Former Chan users and their taste for Power Tripping - An interesting trend I've noticed online and irl

I think there's some truth to everyone's input, and it depends on the actual level of involvement people had.

For more involved people it's like tranny janny syndrome, because the thing is that it isn't just chans or KF, it's all kinds of shit. Gaming is notorious for it. Any "outsider" community has these people who show up and glom onto it not because they enjoy it, but simply because they're obsessed with acceptance and social status.

So they'll continue investing themselves into it more and more until following one of two diverting paths; they either move up in the community until they become unpaid staff and basically turn the place into resetera, becoming increasingly more overbearing and power hungry until they run the community into the ground in order to feed their obsession with control, or they push their luck until they run into a wall and are told they aren't that welcome and should stay in their lane.

These people aren't necessarily sorry, they're just embarrassed to have thrown their lot in with the wrong group, and they're bitter about their rejection. Whichever group gives them the most validation is the one they'll go with, but I think most of them still wish they were popular with the edgy crowd.

Hell, it's been the case around here possibly more than average. There's an entire cabal of retards always engaging in gay little schemes to get back at the site and Josh and whatever else because they're mad everyone doesn't treat them like the next coming of christ, even though they all clearly desperately wish the kiwis liked them.
You'll see it in tons of people like ShoeOnHead who were happy to be edgy e-girls because they could be young and cute, and now that they're getting older they switch sides and disavow. Again, that's about rejection, bitterness, and insecurity more than anything.

Fortunately I think this also goes in the opposite direction, that a lot of very aggravatingly liberal college age people will eventually become the based.
 
I told here so many time: i was a 4chan user, both lurker and commentarist.
I don't want to go back. The captcha shit really killed the versality of the imageboards.
Sometimes i got very specific info, like the early-phase before the pilot with ATLA in /co/. But generally that thread is infested by cartoon waifufags and comic haters.
The others... are in their own worlds.
 
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the Captcha killed 4chan for me but I can at least look back fondly at my time there and be glad it made my default reaction to shit like gore to laugh ath ow pathetic the person is.
 
Chans can be alright and my time on them was good and I learned alot, but people have to stop acting like they're the pinnacle of online culture, they're way overhyped for what amounts to occasionally good discussions and memes interspersed with the ravings of severely mentally ill people and porn, and they're basically unusable after a board gets above 100 pph
 
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I don't get why people get so sentimental over imageboards. It was just something to do online when you're bored. It hasn't been a sekrit club in decades. Everyone knows about the internet hate machine. And I don't trust people who disavow imageboards vehemently. As cliche as it is, those types of people probably are frequent users themselves but they hate it. It always amused me to see so much vitriol thrown at crypto-redditors on 4chan since a huge swath of the userbase there now probably came from reddit in the 2010s.
 
Terminally online young people with no IRL community often vacillate wildly between political extremes because they lack identity and end up forming para social ones based on whatever corner of the Internet they're currently spending all day on. Not really that surprising or interesting.
 
I think there's some truth to everyone's input, and it depends on the actual level of involvement people had.

For more involved people it's like tranny janny syndrome, because the thing is that it isn't just chans or KF, it's all kinds of shit. Gaming is notorious for it. Any "outsider" community has these people who show up and glom onto it not because they enjoy it, but simply because they're obsessed with acceptance and social status.

So they'll continue investing themselves into it more and more until following one of two diverting paths; they either move up in the community until they become unpaid staff and basically turn the place into resetera, becoming increasingly more overbearing and power hungry until they run the community into the ground in order to feed their obsession with control, or they push their luck until they run into a wall and are told they aren't that welcome and should stay in their lane.

These people aren't necessarily sorry, they're just embarrassed to have thrown their lot in with the wrong group, and they're bitter about their rejection. Whichever group gives them the most validation is the one they'll go with, but I think most of them still wish they were popular with the edgy crowd.

Hell, it's been the case around here possibly more than average. There's an entire cabal of retards always engaging in gay little schemes to get back at the site and Josh and whatever else because they're mad everyone doesn't treat them like the next coming of christ, even though they all clearly desperately wish the kiwis liked them.
You'll see it in tons of people like ShoeOnHead who were happy to be edgy e-girls because they could be young and cute, and now that they're getting older they switch sides and disavow. Again, that's about rejection, bitterness, and insecurity more than anything.

