For real, should I even bother getting the vaccine?

ahh, so you are indeed a /pol/ stereotype, i thought for a sec you where capable of having independent thought from your glowpot hivemind, to i have to give you props, that you in fact know what sarcasm is.
 
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I'll never understand the whole "but this many people died" argument as it is. There are nearly eight billion people on this planet. Four million is barely scratching the surface. Plus the case numbers don't really matter as much as how many people actually died. Not to mention said cases can range anywhere from mild to severe, so it's not an accurate way of determining how deadly it is. How infectious it is definitely, but not deadly.

I'm sorry if someone close to you died from or was negatively affected by the virus. If any of my family died from the virus, I would mourn for them. I still however, would stand by my beliefs regarding this whole thing. The mask and vaccine mandates are not justified and both should be a choice for the individual. Forcing someone to do either is unethical.

As for the OP. Do what you think is right. You are your own individual. Do not let people pressure you either way.
 
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@Almighty MoeBro Nation

I'll never understand the whole "but this many people died" argument as it is. There are nearly eight billion people on this planet. Four million is barely scratching the surface. Plus the case numbers don't really matter as much as how many people actually died. Not to mention said cases can range anywhere from mild to severe, so it's not an accurate way of determining how deadly it is. How infectious it is definitely, but not deadly.

I'm sorry if someone close to you died from or was negatively affected by the virus. If any of my family died from the virus, I would mourn for them. I still however, would stand by my beliefs regarding this whole thing. The mask and vaccine mandates are not justified and both should be a choice for the individual. Forcing someone to do either is unethical.

As for the OP. Do what you think is right. You are your own individual. Do not let people pressure you either way.
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Pause for a moment and try to vividly picture yourself standing next to four million dead bodies. That's nearly a thousand 9/11's

Yeah, it's small compared to the total world population but it's heartbreaking that so many people had to suffer through this shit. Call me MATI or whatever. It just infuriates me that people won't take this more seriously. If you're not going to vaccinate then you have no right to throw a bitchfit when your local restaurant tries to social distance you. Vaccines don't kill millions of people and they certainly don't shut down the world economy.
 
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Pause for a moment and try to vividly picture yourself standing next to four million dead bodies. That's nearly a thousand 9/11's

Yeah, it's small compared to the total world population but it's heartbreaking that so many people had to suffer through this shit. Call me MATI or whatever. It just infuriates me that people won't take this more seriously. If you're not going to vaccinate then you have no right to throw a bitchfit when your local restaurant tries to social distance you. Vaccines don't kill millions of people and they certainly don't shut down the world economy.
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The left is to blame for this climate though, they've made it clear for years how much they'd love to fucking murder you over a difference of opinion as well as lying to everyone's faces and gaslighting them constantly, then they turn around and say "ok guys, please mask up and get the vaccine" and surprise surprise, people aren't exactly trusting of them, why should they be? Why shouldn't people assume this is some kind of plot against us? We did it their way, we voted the nice, smiling black man into office and it led to a climate where they'd love to see white America rotting in a ditch, so they ain't exactly earned people's trust, it's no fucking wonder we have an environment where whatever the left says, people are going to do the opposite, we got stabbed in the back, plain and simple, so why should we ever trust or do what the left wants us to do ever again?

If we didn't live in such a hyper politized and polarized climate, which again, is the left's fault, then we wouldn't be in this state.
 
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Vaccination has NEVER been a left/right issue. Both Biden and Trump have told their bases repeatedly to get the shot
Avoiding a potentially life saving medication to own the libs is literally Q-tier petty bullshit
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It shouldn't be, but the left has gone hard on demanding people wear masks and get the vaccine, this same left who it's been proven that all the worst stereotypes and accusations about them are true, they really do hate America, they really do hate white people and they really do hate Christianity, so why should the rest of America trust them?

