Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[The Joker]

That might be a good question for the FAQ.

I recall the Slenderman stabbing girl that was released during covid has strict rules regarding her internet usage as part of her parole.

 

[Shovel Mech Pilot]

Also Bob always encouraged Chris to remain unemployed.

In defense of Bob on that point, I think he could have been legitimately concerned that Chris could have done something really out of pocket if he kept Chris in the workforce. Chris is known for snapping under stress, and he has issues with anger and being sexually inappropriate. Not a great combination, especially in a high stress job that requires lots of people interaction such as retail.

 

[FinnSven]

Bob was worse than people like to admit simply because he is dead.

He always bought into Chris delusions and blamed Michael, Megan and "that other gay kid" as the people who singlehandedly ruined Chris life and were behind all the trolling.

Listen to many troll phone calls and you will see Bob would rather blame trolls and other people than hold Chris accountable, he always did since Chris was a child.

Not saying that Snorlax is better, but there's a reason why Chris turned the way be did and it was Borb+ Bob upbringing. Also Bob always encouraged Chris to remain unemployed.

I think it is a bit unfair as while he was stuck in his ways, it’s understandable to a certain extent that he was as he was pretty damn old to be having another kid.

In Bob’s youth, and the youth of his other kids, there was nothing like the internet and it’s unprecedented capacity to influence shut ins.
He certainly understood that Chris was easily influenced, but he probably did not quite understand why the trolls were not limiting their actions.
In real life and his day there would have been a point that the bullies and such would moderate their pranking of the special kid. Plus once at home, the influence stops.

With the internet, the influence was in Chris’s bedroom.

 

[The Crust]

Bob was worse than people like to admit simply because he is dead.

He always bought into Chris delusions and blamed Michael, Megan and "that other gay kid" as the people who singlehandedly ruined Chris life and were behind all the trolling.

Listen to many troll phone calls and you will see Bob would rather blame trolls and other people than hold Chris accountable, he always did since Chris was a child.

Not saying that Snorlax is better, but there's a reason why Chris turned the way be did and it was Borb+ Bob upbringing. Also Bob always encouraged Chris to remain unemployed.

A NEET by nurture, not nature.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

That might be a good question for the FAQ.

Yeah I might add that, and expand.

It used to be common to ban some criminals from using the internet if the internet was in any way involved with their crimes, or if it was a sex offense.

This is no longer the case, as the Supreme Court has ruled that the constitutional right to free speech guarantees the right to use the internet. This includes social media. Most recently, in Packingham v. North Carolina (2017), SCOTUS unanimously ruled that criminals, including sex offenders, could not be banned from using social media once released.

The current trend is that you have to report all of your social media, email, and messaging accounts as part of your reporting for the registry. There's usually some other ban like not being friends with minors who are not your family (except in cases of incest with minors). In Virginia, the requirements for registered sex offenders are covered under § 9.1-903 -- basically you have to report all email, chat, and social media accounts.

For non-RSOs (and Chris is likely not going to get RSO status), I'm not sure how Virginia handles it. There might be some restrictions as part of a release plan. They definitely can't ban you though.

EDIT:

Of course Facebook, etc. can still ban Chris by their usage policies. I've tried to find Facebook's sex offender policies but they are incredibly vague. They make references to the sex offender registry, but they don't actually define what a sex offender is, if they have to be registered, etc. I've tried to find a more specific definition but have failed so far.

 

[The Dude]

Bob was worse than people like to admit simply because he is dead.

He always bought into Chris delusions and blamed Michael, Megan and "that other gay kid" as the people who singlehandedly ruined Chris life and were behind all the trolling.

Listen to many troll phone calls and you will see Bob would rather blame trolls and other people than hold Chris accountable, he always did since Chris was a child.

Not saying that Snorlax is better, but there's a reason why Chris turned the way be did and it was Borb+ Bob upbringing. Also Bob always encouraged Chris to remain unemployed.

