Favourite "Old Internet" stuff - Let's reminisce about the Wild West days

Flash dressup games, I would sit there for hours on my dads old work computer switching out clothes in different games and writing down the "stories" for each clothes on pen and paper. I also miss early Youtube...
Did anyone else use xat? I remember trying to act older and cool or something to fit in with a roleplay group. Got in contact with another member years later and she said "oh we were all pretending to be 15 (or that kind of age)"
It's not internet but I miss my shitty edutainment games. And I remember using an LCD on that computer for the first time and I was blown away by the colours and it being a rectangle.
 
I miss people actually being positive
I don't know what the fuck happened between the 2000s and now for bitter cynicism to become so viciously widespread that it's basically the only attitude you're allowed to have in some places, but it's exhausting and I hate it. Healthy conversation is impossible because some asshole will always interrupt and doompost or the conversation will inevitably derail, usually due to some retarded idpol/regpol shit that's unrelated to the original thing or fights over what version of something is better.
Fully willing to believe that this is just a result of me being in bad places with bad attitudes and having my perspective skewed, but I really don't know if that's the case considering that i've seen my god damned dad adopt the same mindset I see from bitter conspiracy theorists on BitChute and shit, regardless of the fact that he's hardly ever left Facebook and mostly uses it for memes and cat pictures.

Am I just delusional? Or is the internet really much more bitter and hostile than it used to be?
 
I miss people actually being positive
I don't know what the fuck happened between the 2000s and now for bitter cynicism to become so viciously widespread that it's basically the only attitude you're allowed to have in some places, but it's exhausting and I hate it. Healthy conversation is impossible because some asshole will always interrupt and doompost or the conversation will inevitably derail, usually due to some retarded idpol/regpol shit that's unrelated to the original thing or fights over what version of something is better.
Fully willing to believe that this is just a result of me being in bad places with bad attitudes and having my perspective skewed, but I really don't know if that's the case considering that i've seen my god damned dad adopt the same mindset I see from bitter conspiracy theorists on BitChute and shit, regardless of the fact that he's hardly ever left Facebook and mostly uses it for memes and cat pictures.

Am I just delusional? Or is the internet really much more bitter and hostile than it used to be?
You're absolutely not the only one. I'm in the same boat as you.

I'm wondering what it'd take to return the internet to those days. Obviously we need it to be much less a part of mainstream normie life and vice-versa. But can it actually happen? I keep thinking maybe AI-everything, twitter dying, other things, or some combination thereof can finally make the social media aspect of the net collapse and much of the corporate centralizing of it go down as well. Not entirely, sadly - you can't unmake concepts once they've been made, like bots or conglomerated social sites in general - but it'd be nice to have a lot more sites dedicated to specific communities or hobbies around so everyone has their preferred niche safe and sound from being invaded or spilled into.

Everyone's gotta get offline a lot more and remember the average person in the reality may still be dumb as a stump, but they're a lot more decent than your average person ONline. Because the real world has consequences and people can see each other as fellow, well, people and so it begats both pragmatic teamwork and human empathy alike.
 
In the early 2000’s I used to love playing shitty old free Korean mmo grinders. I wasn’t allowed to play subscription based mmos because my parents didn’t like the idea of paying a monthly fee on a credit card so I pretty much dove into whatever free to play game I could find. Albinoblacksheep was a lot of fun too, I especially loved the surreal foreign flash videos on that site.

I also miss forums for reasons stated in this thread. Ironically people were more social on forums than on social media. You were encouraged to actually contribute to discussions and topic threads could last years. Now topics on social media get abandoned after a day or so. Also I loved how the same fandom could have multiple forums and each had their own unique “culture,” rules, memes, and attitudes. If you hated one forum in a fandom there was usually another one that suited your needs better. There were also rivalries between multiple boards in the same fandom and it was fun to watch everyone from one community openly shit talk people from another.

