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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 56 7.3%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 87 11.4%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 169 22.1%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 405 53.0%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.2%

  • Total voters
    764
Ben is not happy with Josie's recent plushy sales and has a talk with her. Jet comes up and ropes her into some adverts to help make up for her lack of sales.
Letty pops in later on.
Some common ground for Josie and Letty Simps.

Jet says he'll cut "Josie sleep cam" if viewers don't buy more plushies and comments that it's "what everyone watches at night," implying Josie has a bunch of creeps watching her all night.



Josie really hated doing this
 
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That's the most annoying aspect of her.
>People decide to talk alone
Letty just has to be there or at least close enough to hear the conversation. She would be a perfect government employee lol.
This time Jet went out and got her for the bit since "She has the second biggest army of simps."
I didn't catch when Hassle was there, why'd he end up leaving? Guessing he was being a retarded mong, as is his style.
Seems like he was planned to be there for a few days then bounce. He was being a retarded mong, though.
The narrative is that Simon broke Fishtank and they canceled it, then another network picked them up but there would be changes and getting rid of Hassle was one such change due to all the stuff he did.
He acted upset over this and went upstairs to tear up each room; Letty's room (B3) got the brunt of it.
 
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You got the one where he almost killed himself but with sound?
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He tried copying Sam's beer trip but with metal piping. You can see him physically ACK for a bit.

Also his bald spot looks so much worse. At first it looked like he was just balding but now there is little to no hair on his crown.
I don't. I just uploaded the ones I found somewhere else.

If you can narrow down the day/time maybe someone with access to archives can clip it?
 
I can find an incident pretty quick if someone gives me the day and room.
 
I can only see a lawsuit happening if they completely botch the ending and some enterprising firm decides to go after them pro-bono. I've seen similar things with less ridiculous contracts but I doubt it will happen.

Forgot to mention that Letty's ex is STILL posting random photos on the /ftl as recently as this Sunday. I hope she has someone to tell her what's going on when she gets out although I don't know exactly what she can do besides keep the restraining order going.
 
I hope I'm wrong but I'm going to be a bit upset when they just give this whole thing to Josie at the end because she has the most simps. It's clear Letty is the most savage fish in the tank and at this point I think she definitely dersrves to win it all. Josie's autism girl bit has worn thin, Vance is wallpaper, and Sylvia only exists to get fucked with.
 
Some want the heckin wholesome friendship and character development/zoomer recovery simulator.
Some want it to be the promised hell house (with bullying and shark harassment or bullying and body fluid-tier shenanigans).
Some want it to be more reality-game show (scheming, plotting, challenges and eliminations).
It shouldn't be the first one at all, but that is literally all it is at this point.
Jet was warned by everyone after the Jon coddling that it would lead to the show getting progressively worse, but he didn't listen.
It's now just a parasocial relationship simulator for redditors.

Feels like absolutely 0 stakes for any of them, they just need to sleep, eat and sometimes talk or do a gay roleplay challenge that makes half the viewers turn off.
They need the same backbone they had during the LGBT parade invasion and to not give in when one of them starts getting slightly peeved.
Sam has entirely dropped the "Jason Goldstriker" persona and Jet is just running a hotel for lazy zoomers.

The biggest slap in the face to viewers is that Jet the whole time mentioned that the show had to "ramp up" over time, which we all respected and understood. But it's taken a fat nosedive beyond recovery.
 
Letty pouring coke in Josie's room, on the floor and the bed. She's trying to take her role as Frank's apprentice seriously.



Jet snitching and telling her that Sylvia is the culprit.

 
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That's the most annoying aspect of her.
>People decide to talk alone
Letty just has to be there or at least close enough to hear the conversation. She would be a perfect government employee lol.
lol I was thinking that, since shes an e girl shes like the master of doing shit like fucking with people and wearing a million different masks. People were saying they think shes like a 4 channer?

It seems like shes kind of opportunistic and she knows how to push the envelope but when to pull back. Like when she got drunk or when she was doing shit with Vance in that mom roleplay and goes 'youre not normal either'--its got some venom and truth to it, same with kind-of flirting with Chris then going 'people think Im flirting but Im not'.

