Orbiter Flamenco / FlamencoTV / Joshua Clayton Connor - The most autistic and degenerate thread on the site. Fierce torrenting of hentai mass debates. Possibly a pedo, can still pull more viewers than Ralph.

[MeltyTW]

he wasn't even making them in good faith in the first place.

i fucking hate arguing if something is good faith in the current debate scene, all it does it turn the argument into being about whether the argument is good faith or not vs the actual topic. it might be fine in a more sedate environment but trying to turn a fucking shout match into being about "are you even into good faith?" is retarded. idk flam is pretending you dont remember a single thing except any hard to remember minute detail you can use to try and scramble away good faith? is it good faith to do that?

That's the nature of it. It comes down to three different motives to defend Flamenco:

1.) People hate PPP. They will do anything they can to deny him a win of any kind. Including siding with a pedophile.

2.) They have an unhealthy approval of Flamenco (this is a VERY SMALL subset) and will do anything to defend him (Like his mod Ash) or they themselves see Flamenco's actions as their own and feel like an attack on Flamenco being a pedophile means it's an attack on them being a pedophile (which if they are, fucking kill yourself)

3.) They didn't understand what was really happening and just jumped on the bandwagon.

I think the majority of people fall into the first. They don't like PPP, KC had been riding high without any real opposition and it pissed them off. So they were going to deny PPP a win in any way they could. Even if it means coming to the aid of a pedophile or pedo apologist.

Fagmenco doesn't have the waves of support he thinks he does. He's been trying to ride high off this like he's a big deal and he's respected. You can tell by his attitude he thinks he's untouchable. That he made out ahead. But he hasn't. He thinks he was able to control the narrative and take over people's attention. But he isn't charismatic or smart enough. He's not Jim. No matter how badly he wants to be Jim. He's a pedophile apologist (at best).

EDIT: TL;DR - People weren't interested in seeing you fed, fagmenco. They wanted to see PPP eaten. There's a difference. You should learn it.

whats funny to me is it seems a good deal were actually angry at or upset with ppp while still hating flam but flam just sees it as "well the episode was disliked and i 'won' a poll so they love me and believe me!" when thats no where near what happened, the episode maybe a weight on ppp and andy but their biggest stain will be a bad ep with a subpar takedown of a pedo and warski being too eager to befriend people and flams is that hes a kid toucher. that is the perception of flam. that and that hes an autistic retard obsessed with letytube to the point he cant think straight in any sense of the word.

If we are to take this retard's logic we shouldn't even be holding trials, we should just do elections to determine who is a pedo and who isn't. The Chemo Casino didn't even scratch the surface and in a big part due to AIDS Rocky being an absolute retard as usual. Popular opinion isn't the truth, in fact many people that would read this thread and aren't pedos themselves would definitely give this chomo a second look.

idk popular opinion seems to be that hes a kid toucher so even by that metric he still loses.

 

[buying gf]

I will never understand the comment about being biased though when writing off a pedo. If someone touches kids, no matter how fucking long you've known them, you make it clear they should die. Worried that 'tux may kill himself' for being a sister-fister is such a fucking copout, let alone the rest of his excuses. As far as I'm concerned, if you have to make excuses to not call out pedos or not be associated with them, you're clearly hiding something.

He'd only seemed biased if he defended or downplayed what Dmitri did. If he came out and said "Yes fellow humans pedophilia is bad even when if it's my friend", nobody would consider it to be biased. It is only in the case of weasel wording around the topic that he would get accused of covering for his friend.

 

[boglim]

Flam's response to the Mati stream. Not a good way to react at all in my opinion.

Jesus, I don't really have much experience with Flamenco but he's slurring his words pretty badly just in the first few minutes of this video. Is that his usual or does he need a little lubrication to get on stream and talk about this shit . Even if he's completely honest about all this (doubt it) I can kind of understand the stress. Still doesn't look good though, buddy!

