For those of us in very bad shape- your exercise/diet plan progress and mine

I need to admit, I'm a bit on the heavy side myself. roughly close to 300 pounds, but yet I only am really fat in the gut and some bit in the upper thighs. a good chunk of my weight gain was the result of some medication I took in my 6-8th grade years. I went from being the skinny kid to double the weight in a year. The weight gain still continued after I stopped it, just not as much. Eventually I more or less hit a platau and have been stuck around it forever. I do go out on a walk everyday, except for lately because of the shitty temperatures. I can handle rain and snow, just not having my face absolutely freezing at single digit freedom unit temps. I was born with a heart defect and even when I was skinny I never performed well at physical activity at all. I've tried multiple times to turn things around and I always fail.

The first thing you need to accept is that medication you took as a child is not to blame for your current physical state.
You will either get tired of your condition and put in the willpower and effort to change it or you won't.
If you want to try putting in the effort there are plenty of people here who will lend you support.
 
The first thing you need to accept is that medication you took as a child is not to blame for your current physical state.

No it's not entirely responsible, but it was a contributing factor.

You will either get tired of your condition and put in the willpower and effort to change it or you won't.
If you want to try putting in the effort there are plenty of people here who will lend you support.

I'm willing to hear suggestions on what I can reasonably do and get to stick.
 
I went from an active/strong but real fat ~250 to ~175 real fast by using mfp and eating like 1800 a day back in 2016 but I managed to fit in a bunch of junk food into that 1800, didn't keep a good protein intake and stopped working out. I did still ride my bike lots, I lost a ton of strength and just the last year been putting that back on.

So make sure to hit some weights too and don't be like me thinking it wont do anything for you on a diet cause that's not true.
 
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I've always been on the heavier side, and have gone up and down in weight my adult life in the past ~20 years from roughly 220-280 fluctuating back and forth. I would get on a fitness or health kick and for one reason or another always fall back off the wagon. Luckily I've never had any major health issues from my weight. Well, I got an annual physical exam this October and when I stepped on the scale I was absolutely disgusted with myself. 304 pounds. I've never been anywhere close to that weight before. Like everyone else, I'm not getting any younger, and I don't want to be one of "those people" that you see on mobility scooters by 40 or dead of a heart attack before the age of 50.

It was embarrassing as hell, but I found a well regarded dietitian and weight loss specialist who I consulted with and has helped me out greatly. I've always known what foods are generally "healthy" but have learned alot about macro and micro nutrients, what combinations of food work well together, and what "healthy" foods you should avoid like the plague, or limit to small amounts. I downloaded an app and for the first time ever, I'm keeping track of everything I eat and drink (besides water) and it keeps tabs on my calories, vitamins, protein, fats, etc. I've cut out all added sugar, fast food, processed foods, most anything that has preservatives, and anything that is pretty much "prepackaged convenience store" junk. I haven't necessarily gone keto diet, but have cut back on carbs, generally switching out rice and potatoes for beans and other filling foods with more fiber, less starch and a better, lower glycemic index. I generally aim for less than 2000 calories a day, but everyone is different depending on their goals and body type.

I've also started going to the gym after work for light exercise over the past month, and while I've never been a fan of running, getting back into the routine of daily weightlifting makes me feel amazing and like I did during football season in high school! In less than 2 months, since November 10th I've gone from 304 pounds to 268 as of December 26th. Thats with no crash dieting or starvation, no bullshit water restriction or marathon sessions in the gym.

At the very least I would first off consult a trusted doctor about exercise regimens and what is safe for you to do, so you can avoid injuries that would make your situation worse. Then, find a legit dietitian or a good and experienced weight loss center in your area, they would be more helpful than Jimbob's cousin's uncle from down the street or assholes on the internet. I would also recommend a good meal tracker or calorie counter app that has real nutritional information on the foods that you eat, or you can scan the barcodes of food packaging and it automatically comes up, not just what you "think" the calories of something are, and then LOG EVERYTHING! From a cup of coffee to a full meal down to the seasoning, it is important to keep track of your complete daily food intake if you're serious about losing weight. Forget the concept of a "cheat meal" or "cheat day!" Choose better whenever you can! Obviously some foods should be avoided, but just about anything can be had in moderation, although I would start looking for healthier substitutes for the really bad foods. I know I keep bringing it up, but if you use a good app and actually see what you are eating, it helps you avoid shitty foods if you really care about making an improvement.