Fortunately I think this also goes in the opposite direction, that a lot of very aggravatingly liberal college age people will eventually become the based.
The worst part is that these card carrying commies still think they're the edgy counter culture.
 
The interesting thing about anonymous chans, as in, you can't even track which post is whose (rather than the pseudonymous nature of kiwifarms or even /pol/), is that what you're looking at is water.

You put water into a cup it becomes a cup. You put water into a teapot, it becomes a teapot. To some degree, you really do end up seeing what you expect. Because you don't know who says what, even the basic flow of conversation is how you personally interpret it.

Your own interpretation shapes what happened to a higher degree than anywhere else. And that's when one of the major blindspots in general is how self centered our perception is, as we're at the absolute center of every single experience we have.

I also don't think it's behaviour exclusive to sjws. People that join groups with a lot of demands, often have a story about their before time. Whether it's someone that joined a church, or a cult, or started a business after years of drug use and partying, or started partying after years of wageslaving. We use these stories to go on a new path and make sense of why we did x before and why we chooae to not have x in our future.

Or of course, we would want to continue, but it's simply the price of admission to a social group/circle.

I have never used 4chan other to lurk
I think anyone who takes a website seriously are massive faggots who need to go outside and touch some grass.

Yes, touch grass, the recommendation that is only made by people that are terminally online.
 
To be honest, the more I have used the farms, the more I've become to absolutely hate the majority of the users here. While I generally despise the modern-day leftists and the hell they try to bring upon Earth, using farms has made me to hate conservatives, fascists and other sub-human swine dwelling in this pit of mental sewage even more.

It's remarkable; although I've always been more or less politically non-aligned to neither left nor right, the years I've tortured myself with the mental diarrhea spewing forth from the brains of those who inhabit this affront to all that is good, have in the end made me to see that even the other option, that of insane and retarded wannabe-communists to be just slightly better. If freedom of speech means this, then freedom of speech has exactly the same value as shit.
 
My theory is that these people posted on the chans in order to indulge in their toxic power fetish or something else along those lines. It gave them a high.

Personally, looking at what I see, anyone who says they disavow the chans or kiwi isn't "vewwy vewwy sowwy".

They just get their jollies in other ways now. It's known as is that Zoe Quinn was a helldump poster, for example.

At least we have the balls to admit that we like laughing at dumb and stupid shit.


Anyone else have any thoughts along those lines?
There are those that believe /pol/ to be sarcasm and irony, and there are those that don't. I am one who does not, fanaticism is an understated expression today and there will be those who want and need to think socially in those terms. They will find outlets to explore those ideas and emotions.

What I heard during and throughout the Greater Game of the Gate was Leftists apologizing on the Ess-Jay-Double-U side about adding to the Tee-Yox-Ick Kul-tur. I was angry at the sell-outs, but I also learned that the denial that /pol/ was perfectly serious about Jews and cultural decadence was believed by so many. It really was idiots claiming to be idiots accidentally drawing in idiots, and all that. These people thought they were ironic, and what they found was that a number of people thought the whole thing was serious business. They were distraught to say the least.

However, you are right, there was something about ironically acting out National Socialism and its hatred of Jews which indulged certain spiteful mutants. There are people whose hatred, born very early in their life around some idea of inferiority, caused them to absolutely love being the scary internet nazis. Now they back different sides, although the actual National Socialists had a term called "Rindersteak Nazi" for those like these ex-/pol/ in the Sturmabteilung (Brownshirts, SA) ranks who were Communists and Social Democrats and that a whopping 70% of the 1933 to 1934 recruitment of storm troops were these sort of "brown outside and red within" nazis. There was a whole political discussion in early NSDAP thought, which I think is very relevant today, where it was thought to be easier to recruit a communist rather than a liberal because a communist was more willing to admit the current political order was unfixable whereas the liberal was not.

The truth is that any political faction that believes that the current World Order today is fucked up and unworkable will see their ranks and fans shift widely between the other groups that also think that the current World Order today is fucked up and unworkable. People don't give a shit how the world works in such details, they just need to feel that they can succeed in getting their house/spouse working within the reigning system. Its biological, and liberal democracy is fucking the dog thinking it can just not let huge numbers of people find love & success, and breed.

