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‘For the first time ever, I worry about doing drag gigs’​

In some ways, shows like RuPaul’s Drag Race UKhave made drag more mainstream than ever before, with performers appearing on TV, selling out venues and becoming the faces of fashion brands.

But some drag queens are feeling concerned over their safety in the wake of protests and social media attacks.

“For the first time ever, I do feel worried about doing some gigs,” says former Drag Race UK contestant Crystal. “I worry about protests and who's going to be filming me, and who's going to be trying to twist what I'm doing for an agenda.”

In the US state of Tennessee, lawmakers are trying to enact a law banning “male or female impersonators who provide entertainment” with adult content within 300 metres of public schools, parks or places of worship.

Central to the debate are drag storytelling events, in which drag queens read stories to children. Such events have been subject to protests in both the US and UK. Some argue that these shows contain no content unsuitable for children. Others consider drag performances as suitable only for adults.

What are Drag Queen Story Hours?​

“Drag Story Hour looks exactly like any other [event] you would see at a library,” says Jonathan Hamlit, Drag Story Hour’s executive director in the US. “But the reader may look a little more fabulous than your average librarian.”

The US-based Drag Story Hour favours books in which “all the characters feel empowered and accepted”.

Popular books at the drag storytelling events include Todd Parr’s The Family Book, which celebrates families of all types, and Tyler Feder’s Bodies Are Cool, which publisher Penguin calls “a cheerful love-your-body picture book for preschoolers”.

Drag Story Hour has a curriculum committee that chooses appropriate books. “We want to keep it positive and fun. And have all the characters feel empowered and accepted.”

Drag Race Story Hour UK is run by Sab Samuels, who performs as Aida H Dee and uses they/them pronouns out of drag. Their shows take inspiration from pantomime, a medium in which regularly features men playing larger-than-life “pantomime dames.”

For some, however, the very presence of men dressed as women make these events unsuitable for children. At a protest against the Drag Queen Story Hour UK event at London’s Tate Britain art gallery, a woman told the BBC: “We have concerns because we feel that the costume [drag queen] Aida H Dee wears is sexually inappropriate.

"We're here because we feel that drag queens are great but for people who are over 18. We feel like they are not suitable for anyone who is under 18."

Drag Race UK contestants have taken to social media to share their views. Among those addressing the issue is series four runner up Cheddar Gorgeous, who tweeted: “I think drag is a versatile set form that can be tailored to different audiences. It isn't so different from clowning or Disney princesses.” Series one winner The Vivienne wrote: “Our [the LGBT] community is under attack….again….This time it’s drag…This is madness”

This difference of opinion has led to clashes between supporters of these events and protests.

Jonathan says these protests are becoming increasingly violent in the US. “People are bringing weapons and yelling homophobic and transphobic slurs at children,” he says. “They’re threatening violence and storming events.”

In October 2022, a protest in the US state of Oregon included protestors carrying semi-automatic rifles and smoke bombs. In March, a protest in Ohio in which a man was arrested after drawing a pepper spray gun.

“The hardest part about doing a drag show used to be making sure my [wig] hairline was correct,” Jonathan says. “Now, it’s having a safety plan in case there’s an active shooter.”

‘You get called a groomer or a paedo online constantly’​

This level of violence has not been seen in the UK, but there have also been protests around drag storytelling events. “Last summer we had over 60 events [in the UK],” says Sab. “Only one of them didn't have any aggressive people outside shouting at me.”

Sab also says they have received death threats for their work, claiming to know their full name and address and threatening serious violence if they go near a child again.

Drag queens who have come to the defence of storytelling events have also received abuse online. “Once you dip your toe into that world,” says Crystal, “you get called a groomer or a paedo online constantly.”

The abuse takes its toll, Sab adds. “I definitely have moments where I just crawl into a ball,” they say. But they will not let the protestors stop the shows, and plans to take their storytelling show to the Edinburgh Festival later this year.

For them, drag has always been an act of defiance. They created their drag character after a homophobic attack left them with a dislocated shoulder. “I was thrown down the stairs,” they say, “and the person who did it to me said, ‘This is what happens when you act like a girl.’

“Then I entered a drag queen competition to say, ‘No, this is what happens when I act like a girl.’”

