Fasting

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There's a lot of woo around fasting, but even if all the ancillary benefits are BS you're still eating regulating your calories and that's good if you're trying to lose or maintain weight. Personally I just do 8-16 fasting daily because I find it way less annoying to deal with than portion control. I'm also way less tempted to cheat when my time is segmented into "eating" and "not eating", vs always having the option of grabbing a snack or something.
 
Fasting seems dumb.

Just eat a meal with alot of meat and you naturally won't feel the need to eat for a long time.

The benefits of not eating for a long time are kinda undermined by the inevitable gorging that will happen afterwards.
 
Currently doing low-carb one meal a day. Took a month to truly get used to and only feel hungry during the eating time. Starting with an eating window of 8 hours to build willpower then shrinking it down to one meal is the best way to go about it.
The benefits of not eating for a long time are kinda undermined by the inevitable gorging that will happen afterwards.
If you have discipline it's pretty easy to not do this. Especially if you're following an eating window.
 
Fasting seems dumb.

Just eat a meal with alot of meat and you naturally won't feel the need to eat for a long time.

The benefits of not eating for a long time are kinda undermined by the inevitable gorging that will happen afterwards.

You get used to it like anything else. I've been doing IF almost every day for the past four years and nothing has helped me more both with the initial 40lb weight loss and keeping it off -- basically back at my HS weight thank goodness.

There are days now where it's like 7pm and I haven't had any food for about 20 hours and I don't even notice I'm hungry. And it's almost physically impossible to eat more than 2.5K calories between 7 and bed time. Even on really fattening food like pizza and beer.

It works for many people, don't call it dumb just because you don't agree with it or think it's silly. It's just a tool like anything else. In today's hyper-food environment that is so tempting and outside what our evolutionary instincts help with (just makes us fat because we crave the high fat high calorie stuff we see constantly at the stores) it's quite useful and allows you to avoid the "grazing" that does so many diets in.
 
Fasting is a pretty decent way to lose water weight, I do a short (5-10 days) water fast every year.
It does come with some additional benefits, depending on the person but is certainly no cure for everything.
I'm thinking of starting another fast tomorrow.
 
I've been doing a lot of fasting lately. I was already practicing time-restricted eating (or intermittent fasting), although as a means of getting leaner, I've started fasting solidly for several days at a time on a regular basis, and I'm finding that it's really giving me the freedom to control my appetite in a way that I struggled to before.

Beyond the weight loss benefits, all of the research I've read on the subject suggests that there are probably anti-aging benefits as well, since fasting slows the body's metabolism, and slower metabolisms are associated with slower aging. In addition to this benefit, fasting also boosts human growth hormone, which also has anti-aging benefits.
 
I've been doing a lot of fasting lately. I was already practicing time-restricted eating (or intermittent fasting), although as a means of getting leaner, I've started fasting solidly for several days at a time on a regular basis, and I'm finding that it's really giving me the freedom to control my appetite in a way that I struggled to before.

Beyond the weight loss benefits, all of the research I've read on the subject suggests that there are probably anti-aging benefits as well, since fasting slows the body's metabolism, and slower metabolisms are associated with slower aging. In addition to this benefit, fasting also boosts human growth hormone, which also has anti-aging benefits.
You should have waited another two weeks to post this so that you could do the three year necro mark.

But yeah, good for you. I do it periodically to reduce inflammation, but that's it. Mostly just stick to a good diet. One thing it did help me do is go sober! I don't do drugs nor drink much anymore and I'm feeling happier by the day. Fasting includes abstincence from substances, so that really helped.
 
I was inspired to try fasting when I saw a church pamphlet about it. I would go to the end of the day, serve myself a Eucharist (which to me meant any type of bread and juice, because I don’t give a shit about the Rules) which amounted to a sort of light breakfast. I would do this about 25% of days.

For a while I was losing weight rapidly, and that was the motivation, it seemed better to combine this with a spiritual exercise and just make SOME days shitty instead of making every day worse. But I ran into some issues. Being too flexible with what I could eat and drink (drinking as in allowing coffees, tisanes, zero-calorie stuff) killed the spiritual angle of it and the “detox” (letting digestive system have a rest) aspect. And in order to make up for holidays when I’d go home and eat a lot more, I tried a month of rather intense fasting, including three day fasts. (Each day having its bread and juice breakfast at the end, but nothing else.) I think it stretched my patience too far, and I found my weight was converging to less fat instead of to fit, so in frustration I gave up.
 
I think it stretched my patience too far, and I found my weight was converging to less fat instead of to fit, so in frustration I gave up.
If you want fit as opposed to less fat, you need to work out. Not much, calisthenics a few times a week can harden you up decently.

