Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

[Balr0g]

Absolutely horrific day for Ferrari, they've got to get those engine problems sorted out or that championship is gone. Zhou had a great day ruined by that engine too.

I think Danny is just kinda checked out at this point. You could hear it with both McLaren teammates being passive-aggressive with each other at different times in the race. Sad to say it but I think he is probably gone after this season.

Also lol @ Hambone getting on the radio to whine about his back. You know if it was bad for him, George's lanky frame was getting absolutely destroyed in there and he wasn't complaining on the radio.

Imho the championship is gone. Leclerc will collect more and more penalties. He already is down to his lat engine after this disaster. This is exactly like 2005 when Kimi was often faster but had to take on the entire field due to technical issues on Saturday. Ferrari may have an issue with very hot temperatures as it was the hottest race today (plus the altitude of Azerbaijan adds more woes) Perhaps it is simply an issue of "not enough cooling" or "falsly claculated cooling". If so then this can be easily fixed. Maybe Ferrari will make a request to overhaul their engines in the name of reliability as this is possible until September this year.

for the race itself. this year was a very boring Baku Grand Prix. no safety car no red flag. Let's see next weekend when they drive in Canada. I expect more complains about bouncing

 

[Things Better Forgotten]

Toto just called his own car a shitbox on the team radio to suck Hamiltons dick jesus christ

 

[Coccxys]

(plus the altitude of Azerbaijan adds more woes)

Azerbaijan is actually really good for altitude it being the lowest GP at 28 meters  below sea level. It's the likes of Mexico and Brazil that are going to fuck them really hard for altitude.

For fuck sake, Crofty starts talking about Max's record while they do the trophies and PDR instantly switches to talking about Hambone's record when he isn't on the podium.

 

[Pee Cola]

For fuck sake, Crofty starts talking about Max's record while they do the trophies and PDR instantly switches to talking about Hambone's record when he isn't on the podium.

TBH I'm surprised it wasn't the other way round. Crofty's usually at the head of the queue where fellating Hambone is concerned.

Meanwhile Checo getting booted from RP/AM in 2020 was the best thing that ever happened to him. Stoked to see him getting yet another podium, though I'd be even happier if he won.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I messed up and though the race would start at 3pm local time, instead it started 1pm, I realized this around 2pm, so I missed everything prior to lap 36

Turns out Ferrari is as capable as ever to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. I wonder if these issues are due to the engine being badly designed or if this originates from porpoising. I would not be surprised if that bouncing shook stuff loose over time.

Either way, at least it's 6th place for Vettel, Russel once more outperformed Lewlew, even though Merc once more undeservedly got a podium due to their competition screwing up big time.

I enjoy Crofty and PDR going "oh he needs to find reverse, is the engine still running", like that was an obvious driver retiring the car move dipshits.

As I said, their input when commenting on an incident oftentimes is so blatantly and obviously wrong that even I as a mere TV audience member know better.

Well FIAT own ferrari and that stands for fix it again tomorrow.

In Germany, we say FIAT stands for "Fehler in allen Teilen" -> Flaws in every part. Also "Für Italien ausreichende Technik" -> Technology adequate for Italy.

Max discussing how the speed with will cool the tyres too much vs preserving them.

Hamilton constantly asking his engineer what the rules of the sport even are.

Remember when a year or so ago in Monaco, an engineer told Hamilton to watch out for something in the Nouvelle Chicane, and he snapped back that he didn't know where that is and that the engineer should tell him the number of the corner instead?

Romanesridge Farms remembers.

If hambone is getting injured that's a Mercedes problem not a rules problem. Tell Mercedes to sort it or risk a ban rather than coming up with some rule for all because most have sorted it.

I missed that, was he whining about back pain due to the bouncing? If so, he should just tape a couple of cushions on his back.

 

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hope Ferrari never wins another race again. Enzo must be rolling on his grave

 

[Bill Elliot]

I missed that, was he whining about back pain due to the bouncing? If so, he should just tape a couple of cushions on his back.

I didn't hear anything over the radio but I think he was complaining pre race, and to be fair, it does look shitty. But tough shit, fix your car

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I didn't hear anything over the radio but I think he was complaining pre race, and to be fair, it does look shitty. But tough shit, fix your car

With the kind of money he earns, being a bit uncomfortable while doing so is really a non-issue.