Also I kind of miss lolrandum humor my friends and I were into back when we were all teenagers. It was cringe but it was wholesome cringe. I’d take that atmosphere over how teenagers act online now. And is it me or were memes back in the day, for a back of a better term, wholesome?

Deviantart was another fun site back in the 2000’s mostly because of all the drama artists generated that got catalogued on Encyclopedia Dramatica. Old school DA drama was the best and I still have fond memories of the tic tac thief, snapesnogger, jark getting fired, and the lolcows of the complaints board. Also some dude who faked dying from cancer and got found out. Then you had the DA snowflakes who went to conceptart.org and tried to shill their art only to run back crying from getting criticism by the professional artists there.

I also have fond memories of Neopets and other pet sites. I remember when Subeta made a longcat item in the game’s shop and 4channers got so pissed off that they hacked and raided the place.

There really was something special about the wild west days of the internet. Even the drama back then was better because it was mostly from people being dumb and egotistical instead of identity politics like today.
 
I miss people actually being positive
I don't know what the fuck happened between the 2000s and now for bitter cynicism to become so viciously widespread that it's basically the only attitude you're allowed to have in some places, but it's exhausting and I hate it. Healthy conversation is impossible because some asshole will always interrupt and doompost or the conversation will inevitably derail, usually due to some retarded idpol/regpol shit that's unrelated to the original thing or fights over what version of something is better.
Fully willing to believe that this is just a result of me being in bad places with bad attitudes and having my perspective skewed, but I really don't know if that's the case considering that i've seen my god damned dad adopt the same mindset I see from bitter conspiracy theorists on BitChute and shit, regardless of the fact that he's hardly ever left Facebook and mostly uses it for memes and cat pictures.

Am I just delusional? Or is the internet really much more bitter and hostile than it used to be?
Just look at the old 4chan memes, its all playful inoffensive stuff. Everyone's too bitter now

I keep thinking maybe AI-everything, twitter dying, other things, or some combination thereof can finally make the social media aspect of the net collapse and much of the corporate centralizing of it go down as well
nah, it won't collapse , it'll just be that shitty and it will get much worse. A simulation where everything is fake and everything except ads are censored is millions of bug people's biggest dream come true.
 
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don't even @ me unless your windows media player looks like this

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I remember I had all sorts of crazy WMP skins, I used a programme called windowsblinds or something to change how my windows xp looked. Remember when sites would be like "Download our WMP skin" or "download our windows backgrounds/Screensavers", people won't believe you if you told them. This was just normal back then.
 
I am echoing the others from this thread, but I am in line with missing the old animators from the way back when days. Well, at least if you count the dying days of the wild west of 2007-2009. Maybe up to 2014 if we really want to stretch it.

While I missed getting on the boat early, Newgrounds in the mid-late 2000s was a blast to surf. A lot the stuff they had there at the time was quite Franky shit, but for all of that you had a few diamonds in the rough that made it a joy to browse.

I.E; Bowser's Kingdom. I only ever found out about the series *after* it had discontinued, but it was still a joy to behold nonetheless.


And the Newgrounds link: Bowser's Kingdom: Episode 1

Four Swords Misadventure was also a blast, considering that Four Swords was one of my first introductions to the Legend of Zelda franchise on a console, it was fun to see how these four Links played with their hijinks and what not while making a merry mess of things.

4 Swords Misadventures 4

This video oozes midlate 2000s, and I love it, and so does the rest of the series.
Surprisingly enough, the last video for the series was posted back in 2016, which at that point... Well, Mario Bros Z was already dead in the water at that point, so it's shocking this series went on for so long.
Supposedly, HadokenDude may be making a comeback according to this blogpost, but considering his age and everything else, I doubt anything will come of it. Even if it did, I bet it'll burn out quickly and fail to adapt to the changing times. Or if it did... Jeez, it'd probably be better for this series to stay dead than to warp and contort itself to whatever YouTube's bullshit is at the given day.