 

[Capt. Jean Luc Ritard]

“Hi it’s me Flamenco, you may remember me from such things as ‘being a pedophile’ and ‘lying about being a pedophile.’”

-Flamenco

 

[AnOminous]

i fucking hate arguing if something is good faith in the current debate scene, all it does it turn the argument into being about whether the argument is good faith or not vs the actual topic. it might be fine in a more sedate environment but trying to turn a fucking shout match into being about "are you even into good faith?" is retarded.

The cunt wasted the time of everyone who listened to that shit by overselling it when it was just nonsense, not any more than we really already knew about this creepy dude except the single one Steam thing.

 

[MeltyTW]

The cunt wasted the time of everyone who listened to that shit by overselling it when it was just nonsense, not any more than we really already knew about this creepy dude except the single one Steam thing.

I was just about to edit my post or make a new post to address this actually, I was more talking about flams usage, you're just pointing it out after the fact and I actually agree just joking about being bad faith accuser is idiotic and i cant really argue with you that the stream wasnt effective at convincing people when it didnt convince people.

Flam on the other hand was trying to stop the shouting match to argue whether every single statement was in good faith and whether every statement in the sub arguments about another thing being bad faith is bad faith. I felt it was a transparent tactic and a horrible look.

 

[Formula one downey]

i hate flam i want to punch him in his stupid anime pedo loving jew face.

 

[lurker_fuck]

I remember when Flam said that he didn't need direct evidence to make claims about people. That's why during the Keffals commie drama he got into a fight with PunishedProject about what qualifies as evidence
Flam saying that testimony from people within the group counts as evidence and if there's some collaborating incidents we can make a claim from prior behavior

I don't think he'd hold to that position if one of those guys came out and said "Yeah me and Flam talk about kids with we play Pokemon together"

 

[UncleTeddy]

Fagmenco cancelled his Dick show appearance after hanging out with vito and mr. girl. That's pretty tough for dax, imagine being considered worse optics than vito and mr.girl. Too little too late in my eyes.

 

[Pomniman]

I remember when Flam said that he didn't need direct evidence to make claims about people. That's why during the Keffals commie drama he got into a fight with PunishedProject about what qualifies as evidence
Flam saying that testimony from people within the group counts as evidence and if there's some collaborating incidents we can make a claim from prior behavior

I don't think he'd hold to that position if one of those guys came out and said "Yeah me and Flam talk about kids with we play Pokemon together"

I get the impression that he picked up this sort of retar‎ded pseudo intellectual faggotry from his coverage of breadtubers. Like a true autist, he felt the need to "beat them at their own game" and ended up shooting himself in the dick with the mental gymnastics he cribbed from his opposition in gay internet debates. When you start needing to rationalize every aspect of your position on why tranny pedophiles are pieces of shit, and equivocating about things like "not all trannies", you're already well down the road to retardsville.

 

[Cum]

This website has taught me to never trust anyone named Josh.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Remember when i told you all about Flam doxing SPCC and then proceeding to rape the man's children? i think you all owe me an apology. i was on the fuck flam train before anyone.

'NOOOO THIS IS A BAD FAITH ARGUMENT!!!'

I fucking hate these stock terms from twitchfag and reddit debates that have caught on.
These people never watched PPP or Godwinson before 2022, it's not a fucking destiny debate with facts and logic, it's entertainment and dragging a sperg over the coals for the lulz.
The new audience KC has attracted has the kind of autism that doesn't understand humor and they get emotionally attached to people like flamenco whom they need to have vicarious autistic moral victories though on the internet and claim the 'W'.
All these faggots screeching about life ruination etc are soft and a product of the new gay internet. There was more than enough cause to grill Flamenco over this and these same faggots would have been delerious with glee if it was someone their e-celeb daddy didn't like who had been caught in this predicament.
There's also a lot of people giving flampedo a pass on this because he's an enemy of Ralph.
Flam Internet Defence Force are in denial though if they really believe there isn't a lot of circumstantial evidence that would lead a lot of people to these kind of conclusions about flamenco.

also it works, theres a reason cops just accuse people of shit and hope they break during interrogations, Null would be living on Dick Masterson's couch right now if it never worked.