 

[Pee Cola]

With the kind of money he earns, being a bit uncomfortable while doing so is really a non-issue.

Maybe Hambone would be more comfortable if he didn't have all that metal jiggling about whilst on the track.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

You know, bit of a sidenote here, but has anyone here checked the driver standings?
Latifi is officially ranked below Hülkenberg, who only participated in 2 races.

 

[JoseRaulChupacabra]

Last time around, Lec called Monaco a "freaking disaster." He ain't see nothing yet.

I would not be surprised if that bouncing shook stuff loose over time.

I heard somewhere that while both the Merc and the Ferrari are rough riders, they do so differently. Ferrari bounces higher but less frequently while the Merc bounces lower but more frequently.

 

[Coccxys]

I missed that, was he whining about back pain due to the bouncing? If so, he should just tape a couple of cushions on his back.

Yes, he said it over the radio.

The problem is because of the merc and others bouncing and drivers complaining the FIA is looking at a rules change to prevent it. Floated ideas inclue a minimum ride hight which will harm the constructors that got it right or going to linked suspension again which is what gave merc such a ridiculous advantage in 2014-2021. I wouldn't be surprised if the "fix" to the issues makes the mercs a lot more competitive all of a sudden.

 

[New Fag]

Yes, he said it over the radio.

The problem is because of the merc and others bouncing and drivers complaining the FIA is looking at a rules change to prevent it. Floated ideas inclue a minimum ride hight which will harm the constructors that got it right or going to linked suspension again which is what gave merc such a ridiculous advantage in 2014-2021. I wouldn't be surprised if the "fix" to the issues makes the mercs a lot more competitive all of a sudden.

The FIA should grow some balls and say "We're putting some G senors on your car, we deem XGs of vertical force during porpoising safe. Any more and you get black flagged. k thnx bye."

Of course most teams will throw their toys out the pram cause it means their rivals who have a better designed car might gain an advantage. Which also means it's a great decision.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Yes, he said it over the radio.

The problem is because of the merc and others bouncing and drivers complaining the FIA is looking at a rules change to prevent it. Floated ideas inclue a minimum ride hight which will harm the constructors that got it right or going to linked suspension again which is what gave merc such a ridiculous advantage in 2014-2021. I wouldn't be surprised if the "fix" to the issues makes the mercs a lot more competitive all of a sudden.

If FIA adapts the rules and Merc becomes top-team again, I'll give up on the sport until every motherfucker in FIA has died of exploding testicle cancer.

What's the point when the governing body of the sport creates rules tailor made to suit one team, even if said team has had a decade of dominance. If Mercedes isn't reeled in soon, the sport is pretty much dead anyway. Who wants to watch a race series where the same team wins for such a long time.

 

[Coccxys]

That Hamilton cope though





No he's not sacrificing himself for the engineers, he's not getting bad strategy calls, he's not being unlucky. He's just slower than Russell and doesn't know how to set up his car or help to develop it. He's not winning DOTD because of his amazing skills, he's winning it because of the reddit DTS braindeads that would vote him DOTD even if he retired on the warmup lap.

 

[JustStopDude]

It's interesting how consistent George Russell has been compared to Hamilton. I honestly expected Russell to struggle with the expectations of being on a bigger team. Like on Williams, he could do no wrong because he was driving a sled.

It's fucking hilarious to see the excuses for Hamilton. There are people out there that think Mercedes is sabotaging him. Frankly, I am surprised they didn't give team orders to George to just give up the podium to Hamilton to keep the diva happy.

 

[Coccxys]

Frankly, I am surprised they didn't give team orders to George to just give up the podium to Hamilton to keep the diva happy.

He finished 25.7 seconds behind Russell so team orders would have been difficult. The sports news on the radio earlier said "Hamilton finished just behind his team mate in 4th" like yeah if you count a pit stop distance just behind.

 

[JustStopDude]

He finished 25.7 seconds behind Russell so team orders would have been difficult. The sports news on the radio earlier said "Hamilton finished just behind his team mate in 4th" like yeah if you count a pit stop distance just behind.

I know I was being a bit cheeky.

"George, we need you to park it"

 

[LiveFromNS]

Cue up the "Lewis is a superstar, phenomenal how he endured through the pain" stories. Will they ever admit that George is simply performing better than Lewis this year?

