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So the question is: who's next?

James Chen and Ultra David are already getting "enablers" comments and Ultra David is flat out blocking people and giving really borderline projection replies. The Cannon brothers have taken over EVO, but people are already calling for their heads over just how closely intertwined they have been with Wiz over the years.

Don't be suprised if a lot more people go down. Especially if they were involved with Mr. Wizard at the old golf/gamecenter back in the day.

People are starting to scour old tweets and social media now. People haven't gone delete everything mode yet, but archive everything you see. Knowing the old FGC, this could be a goldmine of stuff. :story:

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Fareal said:
now we clearly know what this fgt’s CORE VALUES that he cancelled DOA for are, not enough small boy pen0r in DOA, too much titty
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Eliot is probably more up his alley,though he became "legal" after DOA5 so I guess he's too old for him now...
 
Is gaming culture being completely ruined right now?

Who wants to be part of something like the "FGC" or a streamer or in any way a public figure in gaming when it's like painting one big ass target on your back?

Arguably this is a blessing in disguise though because gaming so you can try to be rich and famous and not just because you love to play games is faggy anyway.

Hopefully like a phoenix from the ashes a new gaming culture can emerge that resembles more of what it was 20 years ago as opposed to now.
 
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Is gaming culture being completely ruined right now?
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It's fine. It won't be completely ruined unless #CancelCulture starts to fuck with individual fanbases like Zelda/Sonic/Mario and communities like Sonic Retro.

Basically what happened to Pokemon with Bulbapedia and Smogon when people found out they were having underground pedo discussions only on a bigger wider scale.
 
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If there's any takeaway from this beyond not raping kids or molesting strangers, it's that being "pro gamer," like "streamer" or "Youtuber," is a hobby, not a career choice. The only exceptions are the best of the best, or rather the luckiest of the luckiest, and even they are in the single digits and had enough money to burn if they failed otherwise. Look at Nairo, the Smash player who was cancelled, and how he doesn't have any advertisable job skills or education as far as anyone is aware. Now he can't do anything beyond menial labor and entry-level work, assuming he fails trying to restart his streaming career.

Your ability to push buttons good at a video game will degrade over time and, even with sponsors, you won't make enough money to have a sizeable safety net for the future. You can have it as a hobby, you can call it your "lifestyle," but for your own sake, don't bet your life on it.
 
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If there's any takeaway from this beyond not raping kids or molesting strangers, it's that being "pro gamer," like "streamer" or "Youtuber," is a hobby, not a career choice. The only exceptions are the best of the best, or rather the luckiest of the luckiest, and even they are in the single digits and had enough money to burn if they failed otherwise. Look at Nairo, the Smash player who was cancelled, and how he doesn't have any advertisable job skills or education as far as anyone is aware. Now he can't do anything beyond menial labor and entry-level work, assuming he fails trying to restart his streaming career.

Your ability to push buttons good at a video game will degrade over time and, even with sponsors, you won't make enough money to have a sizeable safety net for the future. You can have it as a hobby, you can call it your "lifestyle," but for your own sake, don't bet your life on it.
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You can make a reasonable amount of money by presenting a personality-driven show. Even if you're not good at the videogames, if you've got the gift of the gab you can keep people entertained while you bumble around trying to find where the developer hid that goddamned red key.

Sure, you're still vulnerable to being canceled if you're an idiot, but people with fanbases who are interested in the person as opposed to the game or the skill level tend to be safer. People who already like you are much more likely to give you the benefit of the doubt, and you're not relying on invitations from anyone to make your money. Case in point: PewDiePie. He's got canceled multiple times and he's still around.

The greatest danger is to have the fame going to your head and becoming so unlikeable even your fanbase can't stand you anymore.
 
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You can make a reasonable amount of money by presenting a personality-driven show. Even if you're not good at the videogames, if you've got the gift of the gab you can keep people entertained while you bumble around trying to find where the developer hid that goddamned red key.

Sure, you're still vulnerable to being canceled if you're an idiot, but people with fanbases who are interested in the person as opposed to the game or the skill level tend to be safer. People who already like you are much more likely to give you the benefit of the doubt, and you're not relying on invitations from anyone to make your money. Case in point: PewDiePie. He's got canceled multiple times and he's still around.