Sometimes you accuse someone of being a pedo and they go "she didn't tell me she was 14 until the pregnancy test came back positive"

So listening to the now deleted shit, it's funny how quickly Flam changed his opinion on Jewsh in under 20 minutes. Went from 'he's giving me a fair shake' to 'fuck him, i don't fucking care' as soon as he was criticized in any manner. He really thought at first that his new kiwidaddy would be nice to him before being bullied. Whilst I still think PPP fucked it entirely, it took Jewsh not even 10 minutes to make Flam sperg the fuck out, before going on to protect pedos because whatever convenient excuse he has in his mind at the time.

all this proves is that the kino casino episode should have been a four horsemen reunion, jewsh would have guaranteed the W for PPP. For fucks sake, kino casino is popular enough that they can get Jewsh on as a 3rd man.

 

[Faggitory]

This would be a good gayop strat in general, invite some person to a steam group full of socks, wait a while, then change all the socks to some weird shit.

There's multiple issues with this strat though. You'd need to first make sure they accept the invite, which most people won't if they don't know you, so what do you do? Spend months befriending them, then invite them? Next, you have to make absolutely sure they never check their steam group or actually try to use the group to play games. If they do, they'll notice its dead, stop checking, and have evidence that they stopped checking a while ago.

Lastly, and this is the biggest issue: you need to make sure the user you're trying to gay op is flamenco tier weird. The average person would just say "Oh shit, that group turned bad", and everyone around them would go "Yeah, that's crazy!". Why? Because the average guy isn't caught with strange shota porn and a history of poorly denying it. Most normies have the iron clad alibi of "I guess the group got over ran by pedos", and that's all they'd need.

At that point, I'd just call my gay op target a retard and forget about him.

 

[TheAntiE-CelebLeague00]

At 13:58-14:30 ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IreseSToSR8 ) Fagmenco says "At some point I will probably be inside in like another conversation that has Mr.Girl or whatever. Dude I don't fucking care (in reference to Mr.Girl). I.. I legit do not fucking care. Okay. I do not care if I am on a livestream with another person that people have issue with. I genuinely do not give a shit. I.. genuinely do not give a shit. Now Mr.Girl is weird and he says really fucking weird shit and I dont fully trust him. Now Vito on the other hand is a contration attention whore." - Joshua Clayton Connor Harrogate TN.

Firstly Fagmenco totally isnt mad and doesn't care which is why he had to repeat the phrase "I do not care" and "I dont give a shit" dozens of times in the span of a few minutes. But here he is minimizing the issue saying Mr.Girl is just into weird stuff instead of him being a pedo. Fagmenco just exposed the nose, its over we got him. @#KillAllPedos is the biggest larper on the internet protecting this pedo (PAP is his new name hence).

"Mr.Girl again, I dont think is actually a pedophile" - Fagmenco at 16:42-16:45 (16:42-20:00)

Flam in this part white knights for Mr.Girl and Vito and defends them! Is their any doubt left? This is "if I did it" moment. He is minizming what Mr.Girl is doing and saying he isnt a pedo. Why would he do this?

The short summary is Joshua Clayton Connor's response to Joshua Connor Moon was pathetic. Fagmenco says his jconnor684 account was hacked. Basically Fagmenco was hollering over Null all fucking day.

" THAT ACCOUNT WAS HACKED. I DO NOT LIKED TO GET PEGGED. ITS NOT TROOOOOOO IF I HAD TO GUESS I WAS HACKED. THOSE DAMN AYLAWGS ON THE KAREN FARMS. DADDY JIM HELP ME! COVER IT UP JIM! FUCK YOU NULL. FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU. I DO NOT FUCKING CARE. I DO NOT GIVE A SHIT. MR.GIRL IS INNOCENT! " - Paraphrase of Fagmenco Response to Null.

