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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 56 7.3%
  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 87 11.4%
  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 170 22.2%
  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 405 52.9%
  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.1%

  • Total voters
    765
Normally Sam and Jet would think this kind overacting is cringe and gay and kick them out a few days later but for Binx who clearly knew about the show she was on they loved it. They knew she was going to stick around for Simpbux and that was her only purpose for being on the show.

I feel like this is pretty revisionist. Binx was one of the most popular contestants, immediately well received compared to the other female contestants, and pretty well regarded by the fanbase up until the cell. Even this thread was fairly keen on her until the latter half of the season. The "she's only here for simpbait" angle really only came about after Alex left. Everyone thought Mizzy was the cringe tryhard on day 1.
 
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people keep saying bloodgames was the best season (proving they are nerds) when it was the worst most uninteresting one, the interesting good parts of fishtank are getting to watch people experience a new environment in real time and seeing them interact with Sam Hyde
So they threw a bunch of neets into the woods and forced them to roleplay which none of them had ever done, what about that isnt watching people experiencing a new environment in real time? What brand of lead paint is your favorite to eat?
Even this thread was fairly keen on her until the latter half of the season.
I liked binx in the beginning mostly because of the conversation between her and ted where ted said "Me crying was so gay." and her response just being "Yes, it was very gay." and walking away lol. The problem is the longer the show went on the more she was forced into focus, and as the focus she stunk. I did enjoy Sam being extra mean to her in vegas though, having her hold the camera and then yelling at her anytime she just focused it on herself was a funny gag.
 
Binx was the worst, she did nothing unless she was bullied into it by production(faking outrage over Brandon who she was totally cool with, and egging Burt is a great example of her doing what she thought was expected to her, and not a genuine reaction). She's a used up thot that looks rough for 32 if she isn't caked up like it's fondant. Even Payton, as boring as she was, would occasionally get overwhelmed by the craziness and have a reaction. I would take almost anyone from FH2.0 over her. She 100% knew what to expect going in, and was there to leech Simps off for her dead streaming gig, and she got exactly what she wanted by being able to drop bongzarippa.

Payton and Mizzy weren't much better, but at least they were actual gaslit contestants.

As too Season 4, while I'd honestly say getting a gaslit cast is a hard pull every season, they did get two for just this last one. I'm ok with there being another Squidward cast, assuming they take the show in a different direction. Bloodgames was the best thing they did, and that was with all repeat Fish. They stuck to a season plan better in Season 3 than they did for 2 or 1 and I think the show was better for it. If they have an idea going in that isn't just "Do Season 1 again", which we have evidence to believe they are capable of with Famous Houses and Bloodgames, then I'm ok with them getting a different kind of cast than Famous House.

However, I do think attention desperate Hollywood/Influencer loser wanabes is a deep well that they can pull plenty from, and would like a return to Gas Light season afterwards.(Especially if they can get back to the two seasons a year model)
 
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I agree with the entirety of your post beyond saying that Jimmy wasn't a try hard. He absolutely was, as demonstrated by the list of bits and pranks he provided production with, and all the random shit he brought in with him and kept begging for production to give him.

I've said it elsewhere, but Jimmy switched between being painfully unfunny - occurring whenever he tried to be funny, to being hilarious - whenever he stopped trying.
Jimmy is a weirder case, and I did over simplify him a bit by saying he wasn't a try hard. I think the best Fish reach a level of retardation/ego/autism that is so profound that even if they know the true nature of the show and know exactly what the audience (in theory) wants to see they still can't come off as unnatural. Jimmy would try bits he pre-scripted, but he was such a sperg that it didn't matter and he would inevitably fall back into his genuine tard rage even after being fully self aware. His mental illness was so great that he could never focus on the bigger picture and realize we were laughing at him rather than with him. Basically, he was so retarded that it eclipsed him being a try hard.

Even then a lot of people probably wouldn't agree with me. I could totally see others viewing his try-hardness as being the same as the applicants currently embarrassing themselves to be on season 4.
 
Binx was the worst, she did nothing unless she was bullied into it by production(faking outrage over Brandon who she was totally cool with, and egging Burt is a great example of her doing what she thought was expected to her, and not a genuine reaction). She's a used up thot that looks rough for 32 if she isn't caked up like it's fondant. Even Payton, as boring as she was, would occasionally get overwhelmed by the craziness and have a reaction. I would take almost anyone from FH2.0 over her. She 100% knew what to expect going in, and was there to leech Simps off for her dead streaming gig, and she got exactly what she wanted by being able to drop bongzarippa.