This is proof why this polarization was foolish though, if America was going to survive we needed to be a country that could come together to tackle major threats like this, but we've been so bitterly divided that we can't even agree on basic fucking reality anymore (ie gender and all that)
 
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It shouldn't be, but the left has gone hard on demanding people wear masks and get the vaccine, this same left who it's been proven that all the worst stereotypes and accusations about them are true, they really do hate America, they really do hate white people and they really do hate Christianity, so why should the rest of America trust them?

This is proof why this polarization was foolish though, if America was going to survive we needed to be a country that could come together to tackle major threats like this, but we've been so bitterly divided that we can't even agree on basic fucking reality anymore (ie gender and all that)
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I disagree with the leftist stuff but your second point is right. We had a serious chance to show the world that, when push comes to shove, America can stand strong in crisis and we blew it. No, we didn't just blow it, we beat it to death with a lead pipe. America deserves whatever happens to it in the future.

Anyway this thread is getting derailed hard
TLDR OP Just get the fucking Vaccine. Consult with your doctor if you're worried. Be skeptical about everything you read on the internet
 
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You shouldn't be coming to a internet forum for medical advice dude. If you don't have a family doctor, or a doctor you can trust, go see a few and then make an informed decision. We are not doctors and neither is your dad. Please people stop listening to social media in order to make medical decisions!
 
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I'm not getting the vaccine, because I don't trust governments, big pharma and all that jazz. We saw how the swineflu vaccine went. Not the same vaccine, but I'm sure something will show up with rushed vaccines. Which it already has.

Even though the FDA is going to approve the vaccine, I'm still skeptical. Because the FDA isn't to be trusted. I'm more into skincare, but the FDA is responsible to approve skincare ingredients too. The FDA still hasn't approved newer and more effective chemical filters for sunscreen as an example. Which is approved of in the EU.
Talc is iffy to buy anything of in USA, because it's much stricter to purify it in the EU too.

The vaccine doesn't even work on the newer variations of covid. @Almighty MoeBro Nation is very on about the vaccine is only to make symptoms less strong, but how do we know if they wouldn't get strong symptoms anyway?
We were promised an effective vaccine, but this is what we get and pro-vaxers seem to accept it just to spite the "evil anti-vaxers". Nobody is not taking the vaccine to spite libtards, as you seem to wish for. But libtards are one who are taking the vaccine to spite people, and I see much more bullying of the ones who does not take it than opposite.
 
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Just where are you "hearing" all of this bullshit? I've heard of a lot more people who've died after getting Covid than they have of the vaccine.

If it were just about one person, I wouldn't give a shit. But since the decision to vaccinate affects everyone, then anti-vaxxers piss me off. How else did we wipe out smallpox, for fuck's sake? It sure as hell wasn't from "personal choice".
 
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What's the point...we are all gonna die anyway.

The vaccine will kill many people and so will covid. Who gives a shit...
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What compels antivax retards to lie about literally everything? Vaccine complications and covid deaths aren't in any way comparable. It's the difference between a mountain and a molehill

I doubt your fellow countrymen appreciate having their life expectancy cut in half but who cares since "we're all gonna die anyways lulz"
 
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Just where are you "hearing" all of this bullshit? I've heard of a lot more people who've died after getting Covid than they have of the vaccine.

If it were just about one person, I wouldn't give a shit. But since the decision to vaccinate affects everyone, then anti-vaxxers piss me off. How else did we wipe out smallpox, for fuck's sake? It sure as hell wasn't from "personal choice".
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It's not wiping out anything and it's not like Smallpox. It's more like the flu.

It also isn't the same kind of Vaccine as Smallpox and is relatively new (at least for mass consumption) technology.
 
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I am not sure if that info is trustworthy or not. I legit can't believe anything I hear.
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Well, I don't know what to tell you. These are the only numbers we have. I'm going to recommend like everyone else here, to go talk to your doctor about this.

And I tried to find a site with collated data from all the states on ICU occupancy and vaccination rates within, its a mess. Some city/state health departments carry it, most don't, JHU doesn't have a centralized dashboard either.
 
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