About the only thing of note I can contribute at the top of my head are those old, gloriously shit AMVs. You know the ones, the Linkin Park CRAAAAAAWLING IN MAH SKIIIIIN, I'm Blue, My Sanctuary, and stuff of that nature. That was my shit back in the day, and I still long for it considering what bland, mainstream garbage that YouTube peddles nowadays. I mean, it isn't like the AMVs of old, or so the old timers tell me, but there was a hell of a lot more soul in the stuff made with those vids with only Windows Movie Maker, a ripped MP3, and a 360p vid as the end result with copyrighted music that may or may not have slick editing to it for your favorite franchise/anime/whatever.

I have a playlist of the stuff from one of my old accounts, but...

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Out of fifty five vids, that isn't horrible. But all the relevant old AMVs that I wanted are just *gone* man.

My loathing for YouTube at this point is but of cold apathy. But ever now and then, when you come across shit like this without even telling you which vids they were, just barely out of reach in your memory, it boils my piss. Supposedly, there was some addon or some such thing out there in the wild that could call up the URL and fetch the video title, if nothing else, but I lost track of it. God, I'd kill for something like that just to know what was lost. YouTube is just plain shit for any archival purposes, as I have had to learn the hard way over the years. Been trying to build up some form of archive with portable SSDs as a stopgap with the hope of moving up to some proper long term media storage that's resiliant to things like bitrot and the like, but that's a long time coming.

Coincidentally, I did managed to unearth many of my old bookmarks from an XP machine that was active all the way up to 2011, so I have at least an inkling of what some of the titles I browsed back then were. But alas, every third to fifth video just leads up to fucking nothing.

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It's quaint at least, to see what my browsing habits were at the time, and what YouTube was as an indication of my mind back then. Lot of religious bull, proto reddit atheist R-tards, fan videos galore, plenty of skits, YouTube documentaries, history stuff like this interview...


Shockingly, this video managed to remain on YouTube despite the content. It might be tame to some, but I have no doubt YouTube will purge it given enough time.
It was stuff like this that made YouTube special. I remember this being one of the first YouTube videos I ever watched, and I distinctly remember it appearing in the front page at the time. You don't get this sort of stuff in trending anymore, period. If anyone has the extra hard drive space, I would *highly* recommend you archive his channel. It's a treat, despite being from an old, dead veteran.

And something that might be particularly relevant in these trying times is Great Depression Cooking.


This video, and the others like it, are just plain wholesome. Again, you don't get these sorts of vids much anymore. At least, not without all the sponsorship, modern YouTube infested bullshit trying to appeal to whatever algorithmic monster is in vogue at the time. Early Youtube was something else.

One of the other magical things of the time was the music scene for video games at the time.

I.E: Like so from this deleted video. Thank God someone managed to archive this one. Bask in it, that old YouTube aesthetic. Behold, how those related videos are actually relevant.

(Coincidentally, I did managed to find the channel is still active, with an "updated" video for the theremin-... Holy shit, he actually brought it back.)


(Well, that's bloody wonderful. Just wait till you see his excuse for originally purging it.)

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(I honestly have no idea why people do this. No earthly idea. Even with his excuse, I still do not understand.)



I know I am preaching to the choir here, but for anyone that browsed YouTube after 2011 to 2014, you missed out. There was all sorts of just plain shit back in the day for the platform, but at least isn't whatever targeted bull we get nowadays. People just getting into YouTube and the like just don't know any better or have any chance of knowing so, not unless they managed to somehow stumble upon some nostalgia video giving a glimpse of the times. Even then, it doesn't account for actually experiencing the site itself as it was, seeing as many of those videos are now lost to us.

I.E: Experiencing your first shit AMV in glorious 360p quality.

Behold, your pre-tween or whatever video from the bygone days of 2007, featuring My Sanctuary!