Mercedes plan reserve driver “solution” for Canada in case Hamilton cannot drive​

Posted on 12th June 2022, 15:37 | Written by Keith Collantine and Claire Cottingham

Mercedes will ensure they are prepared for the possibility Lewis Hamilton cannot participate during next week’s Canadian Grand Prix weekend.

Hamilton said he was in severe pain during today’s Azerbaijan Grand Prix due to his car’s porpoising and bottoming throughout the race. He called it “the most painful race I’ve experienced”.

Wolff said it was clear his driver’s condition was worse than just muscular pain. “I haven’t seen him and I haven’t spoken to him afterwards,” he said, “but you can see this is not muscular anymore. I mean, this goes properly into the spine and can have some consequences.”

Practice for the next race at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is due to begin in five days’ time. Wolff said the team will be ready for the possibility Hamilton or team mate George Russell cannot drive.

“I don’t think this is only Lewis’s issue,” he said. “He’s the one that is probably worst affected. But generally, it also affects George and many others.

“So the solution could be to have someone on reserve, which we anyway have at every race, to make sure that our cars run.”

Hamilton has not missed a race since he tested positive for Covid-19 ahead of the Sakhir Grand Prix in 2020. All teams are required to run junior drivers in at least two practice sessions during the course of the season. Mercedes could take advantage of the opportunity to do that in first practice, extending Hamilton’s recuperation time.

Wolff apologised to Hamilton over the radio after the race. “I know this is a bit of a shitbox to drive,” he said, “sorry for that.”

He admitted afterwards his driver was in “really bad” shape following the race. “We’ve just got to find a solution at this stage,” said Wolff. “He’s, I think, maybe the worst-affected from our drivers.

“But pretty much everyone, as far as I understood from the drivers, said that something needs to happen. But I couldn’t give you an explanation what that is.”

In Baku the problem of the cars porpoising – bouncing up and down at speed – was aggravated by them bottoming out – hitting the circuit – on the bumpy track. “They are very much linked together,” Wolff agreed. “We have seen tracks where we have zero porpoising and then we have bouncing and then some cars are bottoming.

“So it’s not really clear. It is clear [that] it’s all interlinked with the aerodynamic performance of the floor.”

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

That Hamilton cope though

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No he's not sacrificing himself for the engineers, he's not getting bad strategy calls, he's not being unlucky. He's just slower than Russell and doesn't know how to set up his car or help to develop it. He's not winning DOTD because of his amazing skills, he's winning it because of the reddit DTS braindeads that would vote him DOTD even if he retired on the warmup lap.

My sides. Literally no excuse is too stupid for these people.
In their perception, Hamilton is tirelessly working on the car setup, while Russel just hops into a perfectly tuned car, set up based on data by Hamilton. Hamilton is so great at this, he manages to test a setup during the race which Russel somehow then uses 72 hours before said race during the first free practice, I guess.

It must be literal timetravel, cause otherwise we would not have an explanation for Russel being better even during free practice.

It's interesting how consistent George Russell has been compared to Hamilton. I honestly expected Russell to struggle with the expectations of being on a bigger team. Like on Williams, he could do no wrong because he was driving a sled.

It's fucking hilarious to see the excuses for Hamilton. There are people out there that think Mercedes is sabotaging him. Frankly, I am surprised they didn't give team orders to George to just give up the podium to Hamilton to keep the diva happy.

I bet he was anxious before the season to see how he'd perform (after all, being the designated water-carrier for Lewis did put him at a disadvantage), but it turns out that it went so poorly for Lewis, that Russel's now very comfortably the #1 driver for Merc this season.
Russel could collect a DNF and Hamilton could win with fastest lap and Russel would still be 11 points in the lead over Hamilton.
Hamilton could end up 4th 3 races in a row with Russel DNF'ing and Russel would still be in the lead by 3 points.

If there was any pressure on Russel to perform well, it is gone now. If he keeps things up, he'll be a top 5 driver by the end of this season and miles ahead of his teammate. If anything, I think pressure will mount on Hamilton, especially when next season comes along the corner.
I'd laugh my ass off, if Merc had a strong car next season and still imploded cause both drivers squabble with each other.

He finished 25.7 seconds behind Russell so team orders would have been difficult. The sports news on the radio earlier said "Hamilton finished just behind his team mate in 4th" like yeah if you count a pit stop distance just behind.

No kidding, Hamilton finished his race about a minute after Verstappen, shit was surreal.