Former Celebrities

  • 🏰 The Fediverse is up. If you know, you know.
  • Want to keep track of this thread?
    Accounts can bookmark posts, watch threads for updates, and jump back to where you stopped reading.
    Create account
I'm not sure if he's a total lolcow yet, but George Lucas has, in the past few years, been saying things that seem almost demented. Most recently and controversially, he compared Disney buying Star Wars to "white slavery," whatever that means. Keep in mind that the sale was his idea, and he made four billion dollars off it.
 
Pinball Lizard said:
I'm not sure if he's a total lolcow yet, but George Lucas has, in the past few years, been saying things that seem almost demented. Most recently and controversially, he compared Disney buying Star Wars to "white slavery," whatever that means. Keep in mind that the sale was his idea, and he made four billion dollars off it.
Click to expand...

... ... ... ... ...? So What the fuck is his problem, then?! Does he want 4 billion more dollars?!
 
Shokew said:
... ... ... ... ...? So What the fuck is his problem, then?! Does he want 4 billion more dollars?!
Click to expand...

Apparently, he was upset that he had given Disney some Episode VII ideas, but they didn't use any. And I can empathize with that, but there'd certainly be a better way of putting it...
 
Pinball Lizard said:
Apparently, he was upset that he had given Disney some Episode VII ideas, but they didn't use any. And I can empathize with that, but there'd certainly be a better way of putting it...
Click to expand...

Yeah - that is something to get angry over - at least it ain't what I think it was... But I'm being optimistic with that!
 
There's also this story, apparently from right before the buyout. A developer was making a video game about Darth Maul (since canceled) and wanted to see what Lucas thought, so they invited him over. In the room where they met there were statues of Maul and Darth Talon, a female Sith from one of the EU comics, specifically one set in the Star Wars universe's future. As soon as Lucas sees Talon, he demands that they put her in the game and have her be Maul's friend/buddy cop-style partner. When it's pointed out to Lucas that Talon wouldn't be born for another hundred in-universe years, Lucas basically just says "Make it work somehow!"

And he also did an impression of Lauren Bacall for some reason.

It seemed to make everybody uncomfortable.
 
I think Lucas was always a bit lolish about his "ideas" and the only reason the original SW was such a hit was that they were on a (comparative) shoestring budget so a lot if his ideas got canned under the "there's no way to do that" or "we don't have the budget for that" excuse. once, however, affordable CGI and clout came his way.... we got Jar Jar Binks.
 
TowinKarz said:
I think Lucas was always a bit lolish about his "ideas" and the only reason the original SW was such a hit was that they were on a (comparative) shoestring budget so a lot if his ideas got canned under the "there's no way to do that" or "we don't have the budget for that" excuse. once, however, affordable CGI and clout came his way.... we got Jar Jar Binks.
Click to expand...

Lucas was also surrounded by people who brought out the best in him, such as his now-ex-wife Marcia who was also his editor. When the time came to make the Prequels he was effectively handed full creative control, failing to understand that this actually WASN'T what made Star Wars great. I don't think that necessarily makes him a lolcow, though.
 
Pinball Lizard said:
I'm not sure if he's a total lolcow yet, but George Lucas has, in the past few years, been saying things that seem almost demented. Most recently and controversially, he compared Disney buying Star Wars to "white slavery," whatever that means. Keep in mind that the sale was his idea, and he made four billion dollars off it.
Click to expand...

Yea Lucas is a one trick pony, not even a original one seeing as how his cashcow Starwars is a rip off of Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress (and even then is had to be extensively rewritten by Alan Dean Foster to make it into a barely working script). His whole carrier has been a rather long lucky streak by being able to meet the right person at the right time who was able to carry him when he was flaing around not really knowing what to do. Hell his Other cashcow indiana jones wasn't even his idea Stephen Spelberg gave him the idea and even then others had to push the crazy train in the right direction, and keeping his bad ideas from ending up in the final cut to a bare minimum or better still on the cutting room floor.

The best example of this is that the best films in all of his franchises are the ones he was least involved in be it from a directorial and editing standpoint (empire strikes back) or from a script writing standpoint, and the worst ones are the one he has the most involvement in (Return of the Jedi & Kingdom of the Crystal Skull).
The only thing that keeps his name attached to so many franchises is because he demands Producer and Executive Producer credits on any film he's even tangentially involved in, an sadly because of his name cropping up so much he tends to get his way.

The only reason that he's seeming more like a exceptional individual now is because he's finally isolated himself from the people he surrounded himself with that made him look "great" so they are not there to keep him inline, and I'm glad he's feeling but hurt over Starwars he has't really earned the fawning and worship he's got.
 
Ravenor said:
Yea Lucas is a one trick pony, not even a original one seeing as how his cashcow Starwars is a rip off of Akira Kurosawa's The Hidden Fortress (and even then is had to be extensively rewritten by Alan Dean Foster to make it into a barely working script). His whole carrier has been a rather long lucky streak by being able to meet the right person at the right time who was able to carry him when he was flaing around not really knowing what to do. Hell his Other cashcow indiana jones wasn't even his idea Stephen Spelberg gave him the idea and even then others had to push the crazy train in the right direction, and keeping his bad ideas from ending up in the final cut to a bare minimum or better still on the cutting room floor.