I can't really blame Bob for going along with whatever bullshit Chris fed him in regards to the trolling. He was an old feller with a wide generational gap between himself and his youngest child. He grew up in a very different time and world from Chris with very different life experiences. He had little to no experience with the internet and the cultures that have formed within it, and he spent the last quarter or so of his life with only his wife and Autistic son for any company. And he had already believed that the local community discriminated his son. With all that in mind, put yourself in his shoes and consider which scenario is more believable: A. A shopkeeper who has already banned your son from his store because of his awkward behavior and a girl he was formerly friends with until she rejected him because he tried to date her got together with their friends to start a harassment campaign because they hate your Autistic son? Or B. A bunch of strangers from around the world discovered your son because of his childish comic book, thought he was funny, and formed an elaborate scheme to tease him and make him do ridiculous things just because they thought it was funny to get a rise out of him?

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Bob was worse than people like to admit simply because he is dead.

He always bought into Chris delusions and blamed Michael, Megan and "that other gay kid" as the people who singlehandedly ruined Chris life and were behind all the trolling.

How many parents are delusional about their crackhead kids? Bob is guilty of loving his tard baby and forgetting Chris is not an extension of himself.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

I've said this once here before and I'll say it again.
Chris is adaptable. That's the one thing you have to give him. He may be fat stupid and lazy but he can adapt to almost any environment.
He also follows whatever the collective tells him.
For instance when he was online the various websites he visited were filled with the left so Chris would parrot whatever they said without actually understanding the context of what they were saying. I fully believe that if Twitter was filled with people from the right instead of people from the left we would have seen videos of Chris praising Trump instead of him mindlessly talking about how he's evil just because the Internet told him so.
In jail Chris adapted pretty well. In the mental hospital he will also adapt and after a while becoming almost model patient. Don't get me wrong we'll have a couple sperg outs at first but eventually he will adapt. The problem arises on the fact that Chris might be put back into society where he will immediately take to the internet again. His collective will change from one of therapy back to crazy troons yelling about politics.
Essentially I think if he does get out he will eventually end up exactly like he was. Chris has a different kind of individuality. Where you and me are individuals with our own complex ideas and often contradictory notions Chris basically just follows whatever the collective he's into tells him blindly. For instance if we surrounded Chris with a bunch of people that believe the Earth is flat you would start talking about how the Earth was flat. Then if we surrounded him with people that talk about how the Earth is actually round he would start talking about how the Earth is actually round.

While I agree he's easily led, he latches onto things that appeal to him and never lets go. Like the merge or him being a CPU Goddess. A lot of that was from the time with the Idea Guys. He's free from them now but those delusions have stuck because it's what he likes. These things make Chris feel special. It feeds his ego that he's more than just some stupid sperg.

The whole "I hate Trump" thing was more due to the idea that Trump hatred gays, trannies and the like. Trump might hate them, I don't know, but it's fanbase that is really in that camp. After all if he was hanging out in leftie land that he absorbed their ideas why was he still a Christian during that time until he got it into his head that he was his own goddess?

Chris's ego is a patchwork made up of things he's heard, things he likes and stuff he's glommed onto for whatever reason. And once it's there it's very hard for him to let go. He only apologized to Michael Snyder after he found out he was 0.1% Jew and the same to the niggos out there because he was 0.1% darkie. Except it's been shown that a lot of these DNA places add stuff like that to the genome when they're too much Northern European. It's statistical noise when you get down to it but Chris is a believer because it came from an official source. He dropped his Cherokian heritage like a hot potato when he got those results.

In order for Chris to get out of the loony bin he's going to need to show them that he doesn't believe he's a CPU goddess, that he doesn't have telekinetic powers, that the merge isn't happening and all that crazy stuff that he does believe. But the doctors there are aware of how patients can fake being normal by repeating what they have been told over and over again. It doesn't mean they believe it. They need to show, over time, that they truly don't believe these things any more.

Chris needs to prove he's not crazy to get out of there and since crazy has been such a big part of his life since the very beginning he's not getting out any time soon.

Bob was worse than people like to admit simply because he is dead.