The greatest danger is to have the fame going to your head and becoming so unlikeable even your fanbase can't stand you anymore.
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PewDiePie is far from the norm. Even before getting cancelled, he was among the most subscribed channels on Youtube, if not the most subscribed. That is absolutely not comparable to the average personality or wanna-be Youtube star. But most importantly, platforms like Youtube and Twitch owe you nothing. A slip of the tongue, a change in algorithms, or shifting trends will leave you penniless if you don't have a plan B.

Nairo was one of the most liked personalities in Smash. Mr. Wizard was perhaps the most influential personality in the entire FGC. Both are gone. And much like streaming and hosting platforms to its own users, a player's audience owes them nothing. It doesn't matter what pocket change you make playing games if it isn't sustainable.
 
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PewDiePie is far from the norm. Even before getting cancelled, he was among the most subscribed channels on Youtube, if not the most subscribed. That is absolutely not comparable to the average personality or wanna-be Youtube star. But most importantly, platforms like Youtube and Twitch owe you nothing. A slip of the tongue, a change in algorithms, or shifting trends will leave you penniless if you don't have a plan B.

Nairo was one of the most liked personalities in Smash. Mr. Wizard was perhaps the most influential personality in the entire FGC. Both are gone. And much like streaming and hosting platforms to its own users, a player's audience owes them nothing. It doesn't matter what pocket change you make playing games if it isn't sustainable.
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Most Likeable Smash Player is a lot like World’s Tallest Midget.
 
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_01 said:
PewDiePie is far from the norm. Even before getting cancelled, he was among the most subscribed channels on Youtube, if not the most subscribed. That is absolutely not comparable to the average personality or wanna-be Youtube star. But most importantly, platforms like Youtube and Twitch owe you nothing. A slip of the tongue, a change in algorithms, or shifting trends will leave you penniless if you don't have a plan B.

Nairo was one of the most liked personalities in Smash. Mr. Wizard was perhaps the most influential personality in the entire FGC. Both are gone. And much like streaming and hosting platforms to its own users, a player's audience owes them nothing. It doesn't matter what pocket change you make playing games if it isn't sustainable.
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You're missing the point. I mentioned PDP as the ur-example of the sort of thing that can help you against getting canceled: building your own community, around you, as a person. As I said, personality-driven. Because then you can't be ejected from your own community. Yeah, they don't owe you anything, which is why you must keep working to retain their interest. That's what literally every single entertainer out there has to do for a living. If you do it right you'll always have a core community that will stick with you either because they like you or they don't care about any accusations made against you. That's just about the only viable business model for gaming on youtube and Twitch right now. And I say "viable", not "easy" or "reliable". Most people who try it are going to fail, either by not being amusing or interesting enough, or by not being lucky enough to be followed and shared by the right people at the right time and going viral.

Mr. Wizard and Nairo and all these people getting #meToo'd in the FGC are fucked because they were part of a community. They relied on it for connections and moneymaking opportunities. That's what a tournament is for: making money. Both for the organizers, and for the winners. But the community wasn't theirs. I'm sure Nairo at least will still have some people watching him even without him being invited to tournaments anymore, and he'll probably be able to rebuild because let's be frank: most people watching people play videogames don't really care about this shit.
 
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Its always the folk who scream about morals that turn out to be the biggest sexual deviants around.

Like shit man cinnpie is a hardcore BLM supporter and Bernie supporter, now it's out that she fucks kids
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In the current year, everyone is a paragon of moral virtue--virtue being defined as "everything I do and think," and evil being defined as "everything people I dislike do and think."

Fuck the fighting game community--let it burn. You hold yourselves to a standard of perfection and everyone will fail to meet it. The only people who remain will be liars, by necessity, scared shitless of the revelation that they aren't saints. Then, once all the fun and camaraderie is long dead and you're left alone, coping with w/e childhood issues led to your myopic obsession with video games for escapism, and you want to know who killed that fun group of weirdos you called a community, look in the mirror you hypocritical assholes.

Go back to playing games on the couch with your friends, i.e. the people who don't ostracize you the moment a flaw is exposed.
 
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I haven't seen anyone link this video yet, and I've been waiting for someone to do that:
which is old, but somehow still relevant,imo.

_01 said:
Being "pro gamer," like "streamer" or "Youtuber," is a hobby, not a career choice

You can have it as a hobby, you can call it your "lifestyle," but for your own sake, don't bet your life on it.
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I want this engraved on a plaque.
 
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