The best example of this is that the best films in all of his franchises are the ones he was least involved in be it from a directorial and editing standpoint (empire strikes back) or from a script writing standpoint, and the worst ones are the one he has the most involvement in (Return of the Jedi & Kingdom of the Crystal Skull).
The only thing that keeps his name attached to so many franchises is because he demands Producer and Executive Producer credits on any film he's even tangentially involved in, an sadly because of his name cropping up so much he tends to get his way.

The only reason that he's seeming more like a exceptional individual now is because he's finally isolated himself from the people he surrounded himself with that made him look "great" so they are not there to keep him inline, and I'm glad he's feeling but hurt over Starwars he has't really earned the fawning and worship he's got.
Click to expand...
Yeah, I get so sick of fans worshiping George and saying what a genius he was. You only have to look at the Prequels to see what could've been if George had had that kind of power when he made the Originals. If that had been the case, Star Wars would be remembered as another crap, campy Flash Gordon rip-off rather than the box office juggernaut it is today. I will say that George is a good businessman so he is mostly responsible for Star Wars being a merchandising bonanza but beyond that and the initial spark of the story, the success of Star Wars has virtually nothing to do with him.

His behaviour since the sale to Disney has been nothing short of ludicrous but his behaviour before wasn't great either. He gave an interview to 60 Minutes where, when asked about the negative reception of the Prequels, he said that the critics hadn't liked any of the Star Wars movies. Anyone with a functioning brain knows immediately that that statement is demonstratively false, but he then went on to play the victim card and said that the critics had always been out to get him.

George has always veered dangerously close to being a professional victim when it comes to his treatment by fans, critics and now Disney. Even still, his white slavers comment was pretty beyond the pale. I don't often agree with Tumblr or SJWs but in this situation their rage is justified. I think the problem is, it was the first time in a long time that someone finally told him to go fuck himself and when you've spent the past two decades surrounded by yes men and sycophants that has to sting.
 
Pinball Lizard said:
Most recently and controversially, he compared Disney buying Star Wars to "white slavery," whatever that means.
Click to expand...

It means they're really bad, because everyone knows you're not supposed to use WHITE people as slaves!
 
"White slavery" is another way to refer to prostitution - a way that hasn't been used since the end of World War II, at least.

So George Lucas thinks that Disney is whoring Star Wars out like a pimp.
 
I'm pretty neutral on Lucas myself. I don't think he's either a perfect saint or a tyrant who took credit for things he probably wasn't due for. He's just a guy who's probably far better at ideas than execution, which makes him... well, human. That said, I'll definitely keep watch to see if he says anything else embarrassing, as there could definitely be funny lying thataway.
 
Pinball Lizard said:
I'm pretty neutral on Lucas myself. I don't think he's either a perfect saint or a tyrant who took credit for things he probably wasn't due for. He's just a guy who's probably far better at ideas than execution, which makes him... well, human. That said, I'll definitely keep watch to see if he says anything else embarrassing, as there could definitely be funny lying thataway.
Click to expand...

I think he's kind of a douche who was in the right place at the right time for lightning to strike once (original SW trilogy), and managed not to fuck it up that time, but has much less talent than he thinks.

Most of the success of the first SW films were because of other people (like Kasdan and Kershner) who he had the sense not to interfere with. When he decided he was an auteur of some sort the results were awful.
 
AnOminous said:
I think he's kind of a douche who was in the right place at the right time for lightning to strike once (original SW trilogy), and managed not to fuck it up that time, but has much less talent than he thinks.

Most of the success of the first SW films were because of other people (like Kasdan and Kershner) who he had the sense not to interfere with. When he decided he was an auteur of some sort the results were awful.
Click to expand...

I can't remember who the heck said it originally, but I quote: "George Lucas started sucking when he stopped citing Flash Gordon as inspiration and started citing the Hero's Journey."
 
Vontaze Burfict - one of the two Bengals players whose shocking behavior caused the two major penalties that let the Steelers win at the last second last Saturday - probably will not be considered a hot celeb after that game. Dude sounds like an asshole (as demonstrated by his actions, of course) and while most of the ire currently is on the Bengals coach for failing to keep his players in line, said coach is also the only reason Vontaze was ever allowed to play in the Bengals in the first place. From the news reports, the Bengals haven't won in the playoffs since the early 1990's, so to be that guy who prevented breaking that streak by causing a completely thoughtless penalty and helping the other team win as a result? It's going to be hard to ever escape that stigma.

Steamboat_Bill said:
So George Lucas thinks that Disney is whoring Star Wars out like a pimp.
Click to expand...

They paid $4 billion for the fucking franchise, did he expect them not to immediately plan on getting money back on that major investment? Seriously, if the mouse was truly interested in milking the absolute, true possible maximum from Star Wars, then they would have done everything that's already happened...AND somehow forced a limited edition re-release of the infamous Holiday Special since the fanbase would pay stupid amounts of money to own a "restored" version of the one official thing in SW that's never gotten mass distribution (and to a lesser extent the thing in which Jango Fett debuted since he's inexplicably the only thing keeping the Holiday Special canon).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom