FDA looking into properly regulating homeopathic drugs
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Anywhere in the U.S. you can go into an alleged pharmacy, like CVS, and find homeopathic quack shit that does literally nothing right next to real OTC medications, with no indication that they're complete garbage. At the very least, it should be put somewhere in its own section where people can't buy it accidentally because it's in the same section as legitimate decongestants, etc.
I think they absolutely should but its sadly not going to do much to deter people. A big part of the alt med community involves lamenting about how big pharma is hiding these natural remedies.
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Oh, that shit drives me nuts. It's just like anti-vaxxers. And the annoying thing is that, if I was talking to an alt medicine person about a Christian trying to cure their cancer with Jesus' love, they'd agree with me that that's goofy nonsense. But sugar pills? Totally legit.
But you're right, at the end of the day, you can't save dumbasses from themselves. At the very least, this snake oil stuff should be labeled better. I'd feel a bit better if all these sugar pills had a big notice that said "this does not treat any known affliction, you are a retard for thinking it might".
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It's all well and good to be happy they're taking Uncle Scammy's Totally Embiggened Crystal Stuff, but are we talking legit supplements, too?
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Nothing homeopathic is legitimate. It is literally nothing. It contains no active ingredients whatsoever.
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Okay, so this has no influence on, say, Vitamin C capsules?
Functional Animal
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I doubt it. No real reason to fuck with stuff like that other than to maybe say "Yep, there's vitamin C in there". Homeopathy, if you've never heard a full explanation is utterly hilarious. Here's some of my favorite videos on the subject.
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The stuff that scares me is the herbal shit.
Far from just being useless, a lot of this stuff can be harmful or dangerous. For example, St. John's Wort can screw with the effectiveness of other drugs. Kava can increase depression risks and will fuck your liver sideways. Pennyroyal can straight up kill you.
One of the big ones was that people used to love sassafras tea, claiming it could help with everything from UTIs to cancer. Unfortunately, it contains a fuckton of safrole, which is poisonous. The FDA finally stepped in after a while. Good to see they're doing something about the rest of this quackery.
Far from just being useless, a lot of this stuff can be harmful or dangerous. For example, St. John's Wort can screw with the effectiveness of other drugs. Kava can increase depression risks and will fuck your liver sideways. Pennyroyal can straight up kill you.
One of the big ones was that people used to love sassafras tea, claiming it could help with everything from UTIs to cancer. Unfortunately, it contains a fuckton of safrole, which is poisonous. The FDA finally stepped in after a while. Good to see they're doing something about the rest of this quackery.
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And by "properly regulating" do they mean banning entirely
And executing the people who push homeopathy, that would be good too
Execution by homeopathy
And executing the people who push homeopathy, that would be good too
Execution by homeopathy
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Sassafras tea is tasty. It's only poisonous if you take fucktons of it for moronic bogus medical reasons. Or inject enormous quantities of it directly into your body, like the rat tests that preceded outlawing it.
I've mentioned this before but my mom is really, really into homeopathy and other various quack remedies. It's incredibly frustrating. She's spent many many thousands of dollars on it over the years. She used to take me out of school once or twice a week to drive 2 hrs away for bogus allergy treatments. I ended up missing like 1/3 of one year of elementary school. She also dragged my nephews into it but that was over the summer so they didn't miss school.
It makes her incredibly difficult to talk to her because she thinks she can cure anything. I try really hard not to tell her when I'm sick or my bf is sick because she immediately starts rattling off lists of medications, and then she gets mad if she thinks I'm not taking them. A lot of my older relatives and neighbors are on medication, and while sometimes I think it's excessive she harasses them constantly to go to her quack doctors and get acupuncture and then she complains to me when they don't do it. Someone in the Natural News thread (I hope to god she never finds that website) mentioned a woman who randomly started complaining to a cashier about GMOs, my mom is kind of like that, she will start talking to random people in stores and because most people have something wrong with them and everybody eats its a perfect jumping off point for her to corner them and talk about allergies and diet.
She is also similarly obnoxious about whatever diet she's on, she used to be on the Blood Type diet and insisted that everyone should do it too, but now she's gluten free and insists that everyone else needs to be and that I've apparently been allergic to gluten my entire life. No one else really listens to her so she just forces my dad to do whatever diet she happens to be on, she also has a dog she takes in for allergy treatments.
I would love to see this stuff regulated better to keep idiots from wasting everyone elses time, but sadly for those like my mom I don't think it will make much of an impact. A lot of this stuff is so obviously stupid on the surface I don't see how a warning label could make it more obvious. Like the allergy treatments I mentioned earlier, do you want to know how it was supposedly discovered? There was this woman who was allergic to everything except like, cabbage or something, and she also happened to be into acupuncture. One day she got sick of just eating cabbage, so she ate some carrots, but they made her really sick, so she did acupuncture to help feel better. While she was doing the acupuncture she just happened to be touching the carrots or laying on them or something. After the acupuncture she decided to try eating carrots again ? and then didn't get sick so she discovered if you touch something you're allergic to while doing acupuncture you aren't allergic to it any more. Yes it's really that stupid.
