Orbiter Flamenco / FlamencoTV / Joshua Clayton Connor - The most autistic and degenerate thread on the site. Fierce torrenting of hentai mass debates. Possibly a pedo, can still pull more viewers than Ralph.

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Should Flamenco be banned from life?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1,302 72.7%
  • No

    Votes: 490 27.3%

  • Total voters
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I genuinely find it amazing just how consistent he has been in responding in some of the dumbest ways possible to each allegation/issue that has cropped up since the porn accounts leak. Flam is literally offering himself to the wolves at this stage by being so serious and hypocritical. Hypocrisy usually isn't the killshot it should be, but when you as boring and bad at debate/arguing as flam is it can, and I think will, be a killer.
Hypocrisy can be a killshot against someone who goes after others for being hypocrites.
 
If you're reading this Flam, at this point you should just go mask off.

What Flam should say:
"I don't think trans women are women at all, they are men with a dresses which is infinitely more of a turn on for me."
"As a proud lolbert, Vito and MrGirl are actually cool and awesome! And the only reason I didn't like them as much before because I was afraid of being cancelled."
"I am not actually a Christian, my one and only religious devotion has been to big titted anime girls and to COOOOOOMing."

At this point this is the only way for Flam to grow his channel and his audience once again, at least now he has an army of Anime NEETs on his side.
 
Hypocrisy can be a killshot against someone who goes after others for being hypocrites.
Agreed just look at PPP. He used to at least be respected for having principles and calling out grifters and shit heels, now he's a tame Gimp for a stuttering retard and approaching televangelist levels of shamless greed and e begging.
He's become everything he claimed to hate.
If you're reading this Flam, at this point you should just go mask off.

What Flam should say:
"I don't think trans women are women at all, they are men with a dresses which is infinitely more of a turn on for me."
"As a proud lolbert, Vito and MrGirl are actually cool and awesome! And the only reason I didn't like them as much before because I was afraid of being cancelled."
"I am not actually a Christian, my one and only religious devotion has been to big titted anime girls and to COOOOOOMing."

At this point this is the only way for Flam to grow his channel and his audience once again, at least now he has an army of Anime NEETs on his side.
You know what I'd at least have some respect for him if he would just be fucking honest and admit he had a 60 terrabyte collection of lolishit and he jerks off nightly to prolapse videos because he's a fucking coombrain that will defend his friends even when they're sick fucks like Vito.
Not much respect, and I'd still hold him in contempt but loyalty and the balls to not give a fuck are at least kinda admirable.
Its the same grudging respect Ralph craves with his "I don't give a fuck" bluster, but in Ralphs case it fails because he has to keep hollering about how he doesn't care.
Fuck him though. Flamencos a faggot and lolishit watching pedophiles should be fucking burned at the stake. Jerking off to pictures of kids the sick fucks.
 
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@Flamenco, ya dun goofed. Surrender immediately or consider this a notice of declaration to seriously alog you as you are no longer approaching Ralph LOLcow territory, you have already crossed that line. There is permanent damage, and I feel compelled to drop some details on why and why you should stop immediately. I will not respond to messages from you further, take this information for what it's worth as a wake up call.

Augie was streaming on Twitch last night listening to the Nicholas DeOrio vs Flamenco call where he just seethes at Nick laughing at him for 2 hours, and 15 minutes in Flamenco calls in. Augie again tries to explain why he's being a hypocrite:

1. MC Jarbo called Ralph all kinds of shit including a pedo and a rapist. Flamenco plays a MC Jarbo Ralph song on almost every single stream. @Flamenco, you have no business getting ass mad at Mike The Bike when you've made fun of Ralph for the last 2 years for being ass mad at MC Jarbo which is why you play it on every stream because you know it gets under Ralph's skin and you know your fans like it when you poke the Pig. You love rolling around in the mud and flinging shit at people. You don't get to pretend to have righteous indignation over this.

2. Salvo Pancakes stabbed a sonic doll saying he wanted to kill you. It was funny prop comedy. Moral fagging about this being some kind of actual threat is retarded. No explanation needed. If you try to say anything different again you are a faggot.

3. You also don't understand why Augie thinks you're a hypocrite because of Xanderhal. You threatened to send his mom clips of him talking shit about her because you thought it would be funny if he was homeless and his girlfriend would leave him because he was paying for her shit(which we now know involved lots of crack and her fucking other dudes). You said many times how you were waiting to laugh at his upcoming homeless arc because his stream numbers suck and he barely gets any donations, and it's how you really feel. But Augie is wrong, you're not a hypocrite, you're a liar. Only after Augie yelled at you like a disappointed dad did you concede that you went too far, but you didn't really mean it. You still think it would be funny if he became homeless, but you no longer want to be seen as someone who would be the direct cause of it because Augie's audience are filled with moralizing faggots and troons and you pretended to learn a lesson, but you didn't. But you wanted to save face and still have his help in growing your channel(and you got that help), otherwise you'd be in the situation you find yourself in now, which is bleeding subscribers and almost the entire audience on their side of the isle now hates you.

