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I imagine Dawntrail would be far more well recieved if Wuk Lamat was actually attractive for anyone besides those who find housecats erotic, wasn't voiced by a mentally ill man, and was given traits beyond ditzy well wisher
 
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Soycast Guy said:
Also wondering, do gra’ha tia or y’shtola ever appear in this expansion? They were shown in the trailer but haven’t shown up once. I’m 58 quests in. Estinien also laughably gets just two scenes. Because as we know, this is a Wuk lamat expansion.
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Yes. It seems that they learnt from ALL SCIONS ALL THE TIME from EW and stagger them out a bit.
 
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I havent even hit the first dungeon and the writing is fucking killing me, i might straight cancel my sub and just fuck off from this game.
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Honestly just skip every cutscene, I got upto the first trial before I had to tap out.

Weirdly the Rolequests are really fucking good, like prime Hildibrande style shit, makes me think Yoshi-P wrote it like he did Hildie.
 
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Let the Dawntrail shitstorm begin.
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Grummz is a fucking retard who still hasn't put out his game, going at the DT launch as "omg its woke" is also retarded, the english voice of troonlion is the least of the problems DT has, so much so that people in this thread (myself included) thinking we could enjoy DT by simply swapping to JP voices were met with the fact that everything about the MSQ sucked arse.
 
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Übertroon said:
I imagine Dawntrail would be far more well recieved if Wuk Lamat was actually attractive for anyone besides those who find housecats erotic, wasn't voiced by a mentally ill man, and was given traits beyond ditzy well wisher
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Japan doesn't like her either, and they don't have to deal with the VA and are overall more accepting of really dumb anime characters.

Wuk Lamat reminds me of those old BG2 NPC mods where someone put their special Mary Sue character in the game and they just took over every single dialogue.
 
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Grummz is such a faggot because if you look at the majority of criticism it is poor pacing, shit writing and for me a really basic bloated combat system that should have had an overhaul this expansion. The graphical update isn't really noticeable. Game journos are fucking bastards because all they do is strawman and the second you deconstruct them they cry falsehood and bigotry.

The audience for this game is enraptured too by toxic positivity and a deep parasocial link to Yoshi P or more so his identity is so interwoven into the game, he is the face of it but also it's harbinger. It's similar to Jeff Kaplan with Overwatch second he left shit went down fast and the same is with Yoshi. Ishikawi is a fantastic writer her stuff in early MSQ for EW is the best thing about that piece of shit expansion. What is jarring too you can see the writing change before you, it goes Ishi, Yoshi then whoever wrote Elpis but it was jarring af.

Here are the problems since people love reading here from outside;
  • Inconsistent writing of MSQ and clearly no QA
  • Poor mapped out patch structure, you can tell a lot were an after thought.
  • Lying about button bloat, they said in the live letter before last that they were going to deal with it because so many classes have too many to the point its irritating, healing is full of them Whm especially and you end up using like 6.
  • Lack of vision for the overall game, atm the game does not know what the hell it wants to be, you can make good encounters but for an outsider not on the team I question who is this game for because MSQ sounds like shit novella currently.
The game has the potential to be great it has been multiple times it just needs to advance and not rest on its laurels because Wow was plagued with the same issue. Wuk La feels like a character designed for anime but in video game conventions along with the limitations of a video game. I am hot on my anime and know a few Japanese people and I can tell you from the get go if asked they would hate this character.
 
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If I didn't get hooked by how much more interactive the trials were, I would have just cut my losses and hopped back to Atelier Resleriana
 
std::string said:
Wuk Lamat reminds me of those old BG2 NPC mods where someone put their special Mary Sue character in the game and they just took over every single dialogue.
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Ah, no wonder I was always feeling the urge to do something else every time WL was on screen, it's because my mind just associates her with that old Saerileth mod and is screaming to leave now and to save myself.
 
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Well Intentioned said:
The big thing for me is that Gulool was able to create this utopia in EIGHTY YEARS.

