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I have a weird schizo theory for why the story in Dawntrail ended up so bad. Is it possible that Wuk Lamat speaks so many lines because certain people wanted Sena Bryer to voice act a certain quota of lines just so they could have it printed on their resume as a “lead voice actor role”. Is it possible that Dawntrail’s story was already written but had to be rewritten because squeenix wanted Blackrock or some other liberal slanted corporation investments and they were wanting Sena to have a more notable role in the story?
 
because squeenix wanted Blackrock or some other liberal slanted corporation investments and they were wanting Sena to have a more notable role in the story
This is infintely depressing to think about, yet strangely plausible.

There's a special place in hell for these companies that incentivize the butchering of artistic output like this. One of my least favorite parts of the current era of gaming.
 
Is it possible that Dawntrail’s story was already written but had to be rewritten because squeenix wanted Blackrock or some other liberal slanted corporation investments and they were wanting Sena to have a more notable role in the story?
I suspect the second half of the story was rewritten to decrease Krile's role, and to shove Wuk in as much as possible.
 
I suspect the second half of the story was rewritten to decrease Krile's role, and to shove Wuk in as much as possible.
Why stop at half?
The entire story was clearly butchered to put Lumak front and center at literally any given time.
Even when it dared for a moment try and veer away from Lumak for a moment to do some development on another character Lumak crashes in, kicks your dogs and flips your table until the story paid attention to them, ensuring that nothing ever happened for anyone else.
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I have a weird schizo theory for why the story in Dawntrail ended up so bad. Is it possible that Wuk Lamat speaks so many lines because certain people wanted Sena Bryer to voice act a certain quota of lines just so they could have it printed on their resume as a “lead voice actor role”. Is it possible that Dawntrail’s story was already written but had to be rewritten because squeenix wanted Blackrock or some other liberal slanted corporation investments and they were wanting Sena to have a more notable role in the story?

If this were the case they'd be trumpeting Sena from the rooftops marketing-wise, like HBO has been with Abigail Thorn.

To me, it seems pretty bizarre that they aren't leveraging that at all, and I feel that Square largely wants to wash their hands of him and everything we've been subjected to has been them trying to salvage shit.

I do think that Sena had an 'in' with Kate, but I think it's just an instance of new creative team with the senior creatives not being available to provide as much oversight.

We'll know more once we get to 6.2.
 
Dawntrail has me completely blackpilled on future content. Learning that Ishikawa and Koji no longer have strong roles in the writing makes me lose all hope.

I was so excited to learn more about Galuf Baldesion after enjoying Eureka, after all the years of Krile accompanying us since Heavensward. I thought this was going to be her shining moment. Krile was the reason Minfilia had the Scions stay behind at the Waking Sands instead of moving to Rising Stones due to Garlean threat. Krile helped us with the Warring Triad threat. Krile was who helped save Yshtola when Zenos nearly killed her clean. We saved Krile from Garlemald when Fordola's gang kidnapped her. Krile was who kept the Scions healthy while their souls were spirited away by the Crystal Exarch.

This character was like a wounded up rubber band with so much potential to be unleashed to reveal who she was. She had even assumed a combat job so she could be in the middle of combat with us. Instead, she is cast aside for the irrelevant Wuk Lamat and an even more irrelevant conflict.

Now, I have no hope. I don't want to visit Corvos for more lore on Garlean history, Allag, Reapers, and G'raha Tia. I don't want us to visit other shards. I don't want to explore any more of Emet Selch's suggestions. If the writing doesn't improve by Patch 7.3, I have to give up. Dawntrail was such a dramatic drop in quality, I don't understand Square Enix has not formally apologized or even addressed how bad Dawntrail is. It makes me feel like they really don't care anymore. With the announcement of the Final Fantasy XIV app with Tencent partnership, I just can't anymore, bros.
 
Dawntrail has me completely blackpilled on future content. Learning that Ishikawa and Koji no longer have strong roles in the writing makes me lose all hope.
Been blackpilled since Endwalker.
The entire Space ship/Moon thing was dumb, and poorly paced.
And I think the largets and most egresious case of "lol writers forgor" is the fact we have a space ship already. Ironworks literally already has one. In ARR coils raid you literaly go through an Allagan spaceship hanger, and docked is the spaceship ragnarok from FF8.

Edit; Actualy that entire xpac was just awful I hated every moment of it lol.
The Elipis and Meteon stuff should of been post-patch story, while MSQ ended at Zodiark it was insane how fast Garlean empire/Zodiark was swept under the rug.
 
