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I like the sass the Polish commentators give towards Russell.
While commenting on Perez overtaking Leclerc:
A: Here once again this very aware, cool attack by Sergio Perez
B: He might've seen that Leclerc is recharging, perhaps he took advantage of that moment
A: And since he isn't George Russell he was able to use that moment and not space out

They're pretty sassy in general. After seeing Alonso control that massive snap:
A: I wonder if Stroll would be able to keep it together like that.
B: (as sarcastically but also as dryly as possible) I'm sure he would.
 
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I agree with Crofty's opinion that points should be spread throughout the field, given that, while everyone is technically in the same race, the lower ranking teams have their own races and rivalries that we are only really aware of when they are lapped by the front runners. A more comprehensive spread of points would highlight these skirmishes.
 
I donm't know if that's the best of ideas as points should mean something. Then again with most of the time you have at least 15 cars finishing you might want to reward the faster ones.
 
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I mean points functionally are awarded right to the bottom. If two drivers finish on 0 points then they look at 11th place finishes then 12th and so on. So effectively it does count, we just don't get a tracker for it. So maybe points all the way down would be good. As long as there is a big jump from 11th to 10th to reward that achievement.

It was also reward finishing over just retiring the car because you're so far back.
 
I like the sass the Polish commentators give towards Russell.
While commenting on Perez overtaking Leclerc:
A: Here once again this very aware, cool attack by Sergio Perez
B: He might've seen that Leclerc is recharging, perhaps he took advantage of that moment
A: And since he isn't George Russell he was able to use that moment and not space out

They're pretty sassy in general. After seeing Alonso control that massive snap:
A: I wonder if Stroll would be able to keep it together like that.
B: (as sarcastically but also as dryly as possible) I'm sure he would.
Crap. I got to learn Polish now...
 
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Made this after today's circumstances

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Imagine some of the crazy repairs we'd see in a all finishers get points race.

Rear wing fucked? Well the minutes to fix that is worth it. Bust suspension? Well 15 minutes is worth the points right. Gearbox fucked on lap 1? Well you're finishing 50 laps down but still, points.

It's be interesting to see mechanics race against the clock to get them out. Though you would need to set a sensible minimum number of laps completed or maximum number of laps down limit to prevent a car coming in on lap 1 then going out on the final lap to get points with near zero wear and tear on the car.
 
Imagine some of the crazy repairs we'd see in a all finishers get points race.

Rear wing fucked? Well the minutes to fix that is worth it. Bust suspension? Well 15 minutes is worth the points right. Gearbox fucked on lap 1? Well you're finishing 50 laps down but still, points.

It's be interesting to see mechanics race against the clock to get them out. Though you would need to set a sensible minimum number of laps completed or maximum number of laps down limit to prevent a car coming in on lap 1 then going out on the final lap to get points with near zero wear and tear on the car.

if youre gonna let em spend half a hour in the pit and return during the race cause they have a chance at one point you might as well get rid of Parc Ferme and let the shitters who gotta choose between qauli setups and race day setups tweak their shit. That would provide the backmarkers a better chance at points that giving out 1 meaningless point for finishing. We already have a system that works pretty well, I get it dosent work for a casual fan but does the casual fan actually give a fuck about whose finishing in the bottom 10? Unless hamilton or Danny is down their the causals don't give a shit.

There's better things they could be doing to improve the racing for casual fans. Like making ltphpe cars smaller.
 
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if youre gonna let em spend half a hour in the pit and return during the race cause they have a chance at one point you might as well get rid of Parc Ferme and let the shitters who gotta choose between qauli setups and race day setups tweak their shit. That would provide the backmarkers a better chance at points that giving out 1 meaningless point for finishing. We already have a system that works pretty well, I get it dosent work for a casual fan but does the casual fan actually give a fuck about whose finishing in the bottom 10? Unless hamilton or Danny is down their the causals don't give a shit.

There's better things they could be doing to improve the racing for casual fans. Like making ltphpe cars smaller.


Could easily avoid that by mandating that if your car is stationary in the pits for a certain amount of time, or moved into the garage, it's classified as retired.
 
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Could easily avoid that by mandating that if your car is stationary in the pits for a certain amount of time, or moved into the garage, it's classified as retired.
In NASCAR, the five (sometimes six, depending) crewmen allowed over the wall get six minutes to try to literally beat the car back into racing shape. If it's stopped for longer you're out. A couple years ago they sent out one of the Alpha Tauris (I think it was Yuki?) with what was by all rights a busted rear wing repaired with duct tape. Give em the chance.

I don't see why not to give a couple more points paying spots, with reliability (mostly) being better, you're relying on one of the top teams to fuck up. Picking names out of the hat for a hypothetical, if you're Toro Rosso Alpha Tauri, VCARB and consistently finishing 11th or 12th you're going to be fucked by the one freak weekend where Stroll crashes into half the field and somehow Bottas finished P5. Doesn't matter that you were consistently better than them, they got the points.

You might say that that's tough shit, thems the rules and you need to capitalize on those opportunities when they come up. But I think the championship order should reflect how the teams preformed over the season, not if they got lucky.
 
Could easily avoid that by mandating that if your car is stationary in the pits for a certain amount of time, or moved into the garage, it's classified as retired.
F1 already has rules for classification. If you don't manage a certain % of the laps the driver falls under the "not classified" category. Last examples of those would be the Forti cars way back in 1995. Finished the race but so many laps down they were not classified (race result states "finished but not classified"). And let's say a 30 minute pitstop would be like 10 laps lost at the chinese GP.
 
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Uh-oh.

Design chief Newey set to leave Red Bull​

Andrew Benson F1 Correspondent

Red Bull design chief Adrian Newey is to leave the team in the wake of the controversy involving allegations about team principal Christian Horner.

Newey, regarded as the greatest Formula 1 designer in history, has told Red Bull he wants to move on, BBC Sport has learned.

The 65-year-old has been unsettled by the situation at Red Bull since Horner was accused of sexual harassment and coercive, abusive behaviour by a female employee, which Horner denies.

Red Bull and Newey did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The British design chief has been strongly linked with Ferrari and is known to have been made an offer by Aston Martin, but he is likely to be of interest to all leading teams now his availability is known.

His desire to leave Red Bull was first reported by Germany’s Auto Motor und Sport, but the information has been independently verified by BBC Sport with high-level sources close to Red Bull and Newey.

They confirmed that his desire to leave stems from his unhappiness over the situation involving Horner, which has led to a multi-faceted power struggle at Red Bull.

The team cleared Horner of wrongdoing after an internal investigation. The complainant, who has since been suspended, has appealed against the decision.

Horner and Red Bull motorsport adviser Helmut Marko are in dispute, as are the Thai main shareholder Chalerm Yoovidhya, who backed Horner, and Red Bull Gmbh in Austria, who had initially wanted to remove him from his position.

Newey has been at Red Bull since 2005 and has overseen two dominant eras with the team, from 2010-14 when they won four consecutive drivers’ and constructors’ titles with Sebastian Vettel, and the current era with Max Verstappen.

Last year, Verstappen and Red Bull produced the most dominant season in F1 history, the Dutchman winning 19 of the 22 races and the team all but one. They look on course for a similar performance after winning four of the first five races this season.

Newey has previously had multiple championship-winning success at both Williams and McLaren.

As Red Bull’s chief technical officer, Newey is no longer working full time on F1 - he is also involved with the company’s other projects, such as the forthcoming RB17 supercar.

And Horner has on occasion emphasised the strengths of the team under Newey, led by technical director Pierre Wache.

But the design chief remains the brilliant mind responsible for the concept of the team’s successful cars and his departure will represent a seismic blow for the team.

It may also further unsettle Verstappen, who is known to have his own misgivings about the internal situation at the team.

Verstappen, who is under contract to the end of 2028, has been asked on a number of occasions to offer his full backing to Horner and has always given equivocal answers.
But he has repeatedly emphasised his desire to keep the senior team at Red Bull in place, and said at the Chinese Grand Prix last weekend: “I signed a long deal with team.

The only thing I said from the beginning is we want to have a peaceful environment, lately we have been talking about the car. I am happy about that, I am happy with the team and there has never been a reason to leave.”

Verstappen is contractually able to leave if Marko loses his position - and the driver was instrumental in keeping the Austrian in place when it emerged at the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix in March that his position was under threat.

He is not believed to have the same freedom in the event of Newey leaving, but he would regard the loss of such a totemic and influential figure as a major loss.
Mercedes are openly courting Verstappen and hope to lure him away for 2025 or 2026.

More to follow.
 
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Please Mr Newey if you read this, don't go to Ferrari and get Hamilton another shot at a drivers title. Sign with Aston Martin, British pride and all that piss, get Alonso a third title and I'd be forever grateful. Or go all balls to the walls and join the Audi program. Newey is a F1 wizard, so I'm pretty sure that wherever he goes, success will follow. So don't join Ferrari as long Hamilton is there, thank you.
 
Newey is just one guy and I doubt he does day-to-day engineering work anymore. I’m not sure his departure would have as big of an effect as the media thinks it would.
 
Newey's experience and leadership is part of the puzzle for a title winning team yes but, he doesn't produce miracles. Good aero and suspension can't save a bad PU or a mediocre driver. Speaking of mediocre drivers (not you Sainz), my money is on Newey going to Ferrari and i'm ready to be supprised but i'm not getting my hopes up. If you ask me, part of Newey's offer is work on a Ferrari hypercar with his name on it, that kind of legacy building project for a brand like Ferrari cements your status as legend. This would be the dream for any automotive engineer so good on him.
 
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