Jonathan also says he will not let the protests stop him. He says that though there have been violent protests, “our support is way greater than the hate.

“It motivates me to keep doing Story Hour for the next generation,” he adds.
 
Well, funnily enough, they are being protected by a cultish cabal of people who refuse to give testimony, arrest or prosecute, sound familiar?
Are you saying you know about someone committing sex crimes against children and are refusing to report it? Why, that's also a crime (unless you're a religious official in the 30+ states that make specific exemptions for religious leaders in mandatory reporter laws).
Please explain the benefits of exposing children to drag performances. Aside from the fact that you hate children and want them to suffer, I mean. I'll let it slide that historically it's been one of the most vulgar forms of performance—a plebian like me just needs to be enlightened to the clear benefits to children's developing minds—though I have to assume you haven't seen Pink Flamingos.
Children like dress up? Robin Williams in drag was a movie one of the kids in my neighborhood when I was a kid had to watch literally every day for some reason so the appeal was there for kids even in the 90s.

Robin Williams also did tons of incredibly vulgar adult-oriented stand-up in addition to the family movies he did. Because entertainers can be versatile and just because someone has created content for mature audiences doesn't mean they can't create tamer stuff that's more appropriate for all ages. Different forms of entertainment are the same way.
See. You don't care. You'll simp for the team, no matter what. Like it's the superbowl.

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Good thing there don't appear to be any children present at whatever event that is!

Got a shittier quality image btw?
 
Are you saying you know about someone committing sex crimes against children and are refusing to report it? Why, that's also a crime (unless you're a religious official in the 30+ states that make specific exemptions for religious leaders in mandatory reporter laws).

Children like dress up? Robin Williams in drag was a movie one of the kids in my neighborhood when I was a kid had to watch literally every day for some reason so the appeal was there for kids even in the 90s.

Robin Williams also did tons of incredibly vulgar adult-oriented stand-up in addition to the family movies he did. Because entertainers can be versatile and just because someone has created content for mature audiences doesn't mean they can't create tamer stuff that's more appropriate for all ages. Different forms of entertainment are the same way.

Good thing there don't appear to be any children present at whatever event that is!

Got a shittier quality image btw?
Robin Williams or Eddie Murphy dressed like silly old ladies is very, very different from the hypersexualized appearance and behavior of a drag queen, and you know it.

That being said crossdressing does seem to be a pedowood hazing ritual so who knows.
 
Drag isn't inherently sexual. As long as anything around kids is kept G-rated, who fucking cares if someone plays dress-up and lip-synchs a song or reads kids a story.
You got it backwards.

Dressing up is not inherently sexual, it's just dressing up.

Drag is sexual. It's a performance, it's basically burlesque plus crossdressing. It is sexual, it is for adults.

It doesn't matter if the show in question is PC. It's like saying it's fine to take a child to a brothel as long as the kid isn't having sex. What about you just don't? Take the kids to a zoo, a museum, even to a park; kids have nothing to do around adult performances.
 
It's funny how android raptor always comes into these types of threads to immediately deflect attention from her precious gay pedos to the church pedos
Reminds me of loli antis and how they always get caught with CP. Do we start calling drag defense the "android raptor effect"?
 
They got arrested instead of just put on a secret list and the wagons circled around them for decades. A lot easier to expose pedos that actually get reported and arrested.

If the church doesn't have power, why are pregnant 10 year olds being denied abortions?
Your biggest crime is that you're so tedious.
Please, please, please give it a rest. All pedos are bad. Left, right, religious, alphabet, clown coloured, male, female.
Address the actual topic, stop picking your personal scabs in public, it's unseemly.
 
Look drag shows are meant for adults. No one had an issue with Rudy Giuliani doing drag and I found it funny.
The problem is pedos are using drag queen story time hour and drag shows to get close to kids when drag queens should basically say no kids at the venues.
In this topic: someone can't fathom hating both the Religious Right and drag queens that want to perform around children.
There's a difference between Sunday school where some teenager says why Jesus is cool to the kids and a drag queen telling you that you can be non binary and gender non conforming all the time. I think people really have an issue with pedos using positions of power to abuse kids.

Is that why Arkansas law enforcement just shat themselves and did nothing when Josh Duggar was first reported to them as a teen for molesting his little sisters?