80 years to bring together an entire fucking continent.
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FFXIV in general has a big problem in conceptualising timelines. If you remember Garlemald, they went from piddly poor, backwater kingdom, to continent-spanning empire in the span of one generation (the entire length of the rule of Emet-Selch). Even if you take into account the plot armour of Ascians, that's pretty unbelievable considering how Siberia-coded their home country was.

That the liggers could unite an entire continent in that span is not that far-fetched within the framework of this setting.
 
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Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
Lying about button bloat, they said in the live letter before last that they were going to deal with it because so many classes have too many to the point its irritating, healing is full of them Whm especially and you end up using like 6.
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More buttons = more gameplay duh.

Now that they've changed the MNK GCD rotation they could've just made it three buttons. Spender if you have gems, builder otherwise. Oh, would that be too easy? Well fucking look at VPR. They're entirely fine with keeping bloat down and know how to do it.

Oh and AST got more fucking buttons that you have to deal with regularly.
 
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Sunflower Samurai said:
I for one welcome the autism slapfights i can scroll over when taking a shit from all the retarded culture warriors finally noticing this game's auitstic community
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ChromaQuack said:
Grummz is a fucking retard
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Chaotic Pizzaparty said:
Grummz is such a faggot
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He's a litigious, bottom-feeding parasite whose only means of survival is pandering to some of the most uninformed, terminally online consumers on the planet. Guy went out of his way to ensure that his literal job, his bread-butterer, is being an online 24-7 grifter.

He'll move on to some other milquetoast controversy in a week and try to call it "woke" or whatever. That's the life he chose for himself.
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Even if you take into account the plot armour of Ascians, that's pretty unbelievable considering how Siberia-coded their home country was.
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It's not impossible, but it's the sort of thing you have to write out intelligently. The obvious one to learn from here would be the USSR - or China, if you like. Backwards, backwater countries transformed under an iron fist in the course of a few decades into industrial powerhouses to rival the strongest countries in the world... if, for all that rise, an appropriate amount of creaking foundations and wobbly structural integrity. Advancements that took the rest of the world centuries progressed in -decades- for these countries due to utterly ruthless (and often misguided) top-down control.

It would fit like a real glove in this story. Nigh-on timeless beings with eternities-old knowledge like the Ascians could easily take advantage of such a rigid autocratic structure to impose rapid progress. They might know that it was never going to last and that the rotten foundations would eventually crumble - but what does that matter, if your goal is to destroy the entire world anyways?

So to say a 'all tribes are united' story could be explored in much the same way, looking back to... well, not only the American revolution, but the Bolivarian revolutions if we want to keep on-theme. While these various colonists weren't necessarily as disparate as FF14's trying to cut, you did have vastly disparate cultures coming together around a common antagonist, and establishing states that (in theory) preserved that harmony of different social groups. Naturally, the way you need to write this is to expose the friction and the bumpiness - as well as the ingenuity necessary to keep such a delicate arrangement in place. But I really had no faith that the team would be able to do it - the guy who did Bozja, the team that did Heavensward, and even to some extent Stormblood all have soemwhat-poignant moments that seem keen to emulate real-world political and civic thought into the game's lore, but I think some committee suit decided that sappy, stupid, nonsense tropes about coexistence perform better in market studies.
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I don't think people were really expecting it to be Shadowbringers quality or even Endwalker quality.
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See, this is where my creative side just has to gawp at how badly they dropped the ball. Mind you, I'm still in the "Endwalker is as bad as if not worse than SB" camp, but a lot of people assumed that they'd just phone it in since the main story was all finished with. But for me, that'd be an awesome place to be - you're finally unbeholden to the burdening baggage of the old story or the old characters or the old dynamics. You have an entire world, and all this lore and history already built up.

You could really have seen creativity unleashed here, and a return to the pleasant, fantastic worldbuilding moments that made Heavensward and the first spot of Shadowbringers so enjoyable. If anything, I was holding out hope that the team, unburdened from having to care about the "how can we go higher than a universe-ending threat?" would really seize the initiative and show off that you can tell a lower-stakes, more captivating story that's just one glimpse into a wide, wide world.

Of course, in reality, I knew it'd eventually become "save the world" again. I was not expecting it to become Lyse again.
 
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