Background info dump:
I have mentioned it to people here who have asked because they recognized my name when I first joined, but a little inside baseball, I used to be a mod in Flamenco's discord and his YouTube. I would join the voice chats and troll Flamenco(in good fun and ribbing) by clipping stuff of him saying terrible things out of context. I have a lot of clips that I can almost have brief conversations with Flamenco sound drops and it's confused a lot of people. I would also join when he let people on air in his live streams and play clips I have of him saying stuff like "that's why you shouldn't gatekeep in the furry community" and "I fantasize about children having sex" which is from some stream he did reading something from reddit I think. He almost always took this light trolling in good fun.

Example of the type of ribbing I did:


Remember that Flamenco? Taking jokes in good fun? How many times have you said Ralph's biggest problems are he can't take a joke and lets things bother him instead of rolling with the punches like you did in your first big controversy where your pornhub shit leaked. At least, at first you did. Now it seems like this was your Gunt moment because it's now all compounded with your Steam group controversy which you are taking very badly.

Back to the mod shit - he has a retarded mod named Pixy who used to go by YSL. He would constantly mute me and boot me from voice chat. Some of his other mods also hated me. I jokingly created The Jannyva Conventions threatening to Nuremberg trial his mods. This went on for a while where I'd troll and fight with the mods. I forget the exact circumstances but I think I was being server muted by YSL and I asked for a broom so that he couldn't do that anymore. Flamenco did it much to the dismay of his regular jannies. With much shame, I kept the broom. I became that of which I hated. I vow to never janny again.

Fast forward to May 30th: Tux molested his sister. Being a long time lurker on the Gunt thread/forum I saw it almost immediately. I pointed it out in the Discord both to the mod chat and to the general chat and immediately disavowed him. Flamenco's biggest donator and I guess would be considered his top mod, Pringer(discord name, goes by Shabs on YouTube) sperged the fuck out at me, hard. In my discussion of Tux fucking his sister, I referenced posts that were being made by King of Pol about DMs he had with Tux, and while it was not in the recording that was first posted on the Tux thread, King of Pol was saying, I forget the exact ages, that Tux was 14 and his sister 12. If I'm getting those ages wrong, the important thing is that KOP was saying Tux was the older one in the situation. I don't know why but Shabs seems to have a fear boner for KOP and this point about Tux being older was a great point of contention for him.

I was fed a bullshit story by Shabs and another mod that Kiwifarms had the info wrong, that they had a discussion with Tux about this already(I suppose the news of the recording leaked before it was posted here) and that Tux was the younger sibling and basically it was NAWT TRUE and insinuations that Tux was the victimized child in the situation. I don't know what other mods were involved in this discussion, or if Flamenco was a part of that discussion. I assume it either took place in a private group call, or a private discord I was never a part of. Or for all I know they made it up. Of course, Tux later that day went on a stream with Augie and confirmed the Kiwis including KOP had the info correct, that he was the older sibling. He molested his sister. He probably raped her, as he admits this went on for years. Oh, and Tux wasn't banned, he left the discord himself, if I recall correctly, shortly after Augie's stream.

Rewind a few days before the Tux drama, was Ralph's Portugal 2 trip. A day or two before Cog and Dan beat the shit out of Ralph, there was someone else who photographed Ralph but didn't engage with him directly.
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This took place in a voice chat in Flamenco's server. I egged it on(as a moderator) because I thought it was hilarious. I even told the person who got this photo to tail Ralph and find out what hotel he was at. Flamencos other pussy moderators told him not to and that they'd ban him, but I just told him I would unban him and told them to stop being faggots. He didn't end up tailing him., probably not wanting to get banned by the other mods. This would later become a pretext to justify banning me.

I was reprimanded for this later by Flamenco, who said don't do it again, as it's bad optics and he didn't want to be blamed for things being done to Ralph(which he was anyway since the stream happened in his discord). Much like Flamenco did with Xanderhal, I find it funny to poke the pig. I wouldn't go as far as to laugh at him being swatted, but it's funny when people call restaurants he is livestreaming at and get him kicked out because some Waiter doesn't know that he could just hang up the phone when someone calls and says there's a 400 pound rapist with a gun at the bar table who has kidnapped the 14 year old girl he's with.