Today huge numbers of people left /pol/ to "get their jollies in other ways" as you correctly put it. But the scary truth is that they would just as easily switch back if the right had a real fanatical leader. They have no sense-of-self and will morally/politically bend more wildly than you think, or fear. They will adopt whatever mindset allows them to tolerate themselves and their lives better than the other mindsets will, from moment to moment without any sense of shame.
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I think the simplest explanation is that they’re easily influenced autists who parrot the views of whatever internet circle accepts them at the time
That's basically the mentally we have here in the Thunderdome, all the same NPC talking points between Nationalists and fundies, so I guess you're right.

And while we're on the topic, that's basically the hivemind mentality of redditors, go to any subreddit and they'll all parrot the same talking points between each other.
 
I don't think anyone really hates 4chan or 8chan. Anonymous image boards have a lot of value and they are better than traditional message boards in most ways, 4chan memes are fun, etc. The elephant in the room is /pol/. And the other thing that OP overlooks is the SJW/communist to nazi/stormfag pipeline works in the opposite way. Some of the internet Nazis admit to being past Bernie supports that were despondent about him losing or even past Obama voters.

And imo that even goes to the origin of this shit with people changing political affiliations like chameleons. People were despondent about Ron Paul losing and then loser extremists who invaded the board took advantage of that and radicalized a lot of the people there into retards. The difference between a libertarian and a national socialist is like night and day, but that's what happened to /pol/. It got even worse after GamerGate, which tried really hard to be moderate, went no where, and then after Trump lost his re-election, we had one of this assholes shooting up old people in a grocery store.

I don't think anyone would have a problem with natsoc shit if it was really a joke or a meme. It's not, these people are serious, and they would fine turning the United States into a literal burning husk. They've gotten increasingly more annoying that now that they started attacking white culture like Christianity suggesting you're only a good white person if you follow their stupid LARPs instead of what your white grandparents believed. If these people stopped trying to insert themselves into political conversations, attacking people like Trump over jew autism, etc. there wouldn't be as much discord. Anyone who thinks ideas like acceleration would be good for America are losers with no loved ones or family who have nothing to lose, and they expect people that do to want to burn the constitution and make the US into a hell hole even though their children would suffer over it.

So yeah, they're about as bad as SJWs, that's why the communist link with them shows up sometimes, same mindset. They believe in controlling people like animals instead of individuality and liberty. It would be nice if like political sanity could return to some of these people but in the meantime they are just annoying and can't shut up about Hitler, jews, etc. even in topics that have nothing to do with them. I don't really need to read a discussion about what your favorite ice cream is and then have a discussion break out about how great Himmler was.

Some of these people just need to get a life and remind me of the the Sonic Underground guy, who dresses up in cardboard costumes, who literally only cares about Sonic Underground and nothing else. If you don't have opinions that don't involve jews or Hitler, you're a fucking crank period.
 
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To be honest, the more I have used the farms, the more I've become to absolutely hate the majority of the users here. While I generally despise the modern-day leftists and the hell they try to bring upon Earth, using farms has made me to hate conservatives, fascists and other sub-human swine dwelling in this pit of mental sewage even more.

It's remarkable; although I've always been more or less politically non-aligned to neither left nor right, the years I've tortured myself with the mental diarrhea spewing forth from the brains of those who inhabit this affront to all that is good, have in the end made me to see that even the other option, that of insane and retarded wannabe-communists to be just slightly better. If freedom of speech means this, then freedom of speech has exactly the same value as shit.

Maybe there's just a lot of speech that you have difficulty hearing. And maybe you've never really experienced lack of freedom of speech, because hearing all the shit opinions is a genuine and massive improvement over only ever hearing the one sanctioned opinion repeated (and having to regurgitate yourself as well).
 
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Maybe there's just a lot of speech that you have difficulty hearing. And maybe you've never really experienced lack of freedom of speech, because hearing all the shit opinions is a genuine and massive improvement over only ever hearing the one sanctioned opinion repeated (and having to regurgitate yourself as well).
Lol he thinks Kiwifarms doesn't also ban over dissenting opinions
 
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