And I cannot stress enough how important it is to just get yourself up and moving around. Get your heartrate up, sweat a little, and enjoy things! Don't expect miracles in a day, and don't get discouraged if you skip a day of exercise or eating right, but don't make it a habit or use it as an excuse to give up. And don't let the assholes discourage you either. Its the internet, so no matter what they say, they're just as likely to be a basement dwelling incel as they are to be the literal reincarnation of 1984 Schwarzenegger.
 
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Christ OP where do I start?
Monday through Friday. 6 egg omelet?
6
fucking
eggs.
Do you realize how HUGE a 6 egg omelet is? A brunch omelet at a restaurant is generally 2.
3 for a big boy. You're doing double that. And that's for breakfast.
Your diet needs some serious work. You'll want a light breakfast. 2 eggs. A cup of steamed veggies and rice. Buy a rice cooker. They're cheap. They're cheap especially if it's a small simple one. You can throw veggies and rice in there together.
Set it and forget it.
No problem.
Eat more times a day. Less food for meal. 3 meals and a light snack.
Also cut out the soda if you're on that train. Or at least cut it down. If you drink soda. Drink an equally large quantity of water between them.
Your goal is to cut it out of your deit as much as possible.

Working out
1 hour per workout.
That's the laziest shit ever. It's like you're wanting to pretend you're doing something to say you're doing something. You need to be doing double that. Also in my opinion your sets/reps are jacked up.
Split your reps up evenly between your sets,
If your goal is to lose weight then you should dedicate an hour on just the bench/weights by itself.
Spend 30-40 minutes doing cardio. The rest on the bag winding down. 20-30 minutes.
Do this every other day.
 
Ok fren, I've been there (ish) and have lost about a hundred pounds and kept it off.

Right now do not start exercising. It is literally not safe for you at your weight. You drastically increase the likelihood of serious injuries that could result in being bedbound. What is there to do in bed? Eat. What maladptive behavior have you learned to deal with anything uncomfortable in life? Fucking eating. (Still there, sucks donkey balls)

Here's a truism people who have lost weight and kept it off often parrot: you can't outrun a shitty diet.

They parrot it because it's true.

All you need to do at this size is fucking eat less. Eat the foods you like, I don't care what it is, just eat less of it. Don't do low fat/keto right now. Just stop eating so much.

If you eat a large pizza in one sitting, order a medium instead. If you drink two thousand calories of soda, switch to only drinking diet soda. If you always stop at the same place for junk food when going to work, drive in the other lane so it's more work to get over and stop. If you eat a bag of chips in one sitting, stop buying chips altogether. Eventually you may be able to eat your own weaknesses in moderation, but right now you cannot try to do that.

Yes, it's not healthy eating, but right now your only goal should be consistently eating less. Forever and ever, amen. If you make big changes you likely won't stick to them, if you cut back on the food you already overeat the weight will literally fall off of you in handfuls.

I would lose an easy ten pounds a week when I started. The more you have to lose, the faster it will come off you. It won't hurt your heart or whatever right now to lose a ton of weight each week, it's normal.

Eventually you will have adjust your diet to involve lots of veggies if you want to reach your goal weight. The problem with the hyperpalatable foods we fattie love so much is they aren't very filling when you eat only the serving size. I dropped eighty pounds without changing my diet at all, I can't do it that way anymore. If you want to get a head start on this process find a good basic healthy eating cookbook and start doing a recipe that involves mostly vegetables and lean protein one day a week.

Tracking your food is important too. I used my fitness pal for my weight loss. Track everything you eat. Everything you drink. Literally everything. If you have a bite of food or a sip of soda: write it down in the app. Measure everything you put in your mouth. I guarantee you that you have no clue what 1/2 C of cottage cheese (or whatever) looks like.

