Former pronoun “respecters” what was the moment that caused you to break - What was the moment you realized that cutting your dick off was, in fact, a mental illness

[Powerhouse of the Cell]

I was a supporter of the trans community when they were not as outspoken and big as they are now. Like all other people, I thought it was a harmless thing that only people who were genuinely dysphoric went through.

That was until I came across the story of Walt Heyer who was one of the earliest transitioners who in the early 1940s was made to wear dresses by his grandmother and eventually ended up transitioning as a woman for 8 years but ended up regretting it and detransitioning back.
After that, I saw more and more stories of others regretting their transitioning and speaking out against gender ideology.
Hearing all their stories about mutiliation and their voices permemantly changed my views.

And with the Keffals situation that happened two years ago and the recent Chrs Tyson situation.

I'm pretty much fully against this gender monstrosity.

 

[Bloo]

I have started only referring to trans people by their names now outside of this forum. I just can’t be bothered with the arguments and don’t want to be banned from Facebook/Discord groups I’m in. It can be difficult, sometimes I’ll throw a they/them in there and no one has said anything yet. It’s so stupid.

 

[TruffleSpark]

I have started only referring to trans people by their names now outside of this forum. I just can’t be bothered with the arguments and don’t want to be banned from Facebook/Discord groups I’m in. It can be difficult, sometimes I’ll throw a they/them in there and no one has said anything yet. It’s so stupid.

It always comes back to the same idiotic 2 + 2 = 5 level logic of "X is a person who says they are X". The attack helicopter joke is over a decade old and it demolishes this logic perfectly. What else is there even to say to someone who doesn't get that?

 

[Rich Evans Simp]

I saw a tv news special or documentary about “trans kids” when I was a young adult. I was horrified - not that there were trans kids, but because I empathized with what a waking nightmare it would be to have a child in distress from “being born in the wrong body”. How awful it would be if I, or someone I cared about, genuinely was a person of the opposite sex on the inside, and trying to navigate a horrible Kafkaesque world when everyone else insisted that you were a boy when you were really a girl.

Then I had a kid and realized how they question everything and how vulnerable they are to their parents’ suggestions and emotions. They know just from your face if you approve or agree or are uncomfortable. It would have been so easy to run with a trans child when they are around 3 and start to navigate what it means to exist, why someone is a mommy, why someone is a child, why there are boys and girls.

 

[Sneak 'n' Snore]

I remember attack helicopter jokes from the mid to late 2010s and at the time didn't even properly understand what they were mocking and who was supposed to be offended by it.
The entire trans stuff and all gender nonsense related bullshit is something I've only understood a few years ago. And I was confused and weirded out by it but I used to have a "live and let live" attitude for it.
Until sometime this year I relalized that I lost all patience and sympathy for it. I think its barely been a year ago where I made a post on another thread on here saying I think some troons are innocent and just need help and this is not a mindset I still have.
After everything that routinely comes out about these people despite how hard the media is suppressing anything that makes them look bad, I just assume its all selfish, rotten, pornsick deviants.
And the big kicker is that I'm not allowed to feel this way or be uncomfortable around them. I think this realization killed my sympathy for good, I just can't pinpoint when I had it exactly.

 

[I Just Want To Read]

I was fully indoctrinated into the cult-like leftist mindset. Partially from school, partially from the internet. I was constantly policing my own thoughts and feelings and proselytizing others. Full-on deranged mindset, believing JK Rowling was funding trans genocide.

A friend of mine declared that he was a trans woman. It really came out of nowhere. My friend has never been even slightly effeminate or even had such hobbies. My friend abandoned all hobbies, actually, past few years, and just seemed to be scrolling TikTok all day. But very well, I respected her pronouns. She started doing things to appear "womanly" such as piercing her ears, wearing crop tops, and having pedicures. She started talking about how she looked forward to having 'boobies'. She started talking about her fetish for femboys. Even as he- Oh fuck, I thought of him as a he. I mean her. The absolutely deranged behavior when Hogwarts Legacy was released made me raise an eyebrow, even though I was still convinced JK Rowling was a nazi.
One day I saw someone refer to what Dylan Mulvaney was doing as "woman-face". Then it hit me that this was exactly what my friend was doing. He was doing blackface for women.

It's only been a year since. I've stopped correcting my thoughts. I've realized that all the people who were "trans but just really couldn't afford to attempt to pass because of their economic situation" and "trans but still dressing as a stereotype of their birth sex because gender isn't decided by clothes" and "trans and looking completely cis but STILL VALID" were really just grifters. And my friend isn't a poor woman suffering from being assigned male at birth, he's a pornsick man. Holy shit. I believed all this pro-trans nonsense for 10 years.

Bought the Harry Potter books by the way. They were good.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I saw a tv news special or documentary about “trans kids” when I was a young adult. I was horrified - not that there were trans kids, but because I empathized with what a waking nightmare it would be to have a child in distress from “being born in the wrong body”. How awful it would be if I, or someone I cared about, genuinely was a person of the opposite sex on the inside, and trying to navigate a horrible Kafkaesque world when everyone else insisted that you were a boy when you were really a girl.