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I dunno why this bothers me in such an autistic way, but every time I see people conflate the aether that makes up a soul/memories along with the aether that makes up a physical body, it always fucks me off. The 2 are completely separate forms of aether and can't be smashed together so nonchalantly so solve all the world's aether issues like everyone seems to think. Even supposed "lore experts" get this wrong almost every time.

There's an entire quest and power point that teaches you about this exact thing in Endwalker and everyone just instantly forgot about it the moment they hit the complete button.
 
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I dunno why this bothers me in such an autistic way, but every time I see people conflate the aether that makes up a soul/memories along with the aether that makes up a physical body, it always fucks me off. The 2 are completely separate forms of aether and can't be smashed together so nonchalantly so solve all the world's aether issues like everyone seems to think. Even supposed "lore experts" get this wrong almost every time.

There's an entire quest and power point that teaches you about this exact thing in Endwalker and everyone just instantly forgot about it the moment they hit the complete button.
Probably because Aether is basically Mako/Mana and in every other Secret of Mana/Final Fantasy 7/etc game, it is an all-encompassing energy that everything is comprised of. Like the God Particle/Higgs Boson.
 
The new raid tier looks cool but I've lost most of my enthusiasm for this game because of the story.

Forcing myself through DT's MSQ permanently instilled some kind of Pavlovian response in my brain that made me stop giving a shit. I dunno, if the foray is good I might come back but the mood is definitely different in-game now.

I wonder if this is how Trails people feel playing the new games.
 
Been blackpilled since Endwalker.
The entire Space ship/Moon thing was dumb, and poorly paced.
And I think the largets and most egresious case of "lol writers forgor" is the fact we have a space ship already. Ironworks literally already has one. In ARR coils raid you literaly go through an Allagan spaceship hanger, and docked is the spaceship ragnarok from FF8.

Edit; Actualy that entire xpac was just awful I hated every moment of it lol.
The Elipis and Meteon stuff should of been post-patch story, while MSQ ended at Zodiark it was insane how fast Garlean empire/Zodiark was swept under the rug.
Coil raid takes place in the pieces of Dalamud, which isn't a spaceship but something akin to a Dyson Sphere and space station. A Dyson sphere is an idea that a civilization's energy troubles would be solved by efficiently harnessing the energy ejected by a star by enclosing it or surrounding it (dyson swarm) in solar panel-like objects. Dalamud is a giant solar panel satellite lab jail...thingy.

The idea behind Dalamud was to create a self-sustaining celestial structure that could house Bahamut but also function as a laboratory for other projects. The energy required was massive, and that energy needed somewhere to be stored when over-produced as well. So the Allagans designed the Crystal Tower to serve as a massive battery and Dalamud to serve as a Dyson Sphere, using energy from the sun to maintain it's own systems. The energy used by Allag was housed in the tower so it was really the peak of their civilization. When we are walking into for Coil raids are pieces of the mega structure that was once Dalamud.

It sucks that G'raha seemingly has no intention on using the Crystal Tower or Dalamud for anything besides that bullshit with Ultima Thule and Ragnarok (he's probably just being considerate because the calamity wasnt that long ago lol). Urianger stated the Endless of Living Memory would require energy that would bust the universe and all shards, but where did that calculation come from? How does he know how much energy it would take to sustain Endless without having been to Living Memory? I hate shit writers so much onG frfr.
 
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Coil raid takes place in the pieces of Dalamud, which isn't a spaceship but something akin to a Dyson Sphere and space station.
Yes, but the first part of the raid takes place in the literal dock, for spaceships, and there is a whole and intact ship in that dock, Not that Dalamud was a spaceship lol. I know the whole point of Dalamud, and it was part of why I think Endwalker and the moon was so stupid. It wasn't like Zodiark was in a secret prison under the moon, he was a giant glowing beacon on the surface.
And the Allagans were literally space faring at that point and harvesting aether from the literal sun AND from Dalamud.

and nobody noticed the stupid rabbits?
The giant crack and prison? C'mon.
 
I dunno why this bothers me in such an autistic way, but every time I see people conflate the aether that makes up a soul/memories along with the aether that makes up a physical body, it always fucks me off. The 2 are completely separate forms of aether and can't be smashed together so nonchalantly so solve all the world's aether issues like everyone seems to think. Even supposed "lore experts" get this wrong almost every time.