Another thing is my moms favorite quack doctors, I felt like they just started telling her random things because she would believe anything. We would go in to get allergy tests and they'd start out with the normal stuff like saying we were allergic to corn, soy, etc but then it got weird, they started claiming that we were allergic to computers, to the air in our house, to some of my toys, and to each other. Yes, they actually said that I was allergic to my mom and dad. Its almost like they were just fucking with us but I think the doctor might actually believe it, I don't know.
I will say that at least some of this stuff seems to help her, even if it's just placebo effect. Also, my dad got rid of a nasty case of gallstones that were going to need to be surgically removed by drinking apple cider vinegar, or something. Anyway for the most part I think people should stay away, it's a money sink that makes you obnoxious on par with people who join Amway or recent religious converts.
It makes her incredibly difficult to talk to her because she thinks she can cure anything. I try really hard not to tell her when I'm sick or my bf is sick because she immediately starts rattling off lists of medications, and then she gets mad if she thinks I'm not taking them. A lot of my older relatives and neighbors are on medication, and while sometimes I think it's excessive she harasses them constantly to go to her quack doctors and get acupuncture and then she complains to me when they don't do it. Someone in the Natural News thread (I hope to god she never finds that website) mentioned a woman who randomly started complaining to a cashier about GMOs, my mom is kind of like that, she will start talking to random people in stores and because most people have something wrong with them and everybody eats its a perfect jumping off point for her to corner them and talk about allergies and diet.
She is also similarly obnoxious about whatever diet she's on, she used to be on the Blood Type diet and insisted that everyone should do it too, but now she's gluten free and insists that everyone else needs to be and that I've apparently been allergic to gluten my entire life. No one else really listens to her so she just forces my dad to do whatever diet she happens to be on, she also has a dog she takes in for allergy treatments.
I would love to see this stuff regulated better to keep idiots from wasting everyone elses time, but sadly for those like my mom I don't think it will make much of an impact. A lot of this stuff is so obviously stupid on the surface I don't see how a warning label could make it more obvious. Like the allergy treatments I mentioned earlier, do you want to know how it was supposedly discovered? There was this woman who was allergic to everything except like, cabbage or something, and she also happened to be into acupuncture. One day she got sick of just eating cabbage, so she ate some carrots, but they made her really sick, so she did acupuncture to help feel better. While she was doing the acupuncture she just happened to be touching the carrots or laying on them or something. After the acupuncture she decided to try eating carrots again ? and then didn't get sick so she discovered if you touch something you're allergic to while doing acupuncture you aren't allergic to it any more. Yes it's really that stupid.
Another thing is my moms favorite quack doctors, I felt like they just started telling her random things because she would believe anything. We would go in to get allergy tests and they'd start out with the normal stuff like saying we were allergic to corn, soy, etc but then it got weird, they started claiming that we were allergic to computers, to the air in our house, to some of my toys, and to each other. Yes, they actually said that I was allergic to my mom and dad. Its almost like they were just fucking with us but I think the doctor might actually believe it, I don't know.
I will say that at least some of this stuff seems to help her, even if it's just placebo effect. Also, my dad got rid of a nasty case of gallstones that were going to need to be surgically removed by drinking apple cider vinegar, or something. Anyway for the most part I think people should stay away, it's a money sink that makes you obnoxious on par with people who join Amway or recent religious converts.
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I work in this industry and nothing frightens me more than people loudly proclaiming how homeopathics helped them get off their meds. That and Chinese herbs that supposedly cure viruses, Carditone, and people thinking that mushrooms cure cancer.
The last one is super frustrating because mushrooms have a long history of being genuinely helpful for the immune system, but some quack out there claimed they and aloe vera shrank his tumor and now the whole market's fucked.
The last one is super frustrating because mushrooms have a long history of being genuinely helpful for the immune system, but some quack out there claimed they and aloe vera shrank his tumor and now the whole market's fucked.
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If people were better educated on the placebo effect, these products wouldn't be nearly as popular. If anything an FDA regulation sends these people further underground, and will result in people buying massive stockpiles before BIG PHARMA destroys their only cure.
Also, a week or so ago I saw an article which claimed CVS had either a 40 or 80 proof alcoholic homeopathic medicine which resulted in minors buying large amounts of it. I'm not sure if it was just clickbait trash or not, but I'd imagine it could be related.
Also, a week or so ago I saw an article which claimed CVS had either a 40 or 80 proof alcoholic homeopathic medicine which resulted in minors buying large amounts of it. I'm not sure if it was just clickbait trash or not, but I'd imagine it could be related.
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Vitamins, herbal supplements, and the like need to be regulated as well. An alarming number of them don't contain anything they are labelled as having and are basically sawdust capsules.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...rt-walgreens-accused-of-selling-fake-herbals/
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This stuff. A "constipation" reliever which is nothing but alcohol and water. It's a pretty overpriced way that underage drinkers can legally purchase a 40 proof alcohol.
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for this reason in the uk while true homoeopathy is not regulated, the herbal stuff is.
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I'd hate to have invested in a company that makes this shit because this market is gonna tank practically overnight. This will probably also hurt the bottom line of pharmacies as well.