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serdog said:
The court can( in many place not sure about Virgina) put someone on order not to go somewhere because they have been cause issues at that location. It would still be trespassing to be there without the court order but with a court order they can be charged with the breach
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Even if he hasn't been banned from the GameStop by court order, they have certainly permanently banned him, and I would be very surprised if he hasn't been banned from the whole chain. If he returns, it could be considered Criminal Trespass. While that might be very hard to make stick as anything more than a ticket, it could be enough to get him picked up by the police. And I guarantee you, two of the terms of his bail are A, don't go back to the place where you maced anyone and B, don't get arrested again.

Basically if Chris goes back there, the pepper spray could wind up not mattering, he might wind up in jail just from being in breach of the bail
 
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Chris said that not only was he banned from setting foot in any local GameStop, but also forbidden from contacting any of the company's employees. The former could be explained away as a simple ban, but the latter more strongly suggests a restraining order. I guess the judge probably saw that Chris had a history of this, and decided to just slap him with the order as part of his bail conditions (unlike 28 October 2011, where Snyder had to go to court and specifically request one).
 
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I guess the judge probably saw that Chris had a history of this, and decided to just slap him with the order as part of his bail conditions (unlike 28 October 2011, where Snyder had to go to court and specifically request one).
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Sounds entirely possible. It's also possible the judge just orally told him to stay away. In either case, though, his bail could be revoked if he did persist in trespassing at GameStop and/or harassing its employees. I think the Wal-Mart incident(s?) would qualify, too.
 
AnOminous said:
Sounds entirely possible. It's also possible the judge just orally told him to stay away. In either case, though, his bail could be revoked if he did persist in trespassing at GameStop and/or harassing its employees. I think the Wal-Mart incident(s?) would qualify, too.
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True. Most of the time, breaching a restraining order involves comitting another crime. Harrassment, trespassing etc. The restraining order just formalizes it and makes it more straightforward to pursue charges.

If Chris contacted GameStop people he might be guilty of breaching a bail condition. If he persisted any longer after a request to stop he would be guilty of harassment. The judge must have explained that to him, whether or not he made a formal order.

And I actually don't think Chris deserves a restraining order. There is no pattern of stalking or harrassment. We have no reason to believe he has contacted any of these people.

Restraining orders are granted as a remedy for repeated minor problems as opposed to a single major incident. It's a way for the state to say "yeah, you haven't really done anything particularly serious, but you still have to cut that shit out." Doesn't really apply to Chris' situation. At least, not yet.
 
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Yeah, there's no reason to believe he'd get a restraining order. Even if he did start stalking the Gamestop manajerk or somebody, that would be a probation violation and end with him in the slammer.

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Even if he hasn't been banned from the GameStop by court order, they have certainly permanently banned him, and I would be very surprised if he hasn't been banned from the whole chain. If he returns, it could be considered Criminal Trespass. While that might be very hard to make stick as anything more than a ticket, it could be enough to get him picked up by the police. And I guarantee you, two of the terms of his bail are A, don't go back to the place where you maced anyone and B, don't get arrested again.

Basically if Chris goes back there, the pepper spray could wind up not mattering, he might wind up in jail just from being in breach of the bail
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This is absolutely correct. It's 100% certain that the judge, should he decide to put Chris on probation, would order him to stay away from Gamestop and any employee. That's kinda a standard thing for probations.
 
No surprise here folks. My guess is someone spoofed the number for the Gamestop. Also Chris won't miss what he thinks is an opportunity to use the victim card. Narcissism at it's finest, "I can act however I want, whenever I want, wherever I want and it is fine for me to violate others rights and property but it is defiantly not ok for me to face negative consequences of it.".
 
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On topic: Yeah, I wouldn't put it past this being the work of weens. But as has probably been pointed out before in this thread: Why would Chris have their caller IDs saved?
 
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On topic: Yeah, I wouldn't put it past this being the work of weens. But as has probably been pointed out before in this thread: Why would Chris have their caller IDs saved?
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I don't quite see why that is surprising. At some point he might have wanted to call them for any number of perfectly reasonable things. He wanted to see if they had something in stock; he wanted to place something on order; he wanted to check the price of something.

Maybe he did this a couple times, looking up their number each time and then figured it would be easiest just to save the number in his phone.

I just don't see that is that weird to have the number for a store related to your favourite hobby saved in your phone.
 
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HarryHowler said:
Chris said that not only was he banned from setting foot in any local GameStop, but also forbidden from contacting any of the company's employees. The former could be explained away as a simple ban, but the latter more strongly suggests a restraining order. I guess the judge probably saw that Chris had a history of this, and decided to just slap him with the order as part of his bail conditions (unlike 28 October 2011, where Snyder had to go to court and specifically request one).
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AnOminous said:
Sounds entirely possible. It's also possible the judge just orally told him to stay away. In either case, though, his bail could be revoked if he did persist in trespassing at GameStop and/or harassing its employees. I think the Wal-Mart incident(s?) would qualify, too.
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wait, what?
A restraining order entails expenses. For every authority involved, it's a smurfing hassle. Every restraining order keeps several state employees busy at weird hours. In general: the less restrainig orders, the better for local authorities. These orders are just dreary, dreary overtime.

Now, given that, why would any official file a restraining order without the offended party telling them to?

A common German saying goes: 'No plaintiff, no judge'.
So, unless gamestop went and filed it, I doubt there's any restrainig order against Fatty.

And why would gamestop go to that trouble? They'd have to pay somebody to do that. Why spend that money if they can just ban Fatty from their store and have mall cops handle the problem if and when Fatty turns up to buy toys and vandalize displays again?
 
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Bernd Lauert said:
And why would gamestop go to that trouble? They'd have to pay somebody to do that. Why spend that money if they can just ban Fatty from their store and have mall cops handle the problem if and when Fatty turns up to buy toys and vandalize displays again?
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I thought it was just common practice if a fucktard does something crazy in a place of business the judge orders said fucktard not to set foot on said premises until the case is resolved.
 
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