Bob wasn't perfect but he kept Chris on a more even keel than Snorlax did. He didn't put up with a lot of Chris's bullshit. So in that sense he would have been the better parent as Barb just goes along with whatever so long as she gets what she needs from Chris.

Bob also didn't understand the internet or how it worked so he wasn't up to speed on the trolling. He would just treat it like it would have been done back in the day.

Remember him telling Chris to get the video of the house tour off the internet and thinking it was just the matter of deleting the original video?

 

[Pappy Striderite]

Chris raped his mother for personal growth

[insert low effort impotence blurb]

 

[Dr. Silvestrechu]

Chris raped his mother for personal growth

He achieved at least one kind of growth.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

Hasn't there been cases of people being banned from the internet. Not just certain sites?

long ago they'd ban 'hackers' from owning a computer, touching one, only using a rotary phone at home, etc... as part of a parole deal, yes. but our [US] legal system finally realized this isn't realistic anymore.

the movie 'hackers' showed a dramatization of this but by the time it came out i believe the very last such punishment IRL was almost a decade behind us.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

How many parents are delusional about their crackhead kids?

and every time chris told bob it was hackers that overdrew his account. bob -needed- to believe this. he was dying. he didn't have time to fix chris' financial priorities, nor punch some morality into his sternum.

 

[Ophelia]

In defense of Bob on that point, I think he could have been legitimately concerned that Chris could have done something really out of pocket if he kept Chris in the workforce. Chris is known for snapping under stress, and he has issues with anger and being sexually inappropriate. Not a great combination, especially in a high stress job that requires lots of people interaction such as retail.

A responsible parent communicates with other parents of tards and learns about the kind of jobs they can do.

In order for Chris to get out of the loony bin he's going to need to show them that he doesn't believe he's a CPU goddess, that he doesn't have telekinetic powers, that the merge isn't happening and all that crazy stuff that he does believe.

Why would that be the case? The US is full of people walking around freely who believe things like that. Chris isn’t (or wasn’t, as the case seems to be) there to stop pretending those things.

But the doctors there are aware of how patients can fake being normal by repeating what they have been told over and over again. It doesn't mean they believe it. They need to show, over time, that they truly don't believe these things any more.

Not necessarily. They need to show they can manage their delusions and that they won’t affect their every day lives. We don’t lock people up for believing they’re Napoleon or that Barney the Dinosaur is talking to them.

 

[chaotic_socket]

I have a better question: Has Barb tried to fuck Tom yet?

I didn't even know barb had other relatives lmao

 

[AnOminous]

Can they legally ban a person from using social media in the United States. Because honestly I think that would be the best for Chris at this point. Hopefully all of weens would eventually lose interest in him if he’s not posting cringe shit to Twitter.

Just a blanket ban on all Internet activity as an automatic penalty for a crime has generally been seen as unconstitutional, but bans on certain particular criminals who have used the Internet in certain ways are generally sound, although a blanket ban on all Internet use would probably require some kind of severe violation.

However, someone granted parole or other early release with special conditions can agree to a blanket ban in return for being released early.

So far as I can tell (and the case law is a bit of a mess tbh), restrictions on Internet use have to be tailored narrowly to serve the compelling state interest of preventing Internet criminality, mostly relating to predation against children although some fairly notorious hackers have also been hit with some fairly far-reaching bans, Mitnick being an obvious example.

This is no longer the case, as the Supreme Court has ruled that the constitutional right to free speech guarantees the right to use the internet. This includes social media. Most recently, in Packingham v. North Carolina (2017), SCOTUS unanimously ruled that criminals, including sex offenders, could not be banned from using social media once released.

This case has come up before, and I think the actual ratio decidendi is narrower than that. Minus Ginsburg and considering recent leanings of the Court, the 3 member concurrence may be more like what the Court would find in the future, but this didn't find that criminals can't, on a case by case basis, under a constitutional statute, be prohibited from social media use just because of being convicted of a certain broad category of crime.

