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Catboy Ranch

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I've been reading the nonsense at CNBC off and on for the last several months and it has become very comical how CNBC is doing everything it can to avoid the flashing warning signs that the economy is going down; in some places, down hard.

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Essentially, the 3 20-year old CNBC poasters left working there does this:
  1. Check NVDA stock. If 1-tick up, write headline for it. Don't give a shit that over ⅔ of the Russ2000 is declining.
  2. There are only 4 stocks. APPL, MSFT, NVDA, GOOG. There are no other stocks. Make sure to write how enthusiastic the 10 retirement fund accounts are about crowding into those 4 stocks.
  3. Ignore the recession in China.
  4. Ignore the tech recession in the USA.
  5. Ignore the realtor collapse and bloodletting in CRE.
  6. Ignore any other danger warnings in economic data that would make people wonder about Biden.
  7. Copy one of the listicles the Listicle Team wrote from the network share and paste it into the website. At least 3x daily.

There are people around me putting in cheap window units to camp out in their bedrooms because they can't A/C their whole house anymore because $.
 
Biomed is one area that has been normally immune from layoffs going back to the 1980s.

As there is a major downsizing bloodsport going on in U.S. hospital networks right now, one of the casualties is Medtronic (naturally, their homepage is splashed with NVDA and AI garbage, because that's what know-nothing fund managers want to see), one of the bigger manufacturers:


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Medtronic (NYSE: MDT)+ today confirmed a global layoffs first reported last month by MassDevice.

At the time, a spokesperson for the world’s largest medical device company declined to confirm the Medtronic layoffs when asked, only saying “Medtronic continually evaluates its operations and aligns our resources with our highest strategic priorities.”

Today, the company reiterated that messaging, adding in a statement to the Star Tribune in Minneapolis that the efforts mean “the company will reduce roles across our global workforce.”

Reached for comment by MassDevice today, the Medtronic spokesperson again declined to confirm the cuts or offer more details.

“There’s nothing new here,” the spokesperson emailed. “The Strib wrote based on [MassDevice’s] previous reporting.”

It’s hard to tell how deep Medtronic has cut its workforce in recent years through reorganizations or last year’s voluntary early retirement program.

“Our top priority is restoring our earnings power — full stop,” Medtronic CEO and Chair Geoff Martha said in January, citing the reorganizations as part of that effort. That same day, he announced plans to close at least five manufacturing sites and consolidate eight distribution centers to two “super distribution centers.”

Medtronic declined to offer details on those plans.

Medtronic layoffs are difficult to quantify because the company does not publicly share details of job cuts except what is required by state laws covering mass layoffs.

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John Deere sending most of its manufacturing activity to Mexico.


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One longtime John Deere worker in East Moline, Illinois anonymously told The Guardian that "we get wind of more layoffs daily, it seems, and it's causing uncertainty all over."

"The only reason for Deere to do this," the worker added, "is greed."

UAW Local 838 president Tim Cummings issued a statement last month calling on John Deere to "stop outsourcing and bring these products back to our factories and allow our talented workforce to produce these products at home where they are used by North American farmers and businesses."
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Best Buy stores are becoming even more lonelier places.


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Best Buy carried out another round of layoffs and job restructurings last week, with the company cutting some of its sales staff and reducing the pay for others, according to current and former employees who spoke with The Verge. Multiple people said their new pay will be much lower due to the changes.

The layoffs appeared to have mostly targeted in-home sales roles called designers, who would go to customers’ homes to help identify products that would work in their space. It’s not clear how many were let go, but designers who weren’t laid off have been moved into a different, largely in-store role. Also, pay scales for a similar, existing in-store “consultant” position were revamped.

Best Buy confirmed the layoffs in an email to The Verge but declined to share how many people were let go or how pay was changing. “Many of our team members were moved to new areas or roles where our customers need it most,” Best Buy spokesperson Ryan Furlong told The Verge. He said some employees in Best Buy’s “Design and Consult workforce” — the collection of roles with in-store workers (called consultants) and in-home field sales positions (called designers) — will be transitioned into a new “Premium Designer role.”

Best Buy has been drastically restructuring in recent months, responding to factors like falling sales after the pandemic spiked consumer electronics spending. Best Buy CEO Corie Barry told investors in February that they should expect layoffs this year, and two months ago, mass layoffs of Geek Squad employees were reported. Barry repeated similar things during the company’s first quarter earnings call in May, saying that many of Best Buy’s moves to “right size” its business “are being implemented throughout this year.”