Fast forward back to Tux fucking his sister. There was a user named Meme Magic in the Discord chat who posted a photo of Tux's sister from the KF thread. This was before Tux left the server and there was some ambiguity as to the veracity of some of the claims being made, as it was before the Augie stream where Tux would confirm the information that was posted here on the farms. Knowing the other mods are ban happy retard jannies and were already giving me shit for discussion the Tux situation, I deleted the photo of Tux's sister so that the user wouldn't be banned. This user then complained about it, to which I told him that I did it before a less friendly mod saw it, and he still complained.

Because no good deed goes unpunished, I regretted helping him out immediately and told him to go ahead and repost it and I would ignore it and let another mod take care of it. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would understand this as a veiled threat that another moderator would ban him if he posted it. He got the message and agreed not to repost it, but said that someone else would and there was no point in taking action. Probably right. I personally didn't care about it, again, I only did it to keep the other jannies from banning him.

Later on in the day, I was banned from the discord by Shabs. The above scenario was misrepresented as a reason for my banning, saying that I was encouraging the user to post pictures of Tux's sister. Anyone reading that chat log would know that is a lie. I was banned for coming out of the gate hard against Tux, and pissing off Flamenco's biggest donator Shabs in the process by arguing with him about the details of Tux raping his sister. Flamenco knew it was a lie and was given this chat log immediately. He continued to say sorry in private and that he would talk to Shabs to unban me. He would continue to say "Sorry man you really pissed off Shabs and he's my friend so I'm siding with him." Too pussyfoot to do the right thing and keep his jannies in check, he instead was too afraid to piss off his biggest and most consistent donator and didn't unban me.

Remembering that Vaush accused Flamenco of stalking him and constantly DMing him even though he never got a reply back, I would message him a few times a day to hassle him to which he ignored. I did that for several weeks before getting bored with it because he just kept ignoring it and it stopped being funny.
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Fast forward to the Steam Group controversy, before going on the Kino Casino, Flamenco did a stream with Jesse PS from Pod Awful and Baked Alaska. Jesse demanded Flamenco show him his Netflix account to make sure he never watched Cuties, explained to him Schrodinger's Pedophile Test(aka The Pee Pee Test), and gave him some other good advice.

As you all know, Flamenco came out on top of the Kino Casino appearance as the audience didn't respond well to Godwinson and PPP railroading Flamenco for a comedy bit instead of asking him actual pressing questions.

The next day(I think, perhaps 2 days after) Jesse PS and his fans raided Flamenco's livestream chat demanding he do the Pee Pee test. Eventually they started spamming it and mods were sweeping it up. I was still a mod in the YouTube chat, and when the mods started banning Jesse and the Pizza Brigade I started unbanning them so they could continue demanding that Flamenco take the Pee Pee test. For no other reason that it was funny and the other mods were crying about it. After like 30 minutes of this, Flamenco finally noticed and saw that it was me unbanning them and he took my final broom.

Despite these things, I didn't dislike Flamenco. My trolling of him was always in good fun. I don't think he's a pedophile, but he's certainly a degenerate and a porn addict who needs help. But the other day he did something very scummy that I particularly found unacceptable. He threw his good friend Hal under the bus to placate a disgusting, filthy tranny mod of Augie's. Hal(who ran VaushLs Twitter) is based and goes out of his way to openly mock troons and tells them to kill themselves. He did this to a tranny mod of Augie's named Polus.
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During the vs Nick stream from a few days ago, Polus came on and demanded Flamenco nuke his mods for being transphobes(even his faggot moderators like YSL hate troons). Flamenco played stupid and said "I uhhh I don't think he's a mod anymore." This is either a lie, or Hal doesn't even care because he is based and doesn't really do any moderating anyway. But make no mistake, they are friends. So either Flamenco lied or the "he's no longer a mod" is disingenuous because it doesn't even matter if he's a mod when they're good internet frens and will remain so, and is likely in whatever group with the other top mods. Also worth noting, several of Flamenco's mods have continuously told him that the commentary guys are not his friends and he should stop trying to appease them.

@Flamenco what the fuck is this?(that's rhetorical, these are private vs public DMs with obese lolcow Nicholas DeOrio)
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I'm not sure what is going through your head, but it's pretty clear to anyone that knew you before you started hanging out with Augie that you were a part of the Killstream(which half of the commentary audience hates you for) but you were also a TRS guy. But now you pretend to care about transphobia and some fat retard's feelings? A fat retard who has openly had disdain for you since day 1.