The importance of Binx was her ongoing friendship/one sided romance with Alex, and ongoing feud with Simbal, both major content drivers over the first 3 weeks. I'm sorry, but filling the house full of nothing but socially inept retards(clinically, or otherwise) that "react" and act crazy would be stupid as fuck. That's literally just American Dude Lodge.

Binx was more socially ingratiated with the other fish than any other contestant. It's why even though Alexis, Ron, etc. were cozied up to Payton in the days before their exit, they both said immediately after leaving they wanted Binx to win and that she was their favorite fish. It's why of the four women there (edit: five, I forgot Smaack existed), Binx was the one Alex was willing to leave his wife for. It's why Alexis and Ron gave Fishtank proper a shot and left on semi-decent terms and Payton ended up sticking around for the long haul, Binx eased them into it.

"Content" isn't always about the meltdowns and the autistic slapfights. Relationships between these people have to be formed, otherwise that kind of content doesn't naturally happen. It's why the Letty/Jon dynamic is one of, if not the most memorable parts of S1. We were invested in the relationship between those two people. Binx is no Letty, far from it, but we wouldn't have gotten half the content we got out of Alex if Binx was not there (same with Jon:Letty). Bro was so fucking thirsty for some dusty elder emo pussy that his wife spent the first two weeks crashing out on social media and literally calling the cops on production.

Luke actually held a similar role to Binx this season. He was more of a social adhesive to ground the rest of the extreme characters in the house. He wasn't producing a lot of content, but he sure was facilitating it. It's why his heart to hearts with Burt were charming. Luke was the only one willing to actually talk to Burt and tell him to stop being such a faggot. Same with Binx actually talking to/engaging with other contestants in ways that weren't being fulfilled otherwise.

tl;dr: never go full retard.
 
I feel like this is pretty revisionist. Binx was one of the most popular contestants, immediately well received compared to the other female contestants, and pretty well regarded by the fanbase up until the cell. Even this thread was fairly keen on her until the latter half of the season. The "she's only here for simpbait" angle really only came about after Alex left. Everyone thought Mizzy was the cringe tryhard on day 1.
The simpbait contestants (Josie, Tayleigh, and Binx) are always extremely well liked by the loudest group of fans, which is why it feels so embarrassing to watch if you aren't trying to find an e-girlfriend while watching this show. Because this loud group of fans are freaks. I don't even buy that Josie and Binx were truly the most popular fish of their seasons and I think it just seemed that way due to how loud their simps were and how much money they spent on them.

The importance of Binx was her ongoing friendship/one sided romance with Alex, and ongoing feud with Simbal
Her feud with Simbal was nonexistent or at best one sided. Luke and Mizzy did much more to feud with Simbal than Binx ever did, but I do agree that the one worthwhile role Binx played in the season was her leading Alex on but after Alex was out of the picture she was just a drag.
 
On top of this the FTL chat is full of a group of people constantly simping and jacking off to the simpbait girl making watching the show feel super embarrassing for anyone that isn't fucked in the head. No other reality game show I've ever seen has had this problem, it's completely unique to Fishtank.
I hate that the worst and most deranged fans are the ones who bring in the most money. I can't imagine being the type of person to throw hundreds let alone thousands of dollars at failed e-girl who only exists on your computer monitor. Especially if you're paying $300 to send Binx her 1000th plushie that will either rot in the pile or end up in the toilet. But I guess Jet has "mouths" to feed that apparently only eat Galaxy Gas and Balenciaga shoes.
 
Her feud with Simbal was nonexistent or at best one sided. Luke and Mizzy did much more to feud with Simbal than Binx ever did, but I do agree that the one worthwhile role Binx played in the season was her leading Alex on but after Alex was out of the picture she was just a drag.
Binx was also the reason Simbal got booted, instead of Luke, after the Brandon incident.
 
Binx was also the reason Simbal got booted, instead of Luke, after the Brandon incident.
Yeah a one sided feud. Binx hated Simbal but she never did anything about it except seethe behind his back while Luke and Mizzy put in work throughout their time in the tank season to torment him. Even Alex B tried to fight Simbal a few times.
 
The importance of Binx was her ongoing friendship/one sided romance with Alex, and ongoing feud with Simbal, both major content drivers over the first 3 weeks.
Very good point. Binx was at her best with Alex because it provided her with some kind of purpose. It's amazing how quickly a season can collapse in on itself with the removal of one Fish at the center of the social web. So many layers get removed.

The Letty comparison was also great, of course the difference being that Letty actually stepped up when she was needed to carry the show. Binx? not so much. Not every Fish can be a home run hitter, but they can still be really valuable by providing a good contrast or being an influence for content. Sometimes you need a Vance or a Tayleigh to keep things grounded.
Binx was also the reason Simbal got booted, instead of Luke, after the Brandon incident.
Honestly I'd count this against her lol. I wish we had Simbal because that last week and a half needed some antagonist energy or at least a punching bag.
 