Consultants, who previously earned commission on in-store sales, will now be paid based on an average of their previous year’s sales, said one employee who requested anonymity to speak about the changes. Consultants refer some customers to designers, who would go to customers’ homes and help them choose products like Wi-Fi routers or smart home gear to fit their space.

One former employee, who was a designer before being laid off, said people in that role were paid a base $60,000 salary plus commission. Those who weren’t laid off will now earn minimum wage, plus altered commission rates that “won’t make up for the drop in pay.” Before, they said, it was “easy to clear anywhere from $90K - 120K in the role.”

The “in-house advisor” program, which had been going since 2017 according to those I corresponded with, had already been shrinking. One employee said that there was usually one designer per store when it started, but the company gradually reduced designer headcounts. By the time this person was laid off, they were responsible for several stores, they said.

With just over 1,000 stores, the raw number of designers let go is likely low, but others were also affected — one of the employees told me the company also laid off “the majority” of a team that “handled all of our remodels and resets in our stores for redesigns and product launches.”

Some who posted that they were laid off claimed to have been working for Best Buy for more than 10 yearssometimes far more. Employees we spoke with reported having been with the company for over 20 years.

Beyond the layoffs, Best Buy has been pulling back across the board in response to sales slowdowns. The retailer is also getting out of physical media sales, retreating from the Samsung authorized repair program, and starting to use generative AI for customer troubleshooting and order support.
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What's the deal with that, anyway? Is it just a market correction from overhiring after COVID? Too many incompetent Indians running everyone into the ground? Silicon Valley becoming a lawless hellhole? Like, what exactly is going on?
VCs that borrow-to-lend are totally out of business. When private lending rates were below 5% it cost nothing to throw cash at anything and see what sticks. The one winner will pay for the 20 other losers and you still come out way ahead.

Now you can't even borrow. The higher the rates, the less room you have for failures.
 

This spot-on recession indicator is flashing red​


'Schannep Recession Indicator' typically triggers within six weeks of the start of a recession

A "recession is underway," and we're just waiting for corroboration by the National Bureau of Economic Research, the semi-official arbiter of when recessions begin.

That's the confident prediction I received a few days ago from Jack Schannep, former editor of the TheDowTheory.com investment newsletter. He bases his conviction on an indicator he created in 2000 called the "Schannep Recession Indicator" (SRI), which corresponds to trends in the U.S. unemployment rate.

According to Manuel Blay, Schannep's successor, in the U.S. since 1946 there have been 12 recessions; "all of them were spotted by the SRI." Blay adds that the SRI issued only one false signal - in October 1959, six months prior to the recession that commenced in April 1960. (The SRI's track record since the late 1940s is summarized here.)

The SRI is based on the three-month moving average of the unemployment rate. A recession signal is triggered when it rises by at least 0.4 percentage points from that moving average's prior cyclical low. The SRI's latest signal was triggered on June 7 with the report of May's unemployment rate of 4.0%, which brought the three-month moving average to 3.9%. That's 0.4 percentage point higher than where the moving average stood in April of last year.

Schannep says he developed his indicator after investigating news media reports that a recession occurs whenever the U.S. unemployment rate rises by more than three-tenths of a percentage point. Schannep found this to be close, with the provisions that the threshold is 0.4 of a percentage point; the focus is on the unemployment rate's three-month moving average, and the comparison is to that moving average's prior cyclical low.

There is a similarity between the SRI and the so-called Sahm Rule, introduced in 2019 by Claudia Sahm, a former Federal Reserve economist. There are two major differences, however: first, the Sahm Rule doesn't trigger until the three-month moving average rises by at least 0.5 of a percentage point, in contrast to 0.4 for the SRI. Second, the Sahm Rule compares the latest three-month average to its trailing 12-month low, while the SRI compares it to the most recent cyclical low - which could be more than 12 months in the past. The Sahm Rule has not indicated a recession is imminent or underway. Still, if a U.S. recession is not already here, it's near.

Recessions are notoriously hard to predict

You might wonder why we even need an indicator to predict when the National Bureau of Economic Research will declare that a recession has begun. Why not just rely on the NBER to tell us? The answer is that the NBER often takes many months, sometimes more than a year, to determine when a recession has begun. Sometimes the recession has been over by the time the NBER verifies that it began - the recessions of 1990-1991 and 2001, for example.