Are you going to keep being be a bitch hoping the commentary community welcomes you back along with their audience? It's never happening. Read the room. You are permanently done with that crowd. Anytime you go on their streams now the chat is going to be flooded with "HEY FLAMENCO.....LEAVE THOSE KIDS ALONE!" just like how Ralph's chat was flooded with Gunt. Because you let them know it bothers you.

You still have an audience, but will that audience continue to support you as you continue to be disingenuous? Your watchers also need to make a decision about you. Do they continue to support this train wreck situation you've wheeled yourself into? Usually when this happens like it did with Ralph there's always going to be that Loyal Gunt Guard, but they'll become fewer and farther between as time goes on. Are you going to start banning and doxing former supporters next?

Get a grip retard. Even Augie is done with you, even though he tried to throw you a life jacket last night, but he also wants you to be a good little dog and denounce your mods and concede all points to him. The only way you come out of this with any self respect is to go hard at people like Salvo and DeOrio AND Xanderhal by trolling them back, doing videos on them, and do it with the intent to fuck with them as much as they have you.

But guess what? Even that probably won't work now, because you prostrated yourself and put yourself in this terrible position. Apologizing for your mods and saying you demodded them(which probably isn't true and doesn't even matter if it is as explained above) and pretending that you care about transphobia, not to mention those snaky DMs with DeOrio.

How do you expect to have any success now covering lolcow drama after becoming one? How can you even cover Ralph drama after becoming Ralph?
 
Some people might find the details interesting, particularly the stuff about Tux.
I personally think Flam is a lost cause, he will not listen to any of us, he will just spiral further down into his own delusion. Just follow my advice from the above post and he might be able to salvage at least his superchat income.
 
I personally think Flam is a lost cause, he will not listen to any of us, he will just spiral further down into his own delusion. Just follow my advice from the above post and he might be able to salvage at least his superchat income.
He pretends not to read his own thread. I've seen several cows do that to avoid taking the solid advice we give them.
 
He has a stream where he responded to Salvos video on him on his second channel. Video Here
He states that he believes flam is a retard and looks terrible in this situation not being able to take the joke or even that he lacks self awareness in seeing why he's wrong. He then goes to compare Flam as a person with leprosy and how they would be shunned and sent to the caves in the Bible. And then proceeds to say does he even need to say the 2nd part for people to get it.

EDIT*BREAKING NEWS THE SONG THAT MADE FAGMENCO SEETHE COMES OUT THIS FRIDAY.
Why wait until Friday? Hey, @Flamenco leave them kids alone!



Taken from SalvoPancakes stream
 
I think augie on his second channel was watching the second nick video shitting on flam and flam joins mid video since its called "debating flamenco" , when I get home from work I'll go through it if there are any "good" parts I will post the clips.
 
He definitely does, I've never seen in comment in this thread but he has liked posts here that are positive to him. So he definitely lurks.
If you check his profile at the right times you can see he's reading his own thread.
Thats why people address him directly, the nigger checks this thing two or three times a day.
 
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All of that text just to say that Flamenco is a lying faggot?

More specifically that he hasn't changed much since his days as a guntguard? Agreed. The commentary community and Flam are cut from the same cloth. A bunch of moral fags who want to be edgy like their internet daddies but are too scared of Youtube, Tyrone, and trannies. Each of them have also been recorded spazzing out over their own lies, hypocrisy, and poor choice of internet friends.
  • Flam (a growing list)
  • Nick (by Tonka and Bunty King's friends)
  • Augie (by Technicals)
  • Bowblax (by his own fatass friend Nick)
And the others aren't worth mentioning, but they've been on recorded doing shit that makes their grift a joke. The type of people these speds are defending are the same exact people that Leafy and Metokur would have shitted on. It happened with Tux and Keffals.

I personally think Flam is a lost cause, he will not listen to any of us, he will just spiral further down into his own delusion. Just follow my advice from the above post and he might be able to salvage at least his superchat income.
Flam's too stubborn to openly embrace that side of himself. He can still be pro-tranny with all the femboys he wants, and he would still get the humiliation fetish that he craves. The problem is that Flam really wants to be better than Ralph, so he would rather lose again and again if it means that he doesn't have to tell the truth about anything.
 
God damn it Flamenco, can't go a week without being a retard. Being on the internet is bad for you, fade into the shadows if you're getting so riled up. Kiwi Farms accounts are free so you can just make another one if you want to shit on Ralph, he reads every post.

Quit spanking it to loli while you're at it.
 
God damn it Flamenco, can't go a week without being a retard. Being on the internet is bad for you, fade into the shadows if you're getting so riled up. Kiwi Farms accounts are free so you can just make another one if you want to shit on Ralph, he reads every post.

Quit spanking it to loli while you're at it.
I mean he likes going to war with people I guess.
 
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