Or at least, it would if the video hadn't been purged like so many others of the time. Shopro was quite merciless to such vids. Supposedly, the archive has the video, but for whatever reason, it will not allow access. A pity, seeing as I'd like to archive this just to preserve what AMVs were like back in the day, even if they leave something to be desired in the modern eye. I'd even be content just getting the raw video file, since it would be a simple matter of ripping an existing soundtrack and slotting it in. But alas, it is not to be.

And here's a few more miscellaneous videos from my old bookmarks.


(This video was both utterly naive and prophetic at the same time. But even back then, the writing was on the wall far back into 2008-2009. Most of us just didn't know how bad it would get until it crept right on top of us bit by bit.)




(Note: YouTube's compression algorithm was changed sometime back in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Some of the videos from back then are unaffected, but it seems for videos like this, a video that was already compressed by the YouTube compression algorithm of back then was compressed even further when it was updated sometime in the early 2010s. These videos did *not* look this horrible, even back then. Some were shite, but YouTube can be blamed for the quality of some of these old videos being the way they are.)

That's all I have about to post for the time being. I might revisit and post a few more choice videos from the time. If any of you still have your old bookmarks, run through them and archive whatever is still left standing. Post them here, so we may share in this nostalgia together. Their memories may die one day, but we can keep the fire going for a little longer.
 
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@Brabbit Narp I found Clara's Kitchen not long before she died. Every now and again I go back and watch a video or two. It does my black, shriveled heart good to know that the wonderful lady's soul is still with us.

I was talking about an old online game called Pony Stars, and research lead me to find discover that the parent game website, Pony Valley, is still up but inaccessible as it was run on Flash. I decided to try DL Flash Browser to see what would happen.

The site is still working!

Most of the functionality is gone, but I can still visit and play dress up with my ponies! I suspect that this is deliberate. Many of the special traits and costumes cost real money, so Feerik (the game owners) have probably left it up to cover themselves legally in case someone wants their money back. Interestingly, the copyright on the entry page has been updated to 2023.
 
don't even @ me unless your windows media player looks like this

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I remember I had all sorts of crazy WMP skins, I used a programme called windowsblinds or something to change how my windows xp looked. Remember when sites would be like "Download our WMP skin" or "download our windows backgrounds/Screensavers", people won't believe you if you told them. This was just normal back then.
you can do so again thanks to the internet archive
https://archive.org/details/windowsmediaplayerskinscollection
or go to their site and donwload exactly which ones what you want instead of the whole package
https://www.theskinsfactory.com/wmpdesign2
 
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I haven't seen a mention of VGDC videos (I could've missed em), but I used to watch the shit out of things like Rise of the Mushroom Kingdom on my days off. RIP Randy Solem though
 
Remember Joe Cartoon? I still have that stupid "Don't step on my toad" song stuck in my head after 18 years. Tourettes guy also. Albino black sheep...

I also remember I had a Diablo 2 character called Meatspin at one point, D2 is still the best arpg ever. Online Neverwinter Nights was honestly amazing but mostly dead now, Unreal and UT2004 modding scenes were legendary, Guild wars 1..I met my first girlfriend on Guild wars in 2006. (she was borderline and I have still not recovered, dont smoke weed from xyz, dont take pussy from Shing Jei arena pvp, are you listening to me son?)
 
Scratch. Psuedo-coding program that had a website where you could share your creations and interact with other fellow autistics.

I was but a wee lad whose Mother hated those damn dirty cursing and gore filled flash games, but I was allowed to fool around on Scratch because it was MIT based and was totally gonna teach me coding.

I did make some terrible attempts at animations and games, but I recalled having a lot of fun with it, but eventually I just plain aged out of it.

Nowadays it's been pozzed to shit and made fully online, I recall one of the last times I ever peeked back there, the top projects were all pride related crap, and all of the old shit was broken due to the engine changing several times.
 
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