FB 1/15 - Chris has something important to share of importance

[A Ghost]

He seems to really enjoy shopping in person too, much like the people who eat to feel happy do. I think it gives him that high that little kids in a toy store get when their parents let them spend their own money in there.

well his mom is a horder he probable thinks he can buy happiness or he just enjoys spending tax payers money earthier way

 

[Cwksand]

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Do we have some reason to think there's a restraining order? There hasn't even been an arraignment.



He might have gotten lucky. Considering Chris hasn't even been arraigned yet, the prosecutor could add charges.



Do we know he has one yet? The public case information site says "P/D" for his attorney, but that may be just pro forma. It doesn't indicate anyone has even met Chris, much less made an appearance in his case.

Another thing. Apparently, in Virginia, a grand jury is required to indict for any charges where a prison sentence (a year or more of incarceration) is on the table. I believe that is why the statute he is being charged under lists penalties as "For Class 6 felonies, a term of imprisonment of not less than one year nor more than five years, or in the discretion of the jury or the court trying the case without a jury, confinement in jail for not more than 12 months and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both."

My guess is that while an indicted defendant would be subject to either set of penalties, but that without a grand jury, the court could only sentence to "not more than 12 months." So my guess is that if we don't see any kind of grand jury being involved, Chris is not looking at one to five years, but at most 12 months. I'll look into that a bit more and make a separate post whether I'm right or wrong.

(A state grand jury of this sort is often not a separate grand jury convened solely for one case, but a grand jury at the county court level that hears a bunch of cases in pretty rapid-fire fashion.)

most retail stores have online stores the cards would be valid for

 

[AnOminous]

So my guess is that if we don't see any kind of grand jury being involved, Chris is not looking at one to five years, but at most 12 months. I'll look into that a bit more and make a separate post whether I'm right or wrong.

(A state grand jury of this sort is often not a separate grand jury convened solely for one case, but a grand jury at the county court level that hears a bunch of cases in pretty rapid-fire fashion.)

Okay. The reason for the two sets of penalties is that Class 5 and 6 felonies in Virginia are what is known as "wobblers." That is, depending on how they are charged and how they are dealt with in sentencing, the penalty can either be that for a felony or a misdemeanor. The second "no more than 12 months" penalty is if it is punished as a misdemeanor.

Virginia's constitutional requirement of a grand jury indictment for a crime carrying a punishment of a year or more would seem to indicate the lack of a true bill by a grand jury would make it certain the defendant faces no more than 12 months, but I'm not sure that the converse is true, i.e. that a grand jury indictment would mean he actually does face more than a year.

My conclusion is that if there is no grand jury, Chris faces only misdemeanor penalties.

Both the preliminary hearing and grand jury can be waived, but if they are, there should be a notation on the docket denoting that fact.

 

[Damocles_Sword]

Why are there two gamestops less than a mile from each other? (The one Chris refers to as Rio gamestop and the Fashion Square gamestop.)

having a full-size game stop outside a mall where there's a small one is a common practice, I've noticed this in every city I've lived in

 

[spehgeddaboudit]

I can't remember which topic it was in but someone dug up an old pic of Chris's room and his games are organized on shelves exactly like if he were in a store. Chris definitely seems to get some sort of fulfillment from shopping considering it seems to be one of the only activities he shows a passion for. I think beyond the obvious thrill he gets from getting new toys, Chris likes going shopping because it's an endeavor that allows him some form of non-Barb human contact. He tends to create relationships with the various workers at stores due to them being the only ones who acknowledge him. God, that is depressing.

Substitute old people for Chris and shopping on the phone rather than shopping in person, and you have QVC's entire business model. Really, Barb's situation isn't unique, she's just more interested in Goodwill crap than juicers and Moissanite costume jewelry.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

Chris is the only person I've ever known to have a video game shop in his contact list. Maybe if he worked for one of
them it'd be understandable but we all know that'll never
happen.

I've done that when I'm looking for relatively rare stuff. Eternal Darkness is a bitch to find.

 

[KaiserC]

...and how exactly would Chris be contacted by one of the Gamestop stores not related to his macing at the Fashion Square Mall? Did he hand them his phone number when he vandalized their stores?