An indicator that accurately signals a recession closer to real time clearly would be valuable. Blay reports that the "average lag from the recession's onset and the [Schannep Recession Indicator] signal's date is 1.58 months."

A good illustration is the recession that accompanied the Global Financial Crisis, which the NBER subsequently declared began in December 2007. The SRI was triggered in early February 2008 upon the release of the January 2008 unemployment rate - two months into the recession and nearly a year prior to the December 2008 NBER announcement.

Humility remains a virtue in this business, however, since the graveyards of Wall Street are filled with those whose confident predictions of an imminent recession turned out to be failures. Take the inverted yield curve, which used to be considered a nearly foolproof indicator of an imminent recession. But not this time: the yield curve became inverted in July 2022. Or take a Bloomberg Economics recession model, which in October 2022 declared that the probability of a recession beginning within one year was 100%.

As Sahm conceded in a blog post last December, even if her model were to indicate that a recession were either already underway or imminent, "a recession [would still not be]... a done deal... This time could easily be different."

Mark Hulbert is a regular contributor to MarketWatch. His Hulbert Ratings tracks investment newsletters that pay a flat fee to be audited. TheDowTheory.com, the subject of this report, is not one of the newsletters Hulbert Ratings tracks. Hulbert can be reached at mark@hulbertratings.com

More: The bond market is sounding a recession alarm for the longest period on record. What that may mean for the stock market.

Plus: 'U.S. growth is exceptional': World Bank sees America fueling the global economy in 2024
 

How bad is the housing market recession? Existing home sales are back to 1978 levels


The recession in the U.S. market for existing homes has been so deep that April sales were back to the late—'70s levels—despite the population growth since that time, according to recent data from the National Association of Realtors:

April 1978: 4.09 million U.S. existing home sales
April 2024: 4.14 million U.S. existing home sales

1978: 223 million U.S. population
2024: 341 million U.S. population

The reason, of course, it that housing affordability has deteriorated so much that many buyers and sellers alike have pulled back from the market. Many homeowners who would otherwise like to sell and buy something else are staying put rather than trading in their 3% mortgage rate for a 7% mortgage rate.

In addition, according to a forecast published this week by Goldman Sachs, the recovery for existing home sales could be a slog.
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Goldman Sachs projects that existing home sales will slowly drift up from 4.1 million in 2024 to 4.5 million in 2027. Not only is that far below the 6.1 million during the height of the pandemic housing boom in 2021, it's also well below the 5.3 million U.S. existing home sales during "normal" times in 2019.

While this recession for existing home sales has coincided with pricing corrections in some pandemic boomtowns in parts of Texas and Colorado, many housing markets in the Northeast and Midwest where inventory has remained tight have continued to see rising home prices.

Additionally, the U.S. market for new homes has fared much better than the market for existing homes. There are two reasons for this.

1) Single-family homebuilders don't have a "lock-in effect"—they can continue to develop and build new homes.

2) Homebuilders, where needed, have introduced affordability adjustments like outright home price cuts or mortgage rate buydowns to move product. Many sellers in the existing market have resisted coming down on price.

Goldman Sachs predicts the average 30-year fixed mortgage rate will fall to 6.5% by the end of 2024, and to 6.3% by the end of 2025.

And analysts at the investment bank forecast that U.S. home prices will rise 3.8% in 2024, followed by 4.4% in 2025.
 
@Catboy Ranch if you're just going to post a bunch of articles, the thread should be in A&N or they need to be in private tags. To not affect the site's SEO. Supposedly search engines will penalize us for copypastaing articles and that's ONE reason why A&N needs a login.
 
What's the deal with that, anyway? Is it just a market correction from overhiring after COVID? Too many incompetent Indians running everyone into the ground? Silicon Valley becoming a lawless hellhole? Like, what exactly is going on?
The bubble of Steve Jobs wannabes selling gimmicky pipe dreams has gone kablooie.
 
I just wish our pozzed neoshitlib governments would stop fearing the "D" word and start calling this shit what it is: A depression.
What is the difference between a recession and depression? I know they changed the definition of recession a couple years back
 
There is so much pump and dump you can only see Huang's white hair.
 

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Another day, another pump for NVDA

Nevermind that consumer sales data just out is showing a pullback in all but 6 categories.

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