Dramacow FineBros - Copyrighting React Videos Controversy, the Ongoing Shitstorm, Sadly Increasing Subs

I've noticed a few people in the thread assuming that the drama is over. And while it is true that the rate of losing subscribers has slowed, I believe we haven't even hit the peak yet. Why?

This isn't even about the fine bros. I don't think it ever really was.

This is about Youtube as whole. People are angry at youtube, and the fine bros just happened to be caught doing the way wrong thing at the worst time possible.

Let's look at what has happened on Youtube lately. IHE's channel (and other channels) have been removed. Nostalgia Critic recently came out with the news that his videos lost monetization with no explanation of why, and he asked Youtube to clarify this occurrence for 3 whole weeks without any word in response. And, to top things off, smaller fish in the youtube sea - who might have otherwise stayed silent - have since piped up about how they've been screwed by Youtube's shady handling of flagging, copyright, etc.

Abuses of these systems are nothing new, but tensions around this issue have come to a boil within the past week or so.

Only amplifying the anger is the fact that you can't fight Youtube. They have a monopoly on online video services, so no matter how many IHE or Nostalgia Critic-sized channels make a stink about these shady polices, the company really has no reason to do anything. They have nothing to lose.

It is in this sort of environment that the Fine Bros, with seemingly no amount of savvy or awareness of these tensions, have basically announced that they have found innovative and world-changing ways to abuse Youtube's copyright system. And now, as a result, we have the easiest target in the world. It takes about 2 seconds to dislike, unsubscribe, and hurt the Fine Bros channel - protesting Youtube's practices by proxy - and no one can do shit to stop this. There aren't even any loyal fans who might sway opinion or rally a defense. Literally no one will save the Fine Bros from an angry mob that has just been waiting for something tangible to fight.

Yes, things are slowing down now. However, I suspect that IHE and other medium-to-large channels will start uploading responses to and analyses of this situation within the next few days, which will only raise awareness and incite more anger. And god help them if a huge youtuber like Pewdiepie says something.

Either way, this is just the beginning. So grab the popcorn.

TL;DR Youtube has been fucking things up for awhile, and no one can stop that, so the Fine Bros and their abuse of Youtube's system have become the target of people's rage instead.

Or of course there's an alternate explanation...

Jesus is once again punishing some Jews for killing him.
 
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Karen Riley said:
Being honest the Fine Bros probably took the best action possible announcing that they were dropping all trademark applications and the React World idea. This wasn't going to go away, especially with stringently insisting the plan had honest intentions and was innovative and ground breaking for the internet like they did in their update video.

It's just incredibly transparent that ir took them to lose hundreds of thousands of subscribers and to risk wrath from their sponsors before they took this action. You can just tell if reaction had been negative but they hadn't been attacked in these ways they'd have stuck to their guns and that makes me glad to see their brand suffering so much.
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I think it was all because if me and my doing. Think about it, a few hours after I unsubscribe then they make that announcement and deletes their videos. It's too much of a coincidence.

They were so upset about losing me as a subscriber that they admitted that they were wrong In the way they handled the situation.

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Gato da Vida said:
I've noticed a few people in the thread assuming that the drama is over. And while it is true that the rate of losing subscribers has slowed, I believe we haven't even hit the peak yet. Why?

This isn't even about the fine bros. I don't think it ever really was.

This is about Youtube as whole. People are angry at youtube, and the fine bros just happened to be caught doing the way wrong thing at the worst time possible.

Let's look at what has happened on Youtube lately. IHE's channel (and other channels) have been removed. Nostalgia Critic recently came out with the news that his videos lost monetization with no explanation of why, and he asked Youtube to clarify this occurrence for 3 whole weeks without any word in response. And, to top things off, smaller fish in the youtube sea - who might have otherwise stayed silent - have since piped up about how they've been screwed by Youtube's shady handling of flagging, copyright, etc.

Abuses of these systems are nothing new, but tensions around this issue have come to a boil within the past week or so.

Only amplifying the anger is the fact that you can't fight Youtube. They have a monopoly on online video services, so no matter how many IHE or Nostalgia Critic-sized channels make a stink about these shady polices, the company really has no reason to do anything. They have nothing to lose.

It is in this sort of environment that the Fine Bros, with seemingly no amount of savvy or awareness of these tensions, have basically announced that they have found innovative and world-changing ways to abuse Youtube's copyright system. And now, as a result, we have the easiest target in the world. It takes about 2 seconds to dislike, unsubscribe, and hurt the Fine Bros channel - protesting Youtube's practices by proxy - and no one can do shit to stop this. There aren't even any loyal fans who might sway opinion or rally a defense. Literally no one will save the Fine Bros from an angry mob that has just been waiting for something tangible to fight.

Yes, things are slowing down now. However, I suspect that IHE and other medium-to-large channels will start uploading responses to and analyses of this situation within the next few days, which will only raise awareness and incite more anger. And god help them if a huge youtuber like Pewdiepie says something.

Either way, this is just the beginning. So grab the popcorn.

TL;DR Youtube has been fucking things up for awhile, and no one can stop that, so the Fine Bros and their abuse of Youtube's system have become the target of people's rage instead.

Or of course there's an alternate explanation...

Jesus is once again punishing some Jews for killing him.
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So they're the Zoe Quinn of YouTube-Gate?
 
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Zvantastika said:
They already monetized (allegedly) a video of a german girl reacting to being punched by immigrants.

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Not sure if it's real but at this point who cares, the fire is already at full and there's no brakes on the unsub train.
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Is this real?
 
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Subconcious Offense said:
Guys, IT'S HAPPENING https://medium.com/@FineBrothersEnt/a-message-from-the-fine-brothers-a18ef9b31777#.ux2p0iya1

Basically they're stopping the whole thing, while claiming they weren't ever going to spam hostile generic takedowns, while declaring they will cancel all existing hostile generic takedowns.

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Guys, seeing as their sub count still falls down like people with polio, I think no one believed them.
2k subs gone in the past hour, you'd think they have no credibility, with a record of lying to everyone, or something.
Do you think the bots will watch their content when the people stop?
 
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The apology is so half assed.
They don't even realize how big the trench is they dug themselves into. One back-pedalling' apology isn't going to make up for the 300 thousand(and counting!) subscriber loss. The Fine Bros still have to cancel/abort the trademarking process and depending on how far it is along the way, the veto might not do jack shit.
tldr: they fucked up
EDIT: I fucked up on my counting :oops:
 
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