines. The cartel pretended for a long time that he was still alive, though. I'm just going by memory here, so some of the details might be wrong.

Honestly, anyone could just make up a whole bunch of shit about cartels and there's a 50/50 chance it'd be true.

Zetas were formed from the mexican marines and were led by Z40 (morales) and he was an actual lunatic.
The craziest story about him was the story where Zetas stopped a bus, unloaded everyone. Took the woman and children aside (and raped and murdered them obviously), then had the men fight each other with sledgehammers. Whomever refused, Z40 killed them in front of everyone. Losers died, winners had the choice of joining the cartel or dying. I think it was the San Fernando massacre but no joke, it's happened a few times and it's difficult to keep track.

If you can imagine it, a mexican cartel has probably done it. Hell this one example had a monkey with a kevlar vest lol

 

[The Taco Santo!]

That guy Don Winslow's books about the cartels and the DEA are really good reading. He calls them his "Border Trilogy" books and they're awesome. He's quit writing now to be a full-time leftist tool on twitter, but his novels are really quite good.

Zetas were formed from the mexican marines and were led by Z40 (morales) and he was an actual lunatic.
The craziest story about him was the story where Zetas stopped a bus, unloaded everyone. Took the woman and children aside (and raped and murdered them obviously), then had the men fight each other with sledgehammers. Whomever refused, Z40 killed them in front of everyone. Losers died, winners had the choice of joining the cartel or dying. I think it was the San Fernando massacre but no joke, it's happened a few times and it's difficult to keep track.

I remember reading about that. It happened more than once, IIRC.

 

[VanyaMotorbike]

Honestly, anyone could just make up a whole bunch of shit about cartels and there's a 50/50 chance it'd be true.

Zetas were formed from the mexican marines and were led by Z40 (morales) and he was an actual lunatic.
The craziest story about him was the story where Zetas stopped a bus, unloaded everyone. Took the woman and children aside (and raped and murdered them obviously), then had the men fight each other with sledgehammers. Whomever refused, Z40 killed them in front of everyone. Losers died, winners had the choice of joining the cartel or dying. I think it was the San Fernando massacre but no joke, it's happened a few times and it's difficult to keep track.

If you can imagine it, a mexican cartel has probably done it. Hell this one example had a monkey with a kevlar vest lol

Well Z-40 actually came about later in the Zetas lifetime and was a guy with no military background (The original core Zetas were ex-Mexican special forces who were lured into defecting to the Gulf cartel to become an enforcement wing, and their eventual split from the Gulf cartel prompted the most violent period in cartel history as they went to war with the Gulf and also the Sinaloa cartel (And La Familia which is the cartel of this thread)). But it says something about him that he (And other members of his family like Z-42) were able to rise into a key leadership position despite not having the military background of the founding Zetas.

He is arguably the most brutal and violent cartel leader of all time. He and his family became very influential both in Mexico and the US. While Los Zetas as they once were no longer exist, one of their main splinter factions, which still today holds one of the most valuable territories in the cartel landscape (Border town Nuevo Laredo) is The Cartel del Noreste. This is essentially the Z-40/Trevino-Morales faction that formed within the Zetas (The military-trained Zetas formed their own splinter faction called Zetas Viejo Escuela (Old School Zetas)). There are rumours that Z-40 still runs the show from prison. In fact, there was a story just yesterday that Mexico's Secretary of the Interior confirmed that Z-40 was officially listed as a missing person despite the fact he was captured in 2013 and supposedly under government custody.

I read a few books about the Zetas and there is one in particular called Wolf Boys, about two Mexican-American guys who were recruited by the Zetas and worked under Z-40. They claim at one point Z-40 told them he had killed over 800 people. It was said Z-40 couldn't sleep at night unless he had killed someone that day. There is one incident where Z-40 was interrogating three guys, and the first he did was chop into the first dudes neck, reach inside and tear his heart out through the neck hole to intimidate the other two guys. But something interesting about Z-40 and his family is they got majorly into the horse racing industry on both sides of the border as a way to launder money and because of this, his family remains wealthy and influential to this day.

More accounts from Wolf Boys say that Z-40 gained a lot of admiration within the Zetas because even as an influential boss he would make himself a frontline soldier, lead raids and wouldn't hesitate to put himself in danger by being the first guy storming the building. He was also generous with his men and would reward them well if they did what was asked. Another thing, not particularly related to Z-40 but the Zetas in general, is they would train against live targets in fights to the death by pitting Zetas recruits against captives

The bus massacres you mention did happen (But these were apparently ordered by Z-3, one of the military-trained original Zetas who was also famously brutal and also rumoured to be into cannibalism. At this time the Zetas were two factions, one ran by Z-3 and one ran by Z-40), but actually the worst incident is probably the Allende massacre which it was said was authorized directly by Z-40. There is actually a Netflix show called Somos which goes over this. Basically in paranoia over a DEA operation that got exposed, the Zetas descended on the town of Allende, rounded up over 300 innocent people, entire families, killed them and burned their bodies until there was no trace.

Not a Zeta but I can also confirm there was a monkey in a bulletproof vest lol. RIP El Changuito

* sorry this post turned into a novel but Z-40 is definitely one of the most interesting and infamous cartel guys

 

[Random Internet Person]

If I'm not mistaken, this particular cartel used to set up drug rehabs and recruit their sicarios from them, which led to their rivals, the zetas I think, going into rehabs and executing all of the residents. Their leader was known as the most craziest (can't remember the Spanish phrase) and he wrote his own bible, before going on to die in an absolutely massive shootout with the Mexican Marines. The cartel pretended for a long time that he was still alive, though. I'm just going by memory here, so some of the details might be wrong.

Honestly, anyone could just make up a whole bunch of shit about cartels and there's a 50/50 chance it'd be true.

Zetas were formed from the mexican marines and were led by Z40 (morales) and he was an actual lunatic.
The craziest story about him was the story where Zetas stopped a bus, unloaded everyone. Took the woman and children aside (and raped and murdered them obviously), then had the men fight each other with sledgehammers. Whomever refused, Z40 killed them in front of everyone. Losers died, winners had the choice of joining the cartel or dying. I think it was the San Fernando massacre but no joke, it's happened a few times and it's difficult to keep track.

If you can imagine it, a mexican cartel has probably done it. Hell this one example had a monkey with a kevlar vest lol

@VanyaMotorbike if you ever what happened to the days of the Mafia, Gotti, and Goodfellas, it ain’t dead. It just moved south, way south, did a bunch of cocaine and pot laced with I don’t fucking know, and proceeded with business as usual while on the bender of all benders.

And if anyone were to survive and try to sell the film rights to their story, they’d be turned down because it’s the most unbelievable thing a producer or financier was ever told because we live in a world where Hunter S. Thompson is dead.

 

[frozen_runner]

We really need to nuke Mexico. And drive the illegals in the country into the irradiated wasteland at gunpoint.

 

[Gangstalker #32194]

A way of remedying things would be for the cops to stop arresting self-defenders and setting them down a path where they will lose hundreds of thousands of dollars on legal defense, and possibly millions in a civil suit to the family of some violent methhead. That's why we're all so afraid to be around these people. Not because we can't protect ourselves. But because of what the government will do to us if we do.

you understand the heart of the problem