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Monaco should stay on the calendar, the salt is immense

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Anyway might as well go watch the 500, isn't like I've done anything else but watch Motorsports today.
 
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Coccxys said:
Oh look more Hamilton fans that don't understand the sport. Funny how that keeps happening.
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And they'll be gone the moment lewlew's not in there.


There was a rando commenter somewhere I saw the other week saying what the big problem with NASCAR at its core is that when it had its heyday they gained driver fans, not racing fans, and it's suffered for it ever since.

F1's a little different in that it's three tiered. Racing fan, team fan, and then drivers, usually in that order. But everything from driver logos (thanks Nico, and to some extent the Senna cult) to Lewis have challenged this.
 
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New Fag said:
Monaco should stay on the calendar, the salt is immense

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Anyway might as well go watch the 500, isn't like I've done anything else but watch Motorsports today.
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They're acting like Hamilton and Alonso weren't 20 seconds behind everyone else, the fucking mongoloids. Even if Hamilton overtook, it's one damn position.
 
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Mikoyan said:
There was a rando commenter somewhere I saw the other week saying what the big problem with NASCAR at its core is that when it had its heyday they gained driver fans, not racing fans, and it's suffered for it ever since.
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That's one of the reasons they didn't want to let drivers have a fixed number "to build their brand" because it's not about the drivers it's about the sport. Take a guess at which prick whined the loudest about not being able to plaster 44 over every piece of China sweatshop merch going. That plus "oh you can use your number instead of 1" for the champion was a clear indication driver brand was being placed above the sport's.
 
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Didn't realize the standings were so close. Max 125, Lec 116, Checo 110. Russel and Sainz are distant 4th and 5th at 84-83.

Are were gonna be seeing more team orders from here? Also:

>Be Ferrari
>Start season with strong 1-2
>Pole on most races
>The PrancingHorseTM is back
>Rival DNFs on 2 races
>Massive initial points lead in both driver and constructor
>Get caught out in several races
>Screw up the pit stops
>Now 2nd place

As they say: amateurs talk tactics, professionals study logistics. Not sure that applies, but it feels right for this one.
 
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Great win for Checo, great salt from Hamilton dickriders. I don't remember if I put it to paper here but I remember predicting that Ferrari would have a solid car but the clowns on the pitwall would hold them back. That "Box, no wait stay out stay out" call for Leclerc was a shitshow.

Re car numbers:
In NASCAR the numbers are assigned to the car not the driver. People associate the Number 3 with Dale Sr, or the 24 with Jeff Gordon but that's just because they drove it for years. If a driver changes teams the number does not follow them. Same thing with IndyCar.
Mikoyan said:
There was a rando commenter somewhere I saw the other week saying what the big problem with NASCAR at its core is that when it had its heyday they gained driver fans, not racing fans, and it's suffered for it ever since.
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I would amend this by saying that they suffered not because they gained driver fans, but because they couldn't bring in drivers that were charismatic enough to replace the old guard as they left. NASCAR at its core is a culture of Good Ol Boys, throwing your helmet at the guy who wrecked you out or a fistfight in the pits is what keeps things fun.

Edit: does anyone have a good restream of the Indy 500? the NBC stream is garbage going to "WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK" and missing Veekay bringing out the caution entirely.
 
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Things Better Forgotten said:
I would amend this by saying that they suffered not because they gained driver fans, but because they couldn't bring in drivers that were charismatic enough to replace the old guard as they left. NASCAR at its core is a culture of Good Ol Boys, throwing your helmet at the guy who wrecked you out or a fistfight in the pits is what keeps things fun.
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It's a bloody good job we got the likes of Norris, Russell, Leclerc, Albon etc through into F1 for that. No way the likes of Palmer, Chilton, Vandoorne and all the other meh drivers coming through GP2 in that era would have been able to carry F1. What the fuck even happened during that era for all that dreck to make it into F1?

Incidentally the aforementioned Chilton was another example of British commentators dick riding a British driver "Yeah I know he got lapped by his team mate and was a good 5 seconds off the pace but look at his finishing record", yeah it's easy to finish when you drive around 10% off the pace and the only overtakes you ever see are getting out of the way for blue flags. They kept trying to convince us Palmer was way better than he was too.
 
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I get the feeling we are somehow repeating the F1 2005 season all over. The former dominant team (Mercedes) is falling down the order due to new regulations while we have a duel between Redubll (Renault) and Ferrari (Mclaren). So far with the advantage going to RedBull though who knows if they can't compete in the last races due to "No money) that might be interesting. Of course I highly doubt this will really happen but it would be hilarious.
 
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Things Better Forgotten said:
Edit: does anyone have a good restream of the Indy 500? the NBC stream is garbage going to "WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK" and missing Veekay bringing out the caution entirely.
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I'm watching a sky sports re-stream on cricfree.live/sky-sports-action. They keep the action on when it goes to an add break but they switch to a uk commentary team till the adds are over.
 
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