St some point the weight will stop falling off. You'll think you've hit a plateau. Plateaus are always caused by eating too many calories. Always. Always. Check your tracking, cut back a hundred calories, and the weight will come off again.

The best way to be accurate in your logs is to weigh all solid foods in grams and only use measuring cups/spoons for liquids. You don't have to worry about this at this point, just tracking and eating less will do just fine.

The other most important thing is compassion for yourself. You will have days you fuck it all to hell. You will fall off the wagon. No one eats "perfectly" all the time, except othrorexics. The only way this will succeed is if you get right back on the program. If you eat a too big meal, log it, and do better the next meal. Not the next day, because that turns into next week or next month.

I like weighing daily, but understand that weight goes up and down every day for complicated biological reasons. If you have an iPhone use the app Happy Scale. It is amazing for showing your trend over time. I don't think it's on Android, but myfitnesspal will show a similar graph.

Lastly, in order for this to be successful it has to be a complete lifestyle change. You will never, ever, ever be able to go back to eating like you do now. Unless you want to gain the weight back. Which you don't.

You can do this. It is so simple, but it's not easy. The benefits are so worth it though. I still have a ways to go myself, but my life has improved in so many ways, ways you can't even understand until you go through them yourself even if I told you the many different ways. I believe in you. I'm rooting for you. Good luck fren.
 
What you eat is irrelevant if you can restrict your eating window to four hours a day. Outside of that window only carbonated water, lemon water, black coffee, water, salt water.

Hunger, dehydration, and electrolyte insufficiency all feel like you're dying in subtly different ways. The trick is to break the cycle of insulin resistance without hurting yourself. When you first start fasting you will feel bad from electrolyte insufficiency and hunger. Ignoring the hunger while takung sufficient salt is key.

I personally started watching 10 hour Korean street food compilations while having the worst cravings. It helped me avoid eating by doing something to my brain.

After one year of this I lost 30% body weight.
 
Count
Your
Calories

Especially you, OP, who are too heavy to safely do any sort of intense exercise. I have visible abs in my 30s and can (barely) deadlift your 419lbs. how? Counting calories and not stopping the quest to be better, never stop improving, you deserve better than what you are but you have to earn it.
 
you deserve better than what you are but you have to earn it.
This. It may sound harsh, but it's more powerful than you realize.

@Warpath , You deserve to be able to run around free and have energy and feel good about yourself, BUT you have to earn it.
That's the part that actually makes you feel really good. Not the magically being thinner part. The hard work and grit that you've put in. You will get there if you hold onto that ethos.

I've never been overweight, I was a ballerina for most of my youth and I've always been super active, but lately due to work and a chronic illness I have, I haven't been as active.
I've not put on weight, but I've lost muscle tone and strength. That hard work you can and do put into things is what really gives you pride and energy to keep going. When you stop, you notice it. It's a loss of purpose.

I have a very overweight friend, who has had interventions to help her lose the weight, but she's never really lost anything meaningful, because she never wants to put the hard work in.
She'd rather fuck around and do what "feels" good, rather than put that hard work in. It's sad, she'll always be fat and could die before she's 40, but no matter what you do to her, she doesn't get it.

You seem to at least know what to do and know where you're heading, so I really do hope you're able to rise above it and stick to this.
 
One meal a day. Eat a decent sized meal once a day and drunk fluids throughout the day. Make that meal mostly protein, low carbs, and no sugar. If you can go for walks. Don't run as that will hurt your knees. If you can walk then walk in a pool. Lift weights to start gaining muscle but cardiovascular health should be priority. Every once in a while do a 4 day fast but make sure you get your salts in (look up snake juice)
 
Intermittent fasting isn't magic. The last thing a fat needs to hear is "What you eat is irrelevant".
I fell for that trap in my early 20's and gained the weight I'd lost back and then some. Count your calories, but also eat sensibly. You can't have cheat days every other day, it's just simply not going to work in the long run. Drink lots of water too. It's what your body naturally craves and it'll flush out gunk you probably weren't even aware was dragging you down.

you deserve better than what you are but you have to earn it.
This was also a painful, but very practical, lesson I had to learn. You can't feel sorry for yourself, you have to keep moving forward to achieve what you want. Keep a logbook of your progress, it helps to have it down on paper so you can physically see how you're progressing. Don't let yourself slip back into old habits if you have an awful day and shove a pizza down your throat to feel better. You fucked up, so try again tomorrow. This won't be an overnight success but nothing that's worth doing is.
 
