a) Lazy wiggers have shown their dubious morality, laziness, irresponsibility, stupidity and greediness; all that aligns very well with being scammers.
b) If you compare season 2 to season 1, it's evident s2 was lacking in every aspect and making very little money; which means their claim of strong numbers and doubling 2023 revenue are lies.
You're being retarded. Whether it was lacking every aspect is very subjective and not directly related to financial outcome. How do you know it was making less money? I agree that, based on my perception, S2 seemed to have less TTS spam. But in S1, we couldn't tell which TTSs were coming from production. Do you have any numbers on total TTSs for S2? Are you just basing this on your perception? Did you count? And add in calculations for fishtoys for both seasons? Did you account for the increase in season pass price and Clan retardation (lots of tokens were spent on that). I doubt it.
Just based on my own perceptions having watched the show, I wouldn't be surprised to learn S2 had lower profit when you take into account its higher costs. But I don't know shit.
I think your confused when talking about scammers. I don't know any details about this Logan Paul thing (and I won't look it up), but a lot of scams are in a legal grey area. Even scams that are flat-out illegal, well, there is a difference between running a scam and falsely reporting financial information to the authorities. If Fishtank LLC (or whatever) is release public numbers and providing different numbers to the authorities, that is straight-up illegal and I think they will get caught right away.
Maybe you won't buy any of this but there is I think a psychological difference between committing fraud like that and committing a scam (legal differences too). You could argue the crew has already committed a scam in the form of this investment bullshit. Mind you, that shit is 100% legal, just scammy. I think going to outright financial fraud is a huge leap that I don't think they will have taken.
@Mudkipcorn
Yes my perception. Numbers aren't out yet, official nor calculated by nerds. TTS drought, far less viewers, much less fishtoys, almost no plushies, etc.
I agree with everything else you've said. We haven't seen their official numbers and reports to authorities, I'm just going by their statement to investors, and there are lies there, which is also fraud, but maybe wiggers high on whippits think that doesn't count.
How do you know it was making less money? I agree that, based on my perception, S2 seemed to have less TTS spam. But in S1, we couldn't tell which TTSs were coming from production. Do you have any numbers on total TTSs for S2? Are you just basing this on your perception? Did you count? And add in calculations for fishtoys for both seasons? Did you account for the increase in season pass price and Clan retardation (lots of tokens were spent on that). I doubt it.
Your wasting your time writing all this out the guy is basically just trolling at this point. He's going to respond with the same "Jet and the wiggers are meany scammers I just know!" garbage and the cycle continues. I watched both seasons live and the amount of TTS and SFX's were about the same. There was no massive dropoff in viewership or TTS that would be losing them a bunch of money.
Better that than if grandma died in the living room and wasn't' fond for a month. Or grandma died in the tub and wasn't found for a month. Picture that.
I really want to know what the total cost of repairs is going to be. Has to be easily in the tens of thousands of dollars. Didn't Sam have to pay out the ass for expensive custom cupboards last season?
I'm assuming part of the business plan is to remodel the houses and flip them post show anyways. So I'd expect that cost to be built into the resell. It's why Sam is taking advantage of abusing the appliances, carpet, cabinetry, doors, etc. That stuff is all gonna get demoed out anyways. That house was an retro mess, and being partners with Rochefort I don't think the plan ever was to add another layer of paint over the lead and asbestos and try to flip it with stock footage clip art decorations.
About Frank. Sure, he's "violent," but he at least doubles back and checks on people and doesn't make stupid excuses when he throws shit like Fatty does.
I feel like it was crappy to watch but they were aiming for catching Shinji up to where the others were at that point. Tayleigh: one of her biggest fears is bugs walking on her in her sleep; Frank physically manhandling her and cornering her with the expectation that she would be reactive to that as she said when she hit Trish with the Taymaker, spending the night with Charleston White; dealing with Nifty who was basically the personification of her phobia of lesbians; having her force herself to puke again as a recovering bulemic etc. etc. and TJ: Being physically obliterated by Sam Hyde; losing a shot at 10k due to fear of pooping in front of people; kicking Taylor off the show without being able to explain himself; lubecooch; being dogpiled a lot etc.
Up to that point Shinji had: having to steal from Nifty when he wanted to be morally spotless; losing his bestie Jimmy; having his pretty wall art fucked on due to Trish's King of the Day orders; uh...............
He needed to go through some comparative hurdles to catch up, I think it only looked bad because they basically punched him all at once in the face instead of the damage over time everyone else got.
I really want to know what the total cost of repairs is going to be. Has to be easily in the tens of thousands of dollars. Didn't Sam have to pay out the ass for expensive custom cupboards last season?