There's an entire quest and power point that teaches you about this exact thing in Endwalker and everyone just instantly forgot about it the moment they hit the complete button.
Because it is a fucking stupid thing, as canon as it may be. It is poorly introduced and feels shoehorned; until that point we know of Aether in general as the building block of EVERYTHING, it is not until much later that the distinction is made because plot. (and technically it is introduced in late stormblood tough not directly mentioned or elaborated on at least until post-SHB)

That and it serves to fuel one of the most idiotic conflicts in the game to date, add it being incredibly rare to get yet affected by porxies (i.e. their anti tempering thingmajing) just adds inconsistency to the stupid soup.

Having Aether compose the realm of the physical and low-arcane while Dynamis comprises the realm of the esoteric would have been a much more elegant approach, it would also go a long way to explain just why there's so much of the latter around, as even a rat could give off significant amounts of it through its entire existence just by being happy it got cheese or scared of humans.

Instead we get Aether*HQ, soul edition.
 
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Not going to lie, I'm very much hesitant to pick up DT and give it a shot, after reading all these reviews. I mean, I personally enjoyed Endwalker for all its flaws, but from what I've seen on Dawntrail, it's really looking like I should just drop the game; it's not looking good.

Granted, part of me does hope that the dev team might be able to possibly try and fix this... but from what I've heard, I think they might've honestly just destroyed the story entirely. I really don't see how they're going to be able to come back from this; the overall history of Tural, the characterization/bastardization of characters, the Wuk Lamat focus, the fact that the expansion was supposed to be "the ultimate summer vacation" but the writers outright lying to us and giving us diet Endwalker...

To be honest with you guys, I've got no idea if I should try and jump back in at some point in the future. I do want to enjoy what content that we've gotten, but... it's REALLY not sounding like it's worth it. Granted, I've been enjoying GW2's gameplay even though the story and lore are hot wokeshit garbage, so...?

To take a step away from the story for a moment; what about the jobs? From what I've heard, Dark Knight is really weak, while Picto and Viper are really strong; anyone have any thoughts on the others? I tried giving Dancer and Ninja a shot back in Endwalker; wasn't too fond of them, personally they felt really weak, but I'm curious if they feel better now?
 
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Not going to lie, I'm very much hesitant to pick up DT and give it a shot, after reading all these reviews. I mean, I personally enjoyed Endwalker for all its flaws, but from what I've seen on Dawntrail, it's really looking like I should just drop the game; it's not looking good.

Granted, part of me does hope that the dev team might be able to possibly try and fix this... but from what I've heard, I think they might've honestly just destroyed the story entirely. I really don't see how they're going to be able to come back from this; the overall history of Tural, the characterization/bastardization of characters, the Wuk Lamat focus, the fact that the expansion was supposed to be "the ultimate summer vacation" but the writers outright lying to us and giving us diet Endwalker...

To be honest with you guys, I've got no idea if I should try and jump back in at some point in the future. I do want to enjoy what content that we've gotten, but... it's REALLY not sounding like it's worth it. Granted, I've been enjoying GW2's gameplay even though the story and lore are hot wokeshit garbage, so...?

To take a step away from the story for a moment; what about the jobs? From what I've heard, Dark Knight is really weak, while Picto and Viper are really strong; anyone have any thoughts on the others? I tried giving Dancer and Ninja a shot back in Endwalker; wasn't too fond of them, personally they felt really weak, but I'm curious if they feel better now?
If you want to keep to gameplay only, dungeons, trials are raid are at the kinoest level they have ever been, just be ready to slap the skip cutscene button a hundred times.

It's to the point the tinfoil retard in me feels this entire expansion was a way to sell a shitload of story skip MTX.
 
I let my sub expire and uninstalled the game the other night after catching up on 7.1. I will not return until the following occur (at a MINIMUM):

1. Hiroi is fired and a new, competent writer with an actual good resume is hired.

2. Kate is fired

3. Sena Bryer is fired (seems like he's already out if only because of the the VA strike however)

4. Squeenix severs all ties to Sweet Baby inc or whatever consultant company Yoshi mentioned in that one article they hired to ensure Dawntrail wasn't "offensive"

5. Unfuck the jobs, actually give every job their identity back and undo the homogenization

6. Yoshi P gets on stage and publicly apologizes and then resigns in shame for selling FFXIV out for DEI bux, forcing the game to stick to such rigid unchanging and bland formulas for so long, for his innumerable false promises and outright lies over the years, and for he and his team being ever-increasingly cheap, lazy and apathetic with the game (still waiting on Viera being able to wear hats)

And while I know I'm monkey-pawing with that last request, after going through Endwalker and Dawntrail, I don't want that guy involved with this game anymore in any capacity. The stale formulas, the class homogenization and dumbing down of the game, the lazy production (they can't even be bothered to make sure Miqo or Au Ra tails clip through armor with certain sets now and just cut them off, ontop of headwear cutting off Miqo ears too now). All of that was bad enough.