Intermittent fasting isn't magic. The last thing a fat needs to hear is "What you eat is irrelevant".
💯 this fat faggot is too fat for bariatric surgery lmao. Tequila and Oreos are vegan. Doesn’t mean you’ll lose weight. Dis nigga is eating a half a carton of eggs for breakfast.

I’d still suggest intermittent fasting for steady fat loss but would use OMAD because you can program it and weigh out your food ahead of time. It will work if you have everything premade and measured so when it’s feeding time, you won’t have to think. If you’re addicted to food, having the freedom to eat what you want when you want will cause you to fail. In addition, it’s zero-sum; there’s no opportunity to cheat - you either stick to it or don’t.

I’d also suggests close to 0 net carbs as possible and supplementing with exogenous ketones to help glucose cravings.

Contrary to other Kiwis, I’d suggest low impact cardio WITH A HEART MONITOR keeping BPM under what is suggested by an ACTUAL DOCTOR. You’re not getting fit at your weight, but it will help reduce cortisol, increase some testosterone, and reduce muscle loss.

Or you can keep doing what you’re doing but start doing progressive loading. You’ll get yoked, but die of heart failure in a couple years, but it sounds like that was your plan anyway 🤷🏿‍♂️
 
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@Warpath Any updates? We're past the 3 month mark. If you were going to make a meaningful change, you would've seen some results by now
I'm not very optimistic...
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As a fat fuck myself I get it. It's hard to take the first real steps and weaning yourself down to a svelte six-egg cheese omelet ain't a first step. I can't imagine what breakfast was like before if that's a step down.
I can speak from my own experience and say it's easier for me to hit hard goals than easy ones. If I try to eat 2000 calories I make excuses. There's room for this cookie. There's room for extra cheese. etc
If I eat 1200 calories it's basically. I get a 200 cal breakfast, a 400 cal lunch, and a 600 cal dinner and that's it, if I want something else I can go fuck myself, the end.
 
As a fat fuck myself I get it. It's hard to take the first real steps and weaning yourself down to a svelte six-egg cheese omelet ain't a first step. I can't imagine what breakfast was like before if that's a step down.
I can speak from my own experience and say it's easier for me to hit hard goals than easy ones. If I try to eat 2000 calories I make excuses. There's room for this cookie. There's room for extra cheese. etc
If I eat 1200 calories it's basically. I get a 200 cal breakfast, a 400 cal lunch, and a 600 cal dinner and that's it, if I want something else I can go fuck myself, the end.
Dieting alone tends to be very hard, especially for obese people used to eat a lot, often as a way to pass time or to drown their sorrows, so to say. There's also the tedium of counting calories, feeling guilty (and binge eating) when you fail your diet plan and so on.
This is why it should nearly always be combined with exercise. Exercise also sometimes tends to also alleviate "hunger", at least for a few hours after you're done, so you could go for a 1 hr run, and then you have to shower, have to chill some and catch your breath, maybe do a bit of foam rolling for your sore legs and so on, and hunger won't really hit you for hours.
And you get the satisfaction of actually seeing fast results that are more maintainable. Large part of obesity is chronic water retention, starting to work out will make you shed a LOT of kgs in the first 2-3 months.
Will it hurt?
If you're really fat, yes, absolutely. But it does get better in just weeks.
The idea is to get toa point where you exercise enough that you can eat at leisure without worrying too much. So you want that 6 eggs omelet with bacon and some nice fresh bread? Sure, who cares, go for it. Not that important when you know you'll do a chill, long run in 2 hrs later that will consume 1600-2000 kcals.
 
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