Honestly, probably not all that much at least in the context of it being a home they had intentions of flipping anyway. The electrical's fine, which is amazing considering they could have easily hit the wiring while destroying the walls. The plumbing's fine, the foundation's fine, all of the really expensive shit that breaks is fine, essentially all they have to do is replace the drywall, the flooring, and one toilet. It's not all that much in the grand scheme of things when you're looking at flipping the home for 500K, especially considering there's a pretty good chance they were going to rip up the carpet anyway, since carpet seems to be falling out of favor. I distinctly remember there was a point where they were having issues with the toilets flushing, and you could clearly see production beginning to panic a bit, likely in no small part because if there's an issue with the plumbing that requires excavation, that could easily eat up their home repair budget right quick.
I feel like it was crappy to watch but they were aiming for catching Shinji up to where the others were at that point. Tayleigh: one of her biggest fears is bugs walking on her in her sleep; Frank physically manhandling her and cornering her with the expectation that she would be reactive to that as she said when she hit Trish with the Taymaker, spending the night with Charleston White; dealing with Nifty who was basically the personification of her phobia of lesbians; having her force herself to puke again as a recovering bulemic etc. etc. and TJ: Being physically obliterated by Sam Hyde; losing a shot at 10k due to fear of pooping in front of people; kicking Taylor off the show without being able to explain himself; lubecooch; being dogpiled a lot etc.
Up to that point Shinji had: having to steal from Nifty when he wanted to be morally spotless; losing his bestie Jimmy; having his pretty wall art fucked on due to Trish's King of the Day orders; uh...............
He needed to go through some comparative hurdles to catch up, I think it only looked bad because they basically punched him all at once in the face instead of the damage over time everyone else got.
I feel like it was crappy to watch but they were aiming for catching Shinji up to where the others were at that point. Tayleigh: one of her biggest fears is bugs walking on her in her sleep; Frank physically manhandling her and cornering her with the expectation that she would be reactive to that as she said when she hit Trish with the Taymaker, spending the night with Charleston White; dealing with Nifty who was basically the personification of her phobia of lesbians; having her force herself to puke again as a recovering bulemic etc. etc. and TJ: Being physically obliterated by Sam Hyde; losing a shot at 10k due to fear of pooping in front of people; kicking Taylor off the show without being able to explain himself; lubecooch; being dogpiled a lot etc.
Up to that point Shinji had: having to steal from Nifty when he wanted to be morally spotless; losing his bestie Jimmy; having his pretty wall art fucked on due to Trish's King of the Day orders; uh...............
He needed to go through some comparative hurdles to catch up, I think it only looked bad because they basically punched him all at once in the face instead of the damage over time everyone else got.
yeah but all that other shit is funny. it's contwnt and conflict. after the crickets tay brushed it off and went about her shit. shinji couldn't see and was functionally crippled. even tj was still bouncin around after sam cracked a few ribs. not being able to see if miserable. it's uncomfortable to move in case you trip, typical interactions become confusing. it's not 10 minutes of being afraid of bugs or niggers.
Not watching Trish. She says she's going to be on Alex Stein. Maxes at about 170 viewers. She says she's flying in on the 29th to be there in person.
Tay's got about 450 max.
About the cutlery thing - she says Sam told her to bend all the silverware and nobody caught him doing that while watching the stream apparently. And nobody ever found them behind the washer. Greg (in the chat) says he found it but didn't announce it.
Greg calls in and Tay discovers that they both have the "bold and brash" painting from Spongebob.
She tries to name the player character in Animal Crossing GCN "Jemimah" after "Jemimah and Leopold," the names Jimmy gave for the B3 fish. Names the town "Beaver St."
Someone donates to her saying they're "seeking kyle. I seek kyle" and she stops herself and realizes she got clowned
Says she intends to stream much earlier in the day going forward
Says she has 200 beanies in her commission queue now. At $30 each that's $6000 minus materials.
DNALove is donating to her repeatedly and trying to rizz her up, "platonically"
Alex Stein's cat is giving birth and Tay finds out and immediately rushes to watch. It's pretty funny because Alex started the stream doing his hyperactive bit and chat tells him to calm the fuck down and he switches to fretting quietly
Greg is apparently so uncomfortable with reproduction he can't watch a cat have a baby
the designated simp target got blacked and had a severe mental breakdown, the freeloader women never stuck around longer than 2 days, trish is philipina or some other variant of unpleasant SEAsian, and Tay was too edgy and bald. fwiw i would absolutely make bad decisions with taylor but thread shitting uppery isn't my style