Yeah a one sided feud. Binx hated Simbal but she never did anything about it except seethe behind his back while Luke and Mizzy put in work throughout their time in the tank season to torment him. Even Alex B tried to fight Simbal a few times.
Binx eliminated Simbal at the very first elimination he didn't have immunity, blind siding both production and Luke.
 
Binx eliminated Simbal at the very first elimination he didn't have immunity, blind siding both production and Luke.
Yeah but that's the only thing she ever did to Simbal and it she accomplished it by seething behind his back, the only thing she was ever good at doing. Not to mention that Binx making everyone eliminate Simbal instead of Brandon actually hurt the show for the rest of the run.
 
I cannot bring myself to care about this pre-season "casting" at all. Everything I've seen about Streamstars and the IRL casting makes it look like a total disaster (except for that one guy, was it Dingus?) and not in a kino way.

IMO S2 only (barely) pulled off having a cast of fans because for the first week both the cast and the viewers didn't know they were fans and we got to know the fish as people rather than MDE fans acting like performative faggots destroying shit and Markyposting as much as possible. For me, right now is probably the least interested in Fishtank I've been since I first learned of the show and if they actually end up using any of the people desperate enough to show up to IRL auditions it's going to suck.

I also really hope they aren't planning on doing a S3.5 (or whatever mini-season) before S4. Having recurring cast members is fine once every two seasons so that you have time to miss them, but running it back immediately with the same cast after a season which was in the absolute doldrums by the end does not sound appealing in the slightest. I am seriously Burt fatigued at this point.
 
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Binx was also the reason Simbal got booted, instead of Luke, after the Brandon incident.
As poorly as the Brandon incident went, I think Binx saved Burt more than Luke. All of the new fish were talking about how weird Burt was and how uncomfortable he made them feel all night, even after Luke got longhoused. The first voting elimination on a reality show is always the one the contestants feel least bad about, see Ian. Burt would have been that if Binx hadn't steered everyone to Simbal.
Not to mention that Binx making everyone eliminate Simbal instead of Brandon actually hurt the show for the rest of the run.
Brandon got kicked out right away anyway so that doesn't really matter. There was 0 chance Sam let that guy stay on even one more day after it blew up like that.
IMO S2 only (barely) pulled off having a cast of fans because for the first week both the cast and the viewers didn't know they were fans and we got to know the fish as people rather than MDE fans acting like performative faggots destroying shit and Markyposting as much as possible. For me, right now is probably the least interested in Fishtank I've been since I first learned of the show and if they actually end up using any of the people desperate enough to show up to IRL auditions it's going to suck.
Call me crazy but it was super obvious there was at least one fan in the house from day one, aka Jimmy. He's weird in that way that you just know he's a fan. The trick with fan casting is they have to not be cringe in an unentertaining way, i.e. they can be cringe but only if it's entertaining (like Jimmy). Cringe but unentertaining is just Tayleigh, whose best moments were when she forgot she was a fan and played the game without soyjacking or acting like a faggot, or Brian, who sucked the entire time. 99% of FT fans can't do it without being cringe, but that 1% who can is at least ten people and it's possible to let the cream rise to the top if production lays off the whippets.
 
As poorly as the Brandon incident went, I think Binx saved Burt more than Luke
Yeah not sure why people forget this, it was either Burt or Simbal going that night - they both managed to creep the FH 2.0 people out instantly and Binx just pushed them off Burt onto Simbal.

I cannot bring myself to care about this pre-season "casting" at all. Everything I've seen about Streamstars and the IRL casting makes it look like a total disaster (except for that one guy, was it Dingus?) and not in a kino way.
I said this earlier in the thread, but part of me hopes this is just a humiliation ritual they're running. I haven't seen anything come out of this that makes me think they are seriously considering anyone who has participated.
 
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Regarding Nana (jap girl) being selected it's a "nah":
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He also responded similar in FTL chat when someone asked that:
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I also really hope they aren't planning on doing a S3.5 (or whatever mini-season) before S4.
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The call Jet put out would suggest this happening in Summer again (even though last time they were struggling with the heat...). He also said he'd teach people so it's suggested he'd be around.

Wigger schedules work around everyone being eunemployed so it could still be possible that they're gonna cram in S4 before this...
If the video maejok posted three days ago was recorded recently then they're at least already doing production work at the s3 house (as Max/Cowboy is also there).



Also steinful was tweeting about Episode 8 which is usually an indication that it's ready... so they're gonna hit the last Thursday/Friday in March after all 💪
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