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Out of all the things Monostar shared with us, I think this is the only instance of something that remotely resembles "LGBT themes" in Red Mist:
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I don't think this character was introduced in the Chapter 1 PDF, so unless I missed something, this is all we have to go off of.
 
I'm sick to death of the narrative 0f black people overcoming racism by calling someone who doesn't like black people racist until they give in. He exported that model to attack Koreans, another minority, because they don't want to be around niggers. He has a racism hammer and everything is a nail. Totally black lack of creativity. What, people have to give you their daughters now or they're racist, fucking maniac? Dude is hideous inside and out.
One thing that i noticed about woke media in general, they never bother to actually portray prejudice in a realistic and grounded way, they just create a character that is nothing more than a strawman meant to represent a group that they don't like and sometimes they don't even show them doing anything bad you are just supossed to hate them because the author said so, Roger Tozer from dradnought is a texbook example of that.
well that was a shitshow. i also have a comic and am wondering if its a good idea to share some basic outlines of ,my story with you folks.

gonna keep tabs on this thread as a guide on how NOT to do things. lol
What is your comic about?
 
Out of all the things Monostar shared with us, I think this is the only instance of something that remotely resembles "LGBT themes" in Red Mist:
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I don't think this character was introduced in the Chapter 1 PDF, so unless I missed something, this is all we have to go off of.
I can't stand that "be gay, do crime" shit. Did it originate with Night in the Woods? Not surprising he added another sexy fetish to his sex object Asian female minors by making them also bisexual. Funny that that counts as any real representation.
One thing that i noticed about woke media in general, they never bother to actually portray prejudice in a realistic and grounded way, they just create a character that is nothing more than a strawman meant to represent a group that they don't like and sometimes they don't even show them doing anything bad you are just supossed to hate them because the author said so, Roger Tozer from dradnought is a texbook example of that.
I listened to a truecrime podcast on a roadtrip with my brother, and the host played audio of three black guys who murdered an 18yo woman after one raped her once in each orifice, then a second raped her. They'd gotten the other victims to swear they wouldn't call the cops, but the 18yo said fuck you I'll tell them everything. They discussed whether to kill her and how, and said to each other that that white girl is racist and will rat us out to the cops. They called a white woman racist for saying she'd tell police the truth that black men raped her. There's no helping that grudge mentality. A white woman is racist for testifying. An Asian father is racist for not opening his two minor daughter's legs for a black American. He's wearing racism colored glasses and describing what he thinks he sees.
 
Out of all the things Monostar shared with us, I think this is the only instance of something that remotely resembles "LGBT themes" in Red Mist:
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I don't think this character was introduced in the Chapter 1 PDF, so unless I missed something, this is all we have to go off of.
That bubblegum art style made me think the manga was going to devolve into a 4-panel slice of life comedy. The kind where characters often state "obvious" character traits of the people they interact with, i.e., "Byun Min is the best at sports", "That's our Elliot, the brave leader", and "No one eats more than Ara. She sure is an airhead" Moe Moe Moe!

Getting back to Red Mist, how exactly would LGBT themes mesh with a zombie apocalypse story? Those ideas don't really go together in the way it does for Watamote. If anything, a zombie apocalypse is the exact opposite kind of story that'd mesh with LGBT themes, since an apocalyptic scenario would drive society back into intolerance towards refusing to repopulate the species, since a high population of gays and trannies would further the human race towards extinction.
His tonality is all over the place. I feel that is not entirely his fault, though. The Japanese love to play with tone. Some artist are great at stretching the rubber band of tone back and forth but there is plenty of generic anime and manga that looks edgy but have the tummy rumbling type humor of a romcom. He was a limited pool of references it seems and as many have said, he should probably read more books out of his comfort genre zone.

I think the LGBTQ+ angle is more window dressing or at least a label on characters but none of it drives the stroy.

I don't think he understands how to manage tone or at least lacks the talent currently to justify his combinations. I previously posted a style comparison of Ara. It's a good idea when you are writing to pick a picture that represents the tone you want out of the your end product. He never gave a good image of the zombies except San Hyd, even that was lacking in tone. @Monostar Leatherknuckles, figure out the tone of your zombies first. Not the art style but tone. After that, maybe you can determine if your story should have asexual queer folks or not.

Three tones of zombie:
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What is your comic about?

Late reply. My main comic idea is Moner Man.

"The world was in a state of utopia. People lived carefree lives due to the age of omnipresent, convenient Robits.But not for long, for Robits started 'going rogue' and attack people constantly. Mr Franks, an apathetic bystander, is chosen by chance (?) to solve this crisis. His mission is simple: Protect the innocent, and deactivate the rogue Robits.

Easier said than done. Franks, by taking this immense responsibility, soon finds himself contending with a dark conspiracy, putting him at odds with the country, the people he once loved.

Will Franks be able to reveal the truth and restore peace? How can one man stand against ultimate authority?"

And this is the art style of the comic (yes I am serious):
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I want this story to appeal to kids, hence the more cartoonic style. Sorry for posting comic style in a manga thread.

I don't even have interior pages made, I will get more done in the next few weeks. In this case, @Monostar Leatherknuckles has one over me. He had something to show, even if it wasn't that good.

Note: Moner Man has that name because Franks has a Robit suit, which can transform into a tiny Robit. It is called Moner Machine. So, yeah.

Overall I know my proposal will be eh at best or striaght up offensive at worst. I know what's coming and I will accept the criticism AND the slur-slinging.
 
I liked the artstyle its reminders me of theses old webcomics. And writring children stuff can be very hard. I can't say much besides that. Did you took inspiration from thoses early 2000 cartoons?
Thanks for the kind words! I