This is more or less in line with the entire general line of prior restraint cases. The statute in North Carolina was too broad and excessively burdened protected speech without a direct connection to the state's purpose of protecting children.

A less broad statute more narrowly tailored to the purpose would probably withstand review.

 

[ratboymax]

I'm still obsessed with Chris Chan sorry.

That Gunt fellow seems to make quite a stir. Try him.

you arent the only one, cant wait for his hearing to get new info on the guy

 

[Duke Nukem]

I've said this once here before and I'll say it again.
Chris is adaptable. That's the one thing you have to give him. He may be fat stupid and lazy but he can adapt to almost any environment.
He also follows whatever the collective tells him.
For instance when he was online the various websites he visited were filled with the left so Chris would parrot whatever they said without actually understanding the context of what they were saying. I fully believe that if Twitter was filled with people from the right instead of people from the left we would have seen videos of Chris praising Trump instead of him mindlessly talking about how he's evil just because the Internet told him so.
In jail Chris adapted pretty well. In the mental hospital he will also adapt and after a while becoming almost model patient. Don't get me wrong we'll have a couple sperg outs at first but eventually he will adapt. The problem arises on the fact that Chris might be put back into society where he will immediately take to the internet again. His collective will change from one of therapy back to crazy troons yelling about politics.
Essentially I think if he does get out he will eventually end up exactly like he was. Chris has a different kind of individuality. Where you and me are individuals with our own complex ideas and often contradictory notions Chris basically just follows whatever the collective he's into tells him blindly. For instance if we surrounded Chris with a bunch of people that believe the Earth is flat you would start talking about how the Earth was flat. Then if we surrounded him with people that talk about how the Earth is actually round he would start talking about how the Earth is actually round.

Come to think of it, Chris is barely unique in that regard. I'm fairly certain politicians would love for us to be just like him in that respect, but I digress. I don't know how common it is for autistic people to be unable to tell works of fiction from reality but either he's genuinely unable to separate the two, or he's mega coping like it's going out of style.

Bob was worse than people like to admit simply because he is dead.

He always bought into Chris delusions and blamed Michael, Megan and "that other gay kid" as the people who singlehandedly ruined Chris life and were behind all the trolling.

Listen to many troll phone calls and you will see Bob would rather blame trolls and other people than hold Chris accountable, he always did since Chris was a child.

Not saying that Snorlax is better, but there's a reason why Chris turned the way be did and it was Borb+ Bob upbringing. Also Bob always encouraged Chris to remain unemployed.

That's true, personally I think Bob was just too old to have the energy to deal with a problem child like Chris, but there's definitely more he could have done to prevent the lolcow we know from going the way he did.

Some things are Bob's fault and others are not. Like how he believed that a special school for Chris would be an insane asylum or something. Which is ironic considering where he probably is now. And then there's that Sonichu CD cover. Both Bob and the teacher should have said "Hell No" when he tried to pull it off. And the Game Place. I'm not sure how much Bob knew about those incidents but I'm not sure he would have helped much either way. But then again he's Chris.

A responsible parent communicates with other parents of tards and learns about the kind of jobs they can do.


Why would that be the case? The US is full of people walking around freely who believe things like that. Chris isn’t (or wasn’t, as the case seems to be) there to stop pretending those things.


Not necessarily. They need to show they can manage their delusions and that they won’t affect their every day lives. We don’t lock people up for believing they’re Napoleon or that Barney the Dinosaur is talking to them.

I would sure hope not, Barney the Dinosaur talks to me on a regular basis.

 

[Duke Nukem]

and every time chris told bob it was hackers that overdrew his account. bob -needed- to believe this. he was dying. he didn't have time to fix chris' financial priorities, nor punch some morality into his sternum.

Deep down inside, Bob knew how much of a useless idiot Chris truly was. He just didn't have the time or energy to deal with his antics.

Reminds me of those pregnancy prevention posters saying "one night can last a lifetime."

 

[The American Hedgehog]

New thread on Chris being returned to the jail - https://kiwifarms.net/threads/may-3-2022-chris-returned-to-cvrj.118239/