Who is Joshua Rojas?

 

[Sammich]

Holy shit that's fucking dark. Spooky Weeb Trash wants to ride that dick? Holy fuck that decent tiddie job was wasted on that sick freak. Can someone provide this twitter shit?

That psycho lolicon cunt needs a thread and a woodchipper

 

[#KillAllPedos]

@#KillAllPedos is the biggest larper on the internet protecting this pedo (PAP is his new name hence).

You’ve been @ing me all over the place. What’s the matter buddy? No offense, but you sound like a nut. I’m not Chris Hansen or Pop Squad, and I’m not part of anyone’s personal army. If you wanna nail Flamenco to the cross, be my guest. If you think you know where a pedo is hiding, call the cops.

 

[Procrastinhater]

That's the nature of it. It comes down to three different motives to defend Flamenco:

1.) People hate PPP. They will do anything they can to deny him a win of any kind. Including siding with a pedophile.

2.) They have an unhealthy approval of Flamenco (this is a VERY SMALL subset) and will do anything to defend him (Like his mod Ash) or they themselves see Flamenco's actions as their own and feel like an attack on Flamenco being a pedophile means it's an attack on them being a pedophile (which if they are, fucking kill yourself)

3.) They didn't understand what was really happening and just jumped on the bandwagon.

I think the majority of people fall into the first. They don't like PPP, KC had been riding high without any real opposition and it pissed them off. So they were going to deny PPP a win in any way they could. Even if it means coming to the aid of a pedophile or pedo apologist.

Fagmenco doesn't have the waves of support he thinks he does. He's been trying to ride high off this like he's a big deal and he's respected. You can tell by his attitude he thinks he's untouchable. That he made out ahead. But he hasn't. He thinks he was able to control the narrative and take over people's attention. But he isn't charismatic or smart enough. He's not Jim. No matter how badly he wants to be Jim. He's a pedophile apologist (at best).

EDIT: TL;DR - People weren't interested in seeing you fed, fagmenco. They wanted to see PPP eaten. There's a difference. You should learn it.

Tbh that show was cringe af to watch. PPP made himself look like a disingenuous lazy asshole when he repeatedly refused to show evidence.
They knew he was coming. It took me less than an hour to find enough clips of Flamenco being sus they could have had cued up and ready to throw in his face, but as soon as Flamenco said "show evidence" and they couldn't because they weren't prepared they took an easy fucking W and fucking managed to turn it into a bucket of shit by the miracle of tard alchemy that they then preceded to dump all over their own heads.
Fucking Warski was the only one who came out of that looking remotely clean and it was just pathetic.
The audience didn't shit on the Casino because Fagmenco doesn't stink of Cheese Pizza, they shit on them because if you're gonna accuse someone of that shit you better fucking have receipts to drop.
They went at it lazy and half assed because they expected an easy win.
It doesn't prove Flamenco isn't dirty, it just proves PPP is the same lazy, disingenuous asshole he's always been.

 

[TV's Adam West]

A bad faith argument? I got a peer reviewed study that says you're a pussy.

 

[InwardsStink]

Hi Flamenco! Remember when you used to afk restream Pop Squad and Creep Catchers videos on stream.me? Oh the irony.

 

[Grotesque Bushes]

Is Flamenco a pedo? There is, as far as I know, no concrete evidence that proves it.
There is however concrete evidence that he's a boring, porn addicted anime retard with no social skills nor anything interesting to say. His only redeeming feature was that he attached himself to an even bigger sperg, but that was prior to Flamenco exposing himself while Ralph has more or less a decade of experience in being a retard online.

Flam's response to the Mati stream. Not a good way to react at all in my opinion.

Brevity is the soul of wit.