Anyway, for the past week I've been doing rolling 24s. It wasn't as tough as I thought, lost seven pounds off it. Then Saturday I was at a party so I went hog fucking wild on the beer and sticking to the OMAD the next day was a nightmare. Yesterday was fine, and now I'm punishing myself with a 48 hour fast since I had to have consumed at least 2800 kcals Saturday and I have to trim somewhere.
 
Fasting is an extreme action that commonly results in extreme outcomes.

Some people get addicted to fasting and just go full-blown anorexic. Some peoples' bodies get used to not eating to the point where they fall into bad habits of forgetting (or just not bothering) to eat because they either don't feel hunger or are used to the feeling of hunger. Some people develop an eating disorder where they use fasting as self-flagellation. More often though, fasting just results in binging afterwards. Not everyone ends up doing these things, but the risk is still significant.

Eat low-cal but filling foods, eat them often, rely heavily on fiber and protein, create a routine, and you'll be fine. Fasting is bad for pretty much all of your organs anyhow, especially your intestines. If you really really need an occasional extreme period of quick-fixing for your sinful lust of Cheetos, please try consuming nothing but egg whites, cooked broccoli, calorie-free seasonings and water for a couple of days in stead of eating nothing. You'll be a bit gassy, but it's far better than the alternatives. Please choose broccoli over ass cancer and the Binge Monster.
 
If you want fit as opposed to less fat, you need to work out. Not much, calisthenics a few times a week can harden you up decently.

Anyway, for the past week I've been doing rolling 24s. It wasn't as tough as I thought, lost seven pounds off it. Then Saturday I was at a party so I went hog fucking wild on the beer and sticking to the OMAD the next day was a nightmare. Yesterday was fine, and now I'm punishing myself with a 48 hour fast since I had to have consumed at least 2800 kcals Saturday and I have to trim somewhere.
Wasnt real clear, I meant less fat, but still fat (not skinny/ideal weight)
 
Fasting is an extreme action that commonly results in extreme outcomes.
Yes. That was my plan.
Some people get addicted to fasting and just go full-blown anorexic. Some peoples' bodies get used to not eating to the point where they fall into bad habits of forgetting (or just not bothering) to eat because they either don't feel hunger or are used to the feeling of hunger. Some people develop an eating disorder where they use fasting as self-flagellation. More often though, fasting just results in binging afterwards. Not everyone ends up doing these things, but the risk is still significant.
True. What is also true is that long fasts have been done for literally milennia, mostly for religious reasons (even in the days when they didn't have vitamins). I'm not dysmorphic or anything, I'm fat as fuck and trying to drop a certain amount of weight in a certain amount of time. People in combat sports and bodybuilding do it all the time. The flagellation was a joke, I was planning on moving into 48s anyway for the autophagy.
Eat low-cal but filling foods, eat them often, rely heavily on fiber and protein, create a routine, and you'll be fine. Fasting is bad for pretty much all of your organs anyhow, especially your intestines. If you really really need an occasional extreme period of quick-fixing for your sinful lust of Cheetos, please try consuming nothing but egg whites, cooked broccoli, calorie-free seasonings and water for a couple of days in stead of eating nothing. You'll be a bit gassy, but it's far better than the alternatives. Please choose broccoli over ass cancer and the Binge Monster.
Well, I do consume water because it's necessary to survive. My digestion was already screwed up from years of overeating. Binging can be dealt with with self control and planning your meal beforehand (easy since...you know you're only having one anyway). Ass cancer aside, long fasting has also been linked to lower cancer risks across the board from autophagy because it gets your body to clean up dangerous misfolded proteins and cells that lead to cancer. This also helps in slowing down aging, at least according to research done in 2018.
 
What is also true is that long fasts have been done for literally milennia, mostly for religious reasons (even in the days when they didn't have vitamins).
I don't think starving, desert-dwelling, Bronze Age goatfuckers are the best source for health tips, and neither is anyone who believes in "cleanses" that aren't the racial kind. If you treat your liver well, it will treat you well. It's also those insane Women's World magazines that push tons of anti-aging pseudo-science that's not to be trusted because they're constantly making things up out of thin air to sell those magazines. Please have at least something moving along in your intestines consistently in stead of buying into noble savage and desperate middle-aged woman mumbo jumbo. I promise that you'll still drop weight like crazy even if you eat three pounds of broccoli and egg whites in one day.
 