I get the whole 'no electronics or anything to do', rule and the 'you cant get drunk and/or high all day' because they wanted them to interact and I guess fuck with each other rather than all go back to their rooms and fuck around on instagram or whatever, talking to their real friends. But since they didnt give them anything else to do, theyre just sitting around bored in the free time. Like Chris will start talking to himself and singing, Vance or whoever goes and mopes and gets bored and depressed, Sylvia will walk around and talk to people but shes not interesting and gets fucked with and gets mad which eggs them on. Josie and Letty dont care and it kinda shows, but Josie brought shit to do and will talk to chat because shes probably been told she has the most simps. Letty sometimes does that because she knows probably, but mostly wanders around eavesdropping and since shes a girl its not a creep thing--but shes always taking notes then joins in and uses it to fuck with people in different ways.

Some want the heckin wholesome friendship and character development/zoomer recovery simulator.
Some want it to be the promised hell house (with bullying and shark harassment or bullying and body fluid-tier shenanigans).
Some want it to be more reality-game show (scheming, plotting, challenges and eliminations).
I think in order for it to work it had to have followed the big brother thing, But to me that works because it starts a 1-- to build the characters and development, then advances to 2 and 3. Right now its all 3 and they want it to be for the money, but it doesnt work and I dont think it can be only 1 of the 3, I dont think it could be only 2 either.
 
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Too bad Farms has been down lately so most of the Freeloader Era is not documented. There's so much to unpack about the last week, but couple of general observations about the show lately:

- The overall quality has taken a complete nosedive. It seems the contestants nor the producers give a single fuck anymore and everything is so half-assed. The common theme seems to be that Jet/producers think of some convoluted, but half-baked idea on the spot, everybody goes with it for a while, but the whole thing is soon forgotten and the show goes on as per usual. Like with the camping challenge there was a whole thing about Letty being the camp captain and everybody had to ask for her permission to do anything (e.g. eat, use porta potty, etc). So everybody went along for a while, but nobody seemed to give a fuck after couple of hours. Same with the Simon's presidency. By the end there were like 10 different rules everybody had to follow and people did for a while, but again, nobody cared after a while. Like one of the rules was that you're not allowed to wear shoes or socks, but lo and behold, Vance was wearing socks the next day and nobody even mentioned it (it's worth noting that regarding that rule, Josie simply bypassed that by taping plastic bags over her feet and everybody was cool with that). Yesterday it was some weird mommy LARP with another set of convoluted rules and there's sure more to follow.

- On the topic of whole Simon's presidency thing, it was extremely weird. Not even worth going into full detail about it, but basically, he was "elected" (read: picked by the producers) to be the leader of the house for two days and was allowed to set rules all people in the house have to follow. One was the shoes thing, other was no vaping or smoking, another one was no sitting one the couch. Last two were that everybody had to watch Airsoft Fatty perform stand-up and work out with him. However, he also had the power to exclude people from following the rules so the first thing he did was to allow for all freeloaders not to follow any of the rules and gave them power to do anything they want with the fishes. So the whole thing quickly turned into some freeloaders vs. fishes Stanford Prison Experiment where Frank was relentlessly bullying everybody (blowing smoke in everybody's faces and spitting on the floor while people were forced to be barefoot, etc) and fishes just kind of had to take it. I think this first day included the worst hour of the show so far where ASF forced the fish to do an hour or bicep curl workout and I'm honestly amazed nobody was hurt during it because none of them (with maybe exception of Vance) do not work out and the weights were way too heavy. Of course the fatty went completely mad with the small piece of power he was given and the video above is basically an hour of him screaming at the fishes in a way one would think he's going to stroke out any second. The second day of presidency the added even more rules even though nobody gave a fuck anymore. The general gist of it was that you have to drink all the time and if you throw up, you don't have to follow any of the rules anymore. So not really that fun.

- None of the freeloaders (with the exception of Lance) have been fun. The first day Lance was there, he was told by the producers to copy everything Vance is doing so it resulted in some pretty funny synchronized sipping and leaning back (basically this clip in TPB where Jacob is copying Julian). Other than that Frank was extremely hostile, ASF is annoying as fuck and Ella was just useless. I get that Frank was there to cause mayhem, but every time he was in a room, it was really uncomfortable to watch. During the last 30 minutes or so he was in the show, he completely trashed to place and committed what could be considered an actual assault on Letty (on the other hand, Letty got him to drink his own piss though).
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ASF is just so annoying I don't want to watch any room he is in. And he is not going to leave because he has had four or five meltdowns about how shit his life is and how he is basically homeless so I think the producers are basically letting him squat there. They should just stick him in the basement with the producers if they feel so much pity for him that they let him stay.