Then I had a kid and realized how they question everything and how vulnerable they are to their parents’ suggestions and emotions. They know just from your face if you approve or agree or are uncomfortable. It would have been so easy to run with a trans child when they are around 3 and start to navigate what it means to exist, why someone is a mommy, why someone is a child, why there are boys and girls.

Don't see much tranny media here, but we did have a 45 min documentary on a poor normal boy who was groomed into troondom by a.. normal cishet woman? Like some kind of "oil baron on white twitch streamer" transformation fic. He'd then read some of the original troon prose and kill himself cause "Oh, there's no happy end to this life".

A manner of 2 years, this sub-18 year old killed himself cause he envisioned himself a tranny and how it'd lead to his demise. Which it did. Worst part was his mother saying "had he told us we'd be supportive".

 

[Mad Hunter]

1. When they think they deserve a place in sports competing against cis people of the gender they decided to be. Those original hormones will never 100 percent go away, no matter how many times you inject yourself with the hormones of the opposite sex.


2. When they start drawing a conventionally attractive female and adding more focus on the female parts then start slapping the he/him pronouns on her. Or vice versa.


3. When they extend this shit to kids. Kids are impressionable and are still finding their way around. Transitioning, especially with hormones, is a big decision.


4. When they coin certain fetish terms as slurs. I swear I've seen trannies call "futa" nd "femboy" slurs. Just let the gooners coom to their fetish as long as everyone is of age and consenting in the content, it's not fucked up shit like scat or gore (I'm really gonna start questioning people if they're into gore, especially, despite the "line between fiction and reality"), and the gooners aren't making an ass of themselves online the way many of these trannies do.


5. When they believe having both male and female pronouns is a thing. Or having "they/them" pronouns should exist. There's a limit to the madness.

 

[Not 6 Foot]

I'm still willing to respect someone who fully transitions, doesn't make it their main personality trait, and just wants to be left alone and treated like a normal human being.

My breaking point, for everyone else, however, was a mix of my first experience with a close friend transitioning and everyone but them getting pissed when I got his pronouns wrong (he was a man for 10 years, to me, now he's supposed to be a woman, we spoke every day, leave me the fuck alone, etc etc) and the amount of them that suddenly showed up and made zero effort to look like what they were supposed to be transitioning to.
Oh, also the amount of them that are permanently in the process of transition which defeats the entire purpose of it.

 

[SomeSpook]

About two years ago, I was a very lonely person and had partially drank the leftist kool aid. I saw these people as disenfranchised souls who had wanted to be equal to everyone else. But... as time progressed I would learn the hard way that these people do not want to be equal to anyone or anything. They want to be seen as superior to everyone else around them, and the very ground they walk upon be worshipped, despite being pornography addicted scum. Societal norms that have been established for centuries be damned if it means that ME a disgusting tranny with a sepsis infected hole between their legs gets to feel "gender euphoric" for being addressed as a woman. Anyone who addresses these "people" as the opposite sex, in my eyes or mind, is worthless to me. Because they willingly let themselves be walked on.

 

[Pian01]

After I met one in real life for the first time realized how mentally ill these people are and after the giggly goon clown stuff came out it made me fully “transphobic” at first I felt bad for trans people but the giggly goon clown stuff made me realize how predatory those people are

 

[EVABOPNOTE]

Well, Being part of the LGBT community (Bisexual),I was very fond of many transgender people. I want to believe many trans people are ordinary and good people like me. I just don't like their community anymore because of the narcissism and egotism many of them have. I also was a member of R/LGBT subreddit and they were basically very unfriendly to me because of me asking if anyone had centrist views. I like to think many LGBT individuals are nice. But honestly, I don't really want to have anything to do with the community or pride.

 

[Squishie PP]

I fell down a bunch of unrelated rabbit holes, and doing so allowed me to see the trans phenomenon for what it truly was. Won't go into too much detail in order to maintain anonymity.

Well, Being part of the LGBT community (Bisexual),I was very fond of many transgender people. I want to believe many trans people are ordinary and good people like me.

Gotta be careful of your categories. There are a lot of GNC people out there who don't display the same narcissism, psychopathy, and general insanity that a lot of trannies do. Many of them have been sucked into the trans movement without considering all the implications. You can read about it here: https://kiwifarms.st/threads/detransitioner-desister-stories.88512/

 

[ToroidalBoat]

the cult-like leftist mindset

Seems SJWs are so cult-y that they see non-SJWs as cult-y.

There is this possibly (in)famous video where someone asks some guy with freakish clown makeup and green hair what he thinks is weird about conservatives. IIRC, he claimed that conservatives have this "cultish vibe" and "refuse to learn beyond their worldview" -- if that isn't a clear textbook example of projection then I don't know what is.

 

[fitty tucker]

Met a friend who (was so obviously a male) "transitioning" and "struggling with it." Fine, whatever. Thought it was weird he didn't bother to shave his obvious beard or change his clothes or do anything else to try to appear even a little feminine, but whatever.

Six years later. SIX YEARS. And he still hasn't "figured things out." Still presents the exact same, still wants to be called a woman, still wants to bitch about gender dysphoria (idk maybe literally try, like even a little?). I told him earlier this year I didn't want to continue to friendship. It's like he thinks it's everyone's job but his own to VaLiDaTe his existence.