You jest, but I wouldn't be surprised if each of those stupid fake covers had his address and phone number in the back, just in case an 18-(current age) boyfriend-free woman feels interested to talk about Sonic's arms.

 

[Poor Choices]

Even he's not that stupid. It's probably just that he buys so much shit from them, or he got the numbers out of the yellow pages and wanted to have something in his contact list.

Well from when people were calling the Game Stops an employee told them at another location where the pepper spray kerfuffle didn't happen that they had been warned Christian Chandler maced somebody. Maybe he buys enough from them to be noticed but likely it's because he's one of those customers who they all know unfortunately well.

 

[IncinerateChicken]

I have a local Video Game retailer on my contact list, but that's mostly for service things and repairs.



Do you think that Chris expected to actually be arrested over the Blue Arms incident, or do you think he just thought that he felt it was so critical that action had to be taken? There was a point I used to be able to read Chris' behavior well, and then he goes and does something like DUN KAWL ENNYBODY.

I have no idea. Five years ago I would have said it was just for attention, but he's become so much more unstable and unpredictable...

I mean, he was always unpredictable, but he was predictably unpredictable. FLYING ELEPHANTS didn't truly surprise anyone, hard though they laughed.

Personally, I don't think he understands the concept of accountability. He kinda knows it's wrong to run around macing people, but he thinks that if he apologizes he'll get off scot-free.

Well from when people were calling the Game Stops an employee told them at another location where the pepper spray kerfuffle didn't happen that they had been warned Christian Chandler maced somebody. Maybe he buys enough from them to be noticed but likely it's because he's one of those customers who they all know unfortunately well.

I suspect he buys enough vidya shit that all the stores in the area are familiar with him. It's not as if he's easy to forget.

 

[stets]

Why are there two gamestops less than a mile from each other? (The one Chris refers to as Rio gamestop and the Fashion Square gamestop.)

You have to think of Gamestop as a corporation that wants to make money in any way possible, whether it's through selling games or some other method.

When you have as many locations as Gamestop does, you are almost in the real estate business as much as you are in the game retailing business. If you are a Gamestop real estate employee and you see a prime location available at a good rate with a long term lease and the right to sublease, then you're going to try to snatch it up. This may be because you anticipate economic growth in the area, you plan on moving stores, or you think you may be able to sublease it for a greater amount then what you are paying the landlord.

 

[Optimus Prime]

There are plenty of people "with a mental illness" who have never been adjudicated as such or committed to a mental institution, and so far as I know, Chris is one of those.

I know Chris had the psych eval after the Game Place incident, but I have started wondering how much of his behavior can really be considered mental illness at this point instead of him just really being an uneducated (the fact he has a goddamn degree, having taken over twice as many years to get it, notwithstanding since he thinks the burned docs were literally reused for some kid's homework in the present day), coddled-to-hell-and-back manchild who was shielded from the realities of modern civilization far too long, much less meaningful interaction with anybody who truly cared about him since it is suggested his own parents went to the lengths they did to deny him the help he needed partially because of the shame of having a slow-in-da-mind child...during their generation's heyday and not that of the 80's.

Really, Chris just needs to be removed from the toxic home life that comes with being attached to Barb by a chain and put into a home where all the major decisions in his life are made by social workers who actually give half a shit about his problems. Really, removing Chris from having too much freedom as he does now probably would be the best for his continued existence.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

So, two things about the court stuff:

From looking at the Albemarle District Court website (I searched common surnames to see if there were any other illegal release of gas cases*), you can see that they do refer felonies up to the grand jury. That court sees mostly traffic and petty larceny, but a couple of armed robbery and major fraud cases turned up in the searches I did. The other Class 6 felonies I saw were financial (shoplifting over $200, for example) and were referred up to the grand jury. They also seem to have convicted people of felonies, according to their own records, but maybe that's a glitch.

The complainant listed on Chris's case is a Charlottesville police officer. He is not the GameStop pepper sprayee.