But when I read that article where he admits he consulted a DEI company of the same vein as Sweet Baby Inc. (if not actually them) to do perform a cultural sensitivity sweep of the entire expansion, and then after having actually played it and seen the ultimatle, horrific result, I lost any remaining respect for that man and would rather take the risk with a new director (who may actually shake things up in a positive way, and not bend the knee to the woke mob) vs letting Yoshi P stick around to drive this game further drive this game into the dirt.
 
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Is it possible that Dawntrail’s story was already written but had to be rewritten because squeenix wanted Blackrock or some other liberal slanted corporation investments and they were wanting Sena to have a more notable role in the story?
No. And if you're really enjoining this beyond a meme, spend less time on Kiwi Farms lol

If this was the case, they'd get a Japanese, French, and German troon. If they were just concerned with having a troon as top billing, they'd get one that could actually voice act (and I know, I know, but they exist. They just don't try to voice women. So we'd still have the 'that's not a woman' issue, but it could at least be fun).

Sena clearly took advantage of nepotism and connections to get the role, which suggests a grossly unprofessional getup... but we've known that about the US voice-acting industry for a long time. I mean well before "Vic" was a name anyone cared about, much less the hilarious crackhead grifter who we're all more intimately familiar with. The role in any language is overbloated and reflects really childish, immature writing trends that you'll find in plenty of amateur work, so the sheer amount of lines that the author's manic-pixie-girlfriend sputters out isn't surprising. Koana, again, is clearly supposed to be Hiroi. So yes, he's clearly into half-sibling incest winky-face.

That Sena got the role seems like a confluence of: the adults leaving the room, someone convincing SE that they needed 'authentic' actors for the US-Tural cast (seems like JP/FR/DE all used the same VA studios to me), and that same someone pointing them to this studio that can't even master its fucking audio correctly as "the best choice." It suggests that someone had way, way too much of a say in the process, especially since I can't imagine the US studio was any cheaper to employ than the UK one.

As an aside, again if you're enjoining this line of thinking, I recommend watching like ten seconds of this Patrick Boyle video. DEI shit has never been this insane all-consuming conspiratorial vacuum: it's been a cringeworthy corporate trend that they thought would make them money. From retail investors and purchasers.

The reason so many things have gone to shit is because so many people now making those things... are awful at it. If you work in the corporate sphere, you recognize that like 20% of employees do 90% of the work, and so when that 20% gets moved off to work on something else or retires, you really get to see what those other guys weren't capable of.
It's to the point the tinfoil retard in me feels this entire expansion was a way to sell a shitload of story skip MTX.
This seems much more plausible to me. Because they can apologize and make promises and kiss the floor and all will be forgiven - but this expansion will be forever. It will never improve. It will always be terrible. It will always be the "you really should skip this, there's nothing important there" expansion.

I mean, obviously, this isn't what really happened - what really happened was that the competent people got moved off and the professional moochers got put in the spotlight. The talent pool in CBU3 doesn't feel terribly deep.
Actualy that entire xpac was just awful I hated every moment of it lol.
Endwalker still has some OK moments. Garlemald is too brief, but it's still OK and the lead-up to it is genuinely great. The idea of "everyone you've met along your adventure is helping out!" has a charm to it, even if Labyrinthos and the space ship and rabbits make it all fall flat. The Role Quests make clear how much of a wet fart the End Days were, but on the whole they're actually enjoyable and their culmination sequence felt a lot like what that expac needed more of.

I cannot say the same for Dawntrail. I like the raids, and everything before them, I've hated.
Forcing myself through DT's MSQ permanently instilled some kind of Pavlovian response in my brain that made me stop giving a shit.
I think it's a mix of that awfulness looming and everything just feeling really, really fucking phoned in. While the EW crafting quests weren't anything amazing and didn't pull double-duty like in ShB to flesh out the world, they were at least pleasant little stories. I cannot get through the DT crafting lines - they're abysmally bad.

The DT role quests are also so one-dimensional and flat that I see myself eventually mashing the skip button. They're all one big joke, and the joke isn't funny.
 
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