I don't think starving, desert-dwelling, Bronze Age goatfuckers are the best source for health tips, and neither is anyone who believes in "cleanses" that aren't the racial kind. If you treat your liver well, it will treat you well. It's also those insane Women's World magazines that push tons of anti-aging pseudo-science that's not to be trusted because they're constantly making things up out of thin air to sell those magazines. Please have at least something moving along in your intestines consistently in stead of buying into noble savage and desperate middle-aged woman mumbo jumbo. I promise that you'll still drop weight like crazy even if you eat three pounds of broccoli and egg whites in one day.
Honestly it's not even effective for dropping weight. I just like going a few days here and there because I feel a bit cleaner on the inside afterwards. Otherwise I just try to eat right.
 
I don't think starving, desert-dwelling, Bronze Age goatfuckers are the best source for health tips, and neither is anyone who believes in "cleanses" that aren't the racial kind.
Dangerously based, but it wasn't just the Bronze Age goatfuckers. Fasting was recorded in Europe about the time Christianity came, and Chinese and Japanese cultures did it as well. In fact, most armies, even in the modern day, eat meals every two days when they're on campaign. Sure, extreme example but war fighting burns massive amounts of calories and if they can do OMAD and make it through a day's march it leads me to believe it's not as dangerous as we've been told it is for years. Maybe it was superstitious bullshit, but considering starving peasants in the Dark Ages could fast for a week and not keel over dead until the end of their life expectancy I'm sure my overfed ass will be fine.
If you treat your liver well, it will treat you well. It's also those insane Women's World magazines that push tons of anti-aging pseudo-science that's not to be trusted because they're constantly making things up out of thin air to sell those magazines.
Autophagy pulls dead cells from the liver to help it work more efficiently, so I'd say I'm doing okay. I'm not totally convinced on the anti-aging aspect, but lowering my risk of cancer and Parkinson's disease sounded like a good deal.
Please have at least something moving along in your intestines consistently in stead of buying into noble savage and desperate middle-aged woman mumbo jumbo.
How dare you, I never listened to a desperate middle-aged woman before in my life! My mother can attest to that! Besides, I do constantly have something moving through: water, tea, or snake juice (need to keep up the salt).
I promise that you'll still drop weight like crazy even if you eat three pounds of broccoli and egg whites in one day.
Oh, I believe you. But it's cheaper not to. This is an economic decision as well: price of food is really high, so I buy less food. Eggs are even getting ridiculous! Plus it's actually really convenient. I don't have to worry about what I'm going to eat at work or having to get processed crap at a drive-thru if I'm too busy to cook one day and I'm out of leftovers and canned tuna. I'll probably go back to eating one meal a day after it's complete/ after I fail, I'll see how I feel. Once I hit my goal I'll count calories and eat below maintenance again. I don't think fasting's a lifestyle unlike what those autists on /fit/ would have you believe, it's an extreme temporary diet to produce an extreme result, like you said.
 
Dangerously based, but it wasn't just the Bronze Age goatfuckers. Fasting was recorded in Europe about the time Christianity came, and Chinese and Japanese cultures did it as well. In fact, most armies, even in the modern day, eat meals every two days when they're on campaign. Sure, extreme example but war fighting burns massive amounts of calories and if they can do OMAD and make it through a day's march it leads me to believe it's not as dangerous as we've been told it is for years. Maybe it was superstitious bullshit, but considering starving peasants in the Dark Ages could fast for a week and not keel over dead until the end of their life expectancy I'm sure my overfed ass will be fine.

Autophagy pulls dead cells from the liver to help it work more efficiently, so I'd say I'm doing okay. I'm not totally convinced on the anti-aging aspect, but lowering my risk of cancer and Parkinson's disease sounded like a good deal.

How dare you, I never listened to a desperate middle-aged woman before in my life! My mother can attest to that! Besides, I do constantly have something moving through: water, tea, or snake juice (need to keep up the salt).

Oh, I believe you. But it's cheaper not to. This is an economic decision as well: price of food is really high, so I buy less food. Eggs are even getting ridiculous! Plus it's actually really convenient. I don't have to worry about what I'm going to eat at work or having to get processed crap at a drive-thru if I'm too busy to cook one day and I'm out of leftovers and canned tuna. I'll probably go back to eating one meal a day after it's complete/ after I fail, I'll see how I feel. Once I hit my goal I'll count calories and eat below maintenance again. I don't think fasting's a lifestyle unlike what those autists on /fit/ would have you believe, it's an extreme temporary diet to produce an extreme result, like you said.
The American Indian also practiced fasting, maybe more as a matter of necessity. Festivals of gorging (that contributed to Southern “big eating”) followed by periods of low calorie or now calorie diets.

Feast and famine cycle, basically.
 
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