*There were not. However, the good people of Albemarle county seem to be absolutely horrendous drivers. And one dude had 7 DUIs in like 2 years.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

It's an obvious thing to say, but he's in big trouble. Supposing this goes to the grand jury, it means there will be another delay before judgement day. Chris will likely take this delay to mean that he is winning or has won the court case. Remember, he thought that Snyder was going to be punished at HIS court hearing. It will also give him more free time to cause trouble and get arrested in the interim. He desperately needs to go to jail quickly, so that he doesn't have time to get into much worse trouble. But the only goddam thing he cares about right now is blue arms on Sonic the Hedgehog, law enforcement be damned.

 

[IncinerateChicken]

It's an obvious thing to say, but he's in big trouble. Supposing this goes to the grand jury, it means there will be another delay before judgement day. Chris will likely take this delay to mean that he is winning or has won the court case. Remember, he thought that Snyder was going to be punished at HIS court hearing. It will also give him more free time to cause trouble and get arrested in the interim. He desperately needs to go to jail quickly, so that he doesn't have time to get into much worse trouble. But the only goddam thing he cares about right now is blue arms on Sonic the Hedgehog, law enforcement be damned.

His mind will turn to other things after he gets convicted. Because he will be convicted.

 

[loudnoises]

I don't know what type of phone Chris has but it looks like the times that GameStop called were at 12:20am and 12:31am on December 30. I am assuming that the store is not open at such a late/early hour so my theory is that his phone was turned off when they did call (before any court order was in place) and just showed up at the time his phone was turned on.

A smart person would listen to, save and record the voice mails. Especially if they could arguably be considered harassment and were from an actual GameStop employee. Unfortunately for Chris, he is not smart. I feel sorry for any lawyer who has to work this defence case; I feel more sorry for the legal assistant said lawyer finally dumps this matter on after getting fed up with these "delightful clients"

 

[SOINCHU]

I know Chris had the psych eval after the Game Place incident, but I have started wondering how much of his behavior can really be considered mental illness at this point instead of him just really being an uneducated (the fact he has a goddamn degree, having taken over twice as many years to get it, notwithstanding since he thinks the burned docs were literally reused for some kid's homework in the present day), coddled-to-hell-and-back manchild who was shielded from the realities of modern civilization far too long, much less meaningful interaction with anybody who truly cared about him since it is suggested his own parents went to the lengths they did to deny him the help he needed partially because of the shame of having a slow-in-da-mind child...during their generation's heyday and not that of the 80's.

Really, Chris just needs to be removed from the toxic home life that comes with being attached to Barb by a chain and put into a home where all the major decisions in his life are made by social workers who actually give half a shit about his problems. Really, removing Chris from having too much freedom as he does now probably would be the best for his continued existence.

Couldn't agree more. Though I would add that all the factors you mentioned are also muddled/made worse by his Autism. Which once again, I think he's far more autistic than he or Barb let on and as you said they did all they could to prevent him from getting help with that.

 

[bacterium]

I don't know what type of phone Chris has but it looks like the times that GameStop called were at 12:20am and 12:31am on December 30. I am assuming that the store is not open at such a late/early hour so my theory is that his phone was turned off when they did call (before any court order was in place) and just showed up at the time his phone was turned on.

A smart person would listen to, save and record the voice mails. Especially if they could arguably be considered harassment and were from an actual GameStop employee. Unfortunately for Chris, he is not smart. I feel sorry for any lawyer who has to work this defence case; I feel more sorry for the legal assistant said lawyer finally dumps this matter on after getting fed up with these "delightful clients"

Pretty sure he has an iPhone, and someone who has one can correct me if I am wrong, but I think that is indicating the length of the messages as 20 seconds and 31 seconds

 

[stets]

Have we really gone nine pages without someone mentioning that Gamestop made a couple of phone calls after the mayor of CWCville proclaimed "Don't call anyone?"

 

[IncinerateChicken]

Have we really gone nine pages without someone mentioning that Gamestop made a couple of phone calls after the mayor of CWCville proclaimed "Don't call anyone?"

It's like they don't even respect his office as Ruler of Electric Hedgehog Pok'emon.

 

[Long Sun]

The GameStop is a store, not a person. They don't need to get a restraining order. They can just tell him to stay the fuck out of their establishment and he is legally obliged to.
.

The court can( in many place not sure about Virgina) put someone on order not to go somewhere because they have been cause issues at that location. It would still be trespassing to be there without the court order but with a court order they can be charged with the breach