Is that why children are being denied abortions in several states after being raped?
Of course you use but muh Christian muh republicans as a some brainlet logic to excuse some nonce doing explicit drag to children because Christan pastor somewhere raped kids. It's almost as disgusting as someone saying well a nigger raped a girl so I should be able to too.
 
For some, however, the very presence of men dressed as women make these events unsuitable for children. At a protest against the Drag Queen Story Hour UK event at London’s Tate Britain art gallery, a woman told the BBC: “We have concerns because we feel that the costume [drag queen] Aida H Dee wears is sexually inappropriate.
Are they gaslighting people? the same paragraph says the problem is these are men in drag while the worst person they can quote (its always the worse they can find) is simply saying the problem is that they are dressed as whores, around children. It would still be fucking inappropriate if actual women did that shit
Remember when the left was having a fucking stroke with little girl beauty shows in some hicktown of burgerstan?

And now they basically step over each other to be the first to praise the tranny kids on the runway of some major city, fucking insane
Really because to this day most religious pedos are never even reported to authorities
The problem is that their own communities protect them, the jews have a huge problem with rabbis going to town on girls and boys but those orthodox groups are closed af even to the authorities so good luck making an arrest
 
Good thing there don't appear to be any children present at whatever event that is!

Got a shittier quality image btw?

You're on the internet right now. You have the ability to find the actual video, with children in the crowd, in 30 seconds.

But I know you are just being a football fan, excusing anything your team does because we just have to beat the fundie football team. Truth, morals, proof? That's loser talk.
 
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They appear to be completely one dimensional. Selfish and consumed by vengeance. They'd poison everyone on earth if it meant fundies would suffer.
For most of these types they think, just be good and that will save the world yet they themselves are so one dimensional that they will save the world
No, I'd throw kids into the woodchipper if I couldn't abort them as embryos. Duh. How much of a newfag are you?
Obviously you're a bitter and angry spiteful mutant.
Pedos are bad, and mostly unrelated to drag queens.
I mean we can go through enough articles and happenings threads to disprove that and you know it. Doesn't mean drag queens are a problem, I love drag shows they're funny, I don't want them for children.
 
Drag shows are inherently adult, doing drag for children is extremely questionable. I think most people want to say no to it, but I think society is being bullied into allowing them to happen as the bigot allegations and attempts to get you fired from your job will come if you say "no"
 
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Your biggest crime is that you're so tedious.
Please, please, please give it a rest. All pedos are bad. Left, right, religious, alphabet, clown coloured, male, female.
Address the actual topic, stop picking your personal scabs in public, it's unseemly.
The actual topic is drag queens, not pedophiles.
You're on the internet right now. You have the ability to find the actual video, with children in the crowd, in 30 seconds.
But I'm lazy.

Btw when I was a kid I thought Little Nicky was one of the greatest movies ever made because of the part where Hitler gets a pineapple shoved up his ass in a maid outfit.
 
The actual topic is drag queens, not pedophiles.

Tell the drag queens will you? They aren't helping themselves.

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It's funny how android raptor always comes into these types of threads to immediately deflect attention from her precious gay pedos to the church pedos
And yet the Thunderdome never fails to take my bait
Tell the drag queens will you? They aren't helping themselves.

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Just 25? Out of however many millions of drag queens in existence? Damn they got work to do if they wanna get anywhere near just the amount of legally-documemented religious pedos. SBC alone is over 200 with the latest ongoing scandal
 
Most of those pics either don't show anything inappropriate
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Seriously? this isn't inappropriate to you?

Does this?
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I dont like these beauty contests either but which ones look more whorish and oversexualized to you? the girls in dresses? or the BOYS wearing street walker attire? scratch that, even hookers have more clothes on than those, again, boys, who are around a 6 foot troon
 
"I was only pretending"
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Seriously? this isn't inappropriate to you?

Does this?
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I dont like these beauty contests either but which ones look more whorish and oversexualized to you? the girls in dresses? or the BOYS wearing street walker attire? scratch that, even hookers have more clothes on than those, again, boys, who are around a 6 foot troon
Wait til you see how girls on cheer and dance teams dress. Or girls going to the pool or waterpark.

Who says all the kids are boys either? Not that it makes a different.
 
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