- Nobody seems to have figured out (or the producers are just biased are deliberately not executing these ideas) how to mind break Josie. It's pretty obvious by now that her particular strain of autism makes her extremely unfazed towards any kind of direct abuse. Frank trashed her bedroom more than once, she basically went "erm", cleaned the whole thing up, and just went on with her business. Or you can throw shit all over her and she just goes to wash up and change her clothes. What they should do is go psychological with it and bring in a simp freeloader who is basically clinging to Josie 24/7 (but does not cross physical boundaries). Just some guy who acts extremely suffocating and needy towards her and ramps up the clinginess as time goes on. Maybe he comes into the house wearing a Josie shirt. Maybe he talks to Josie in a weeb-accent, calling her Josie-chan and stuff like that. Maybe he draws pictures of him and Josie with hearts on it and leaves there for Josie to see. Maybe he bombards her with inane questions all the time. Maybe he goes into Josie's room at night and watches her sleep or tries to smell her. Basically, I think someone being up in her business every single moment and being stuck in a house with that person is the only way of getting through to her. Otherwise she just sits there and rocks back and forth.

- I unironically hope Letty wins. She is extremely nasty and manipulative, but she is the only person in the house who can not only dish it out, but also take it. She has basically taken a month of non-stop abuse (she's also in for a good time when she gets back online and sees that her nudes are all over internet) and still not broken (though she seemed very near quitting after Frank assaulted her and trashed the place right before leaving himself). Sylvia seethes about every little thing and Vance/Josie don't seem to give a fuck about anything, but Letty seems to actually be committed to the whole thing. It's obvious that she actually takes the challenges seriously and doesn't phone it in. She's also most social of the bunch (with the exception of ASF talks non-stop every single moment he is awake) and if she left, everybody would just sit in silence with an occasional "yeah" by Vance.

Also, today's challenge is to clean the house? Except Josie is the only one cleaning, Letty is who knows where and everybody else is just laying in beds at 4pm in the afternoon. Real morgue hours in the housefatty.png.
 
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Like one of the rules was that you're not allowed to wear shoes or socks, but lo and behold, Vance was wearing socks the next day and nobody even mentioned it
To be fair, this was intentional by Vance to become Dark Vance where he decided to break all the rules and push it because he thought that's what people wanted.
It turned out there was no real way for Frank to enforce them at that point which further emboldened Vance and he adopted the Dark Vance persona which was painful for everyone.

Simon was ok with this because he bwoke the fishtank and refusing to follow rules illustrated that for some reason.

Nobody seems to have figured out how to mind break Josie.
Queso (her personal plushy) is the most direct way but since it's her personal property they seem keen on keeping it mostly off limits.
As of last night, we now know she really hates doing the bullshit ad reads and making a fool of herself so maybe Jet will keep doing those to her.

Calling out her own bullying and childlike behavior seems to hit, she just hides it. Last night or the night before someone said she has no chance of winning and acts like a child which stopped the stimming in her tracks briefly.

She can justify anything anti-Letty because of Letty's behavior throughout and won't consider it bullying.

Your idea would probably do a good job of pissing her off, throw in the person making coomer jokes as she "don't fuck with that coomer shit."
 
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They need to fix the streams not being synchronized with each other. I'll be watching Sylvia's room, hear something happen in the hallway, switch to hallway cam and the moment is already gone cause the stream in hallway is like +10 seconds ahead or something. Come on bruh, basic shit.
 
Frank trashed her bedroom more than once, she basically went "erm", cleaned the whole thing up, and just went on with her business.
I was wondering if he had done anything to her. I haven't been able to tune in very often, but when I do her room was cleaned and she seemed to just be left alone.

The overall quality has taken a complete nosedive. It seems the contestants nor the producers give a single fuck anymore and everything is so half-assed. The common theme seems to be that Jet/producers think of some convoluted, but half-baked idea on the spot, everybody goes with it for a while, but the whole thing is soon forgotten and the show goes on as per usual.
At first I figured it was just a slow burn that would get crazier as time goes on, but the lack of preparedness is astonishing. MDE was an extremely professional effort by Sam and his team for being their first show, so I figured they could do even the minimum effort of having each day planned out with challenges, and ways to keep the fish from just giving up on them.

I think just having them sit in the house has made things tough. It would have been better to maybe throw them in an empty warehouse with some porta-poties so they could at least have to build their own rooms, do challenges for food or what not. I don't know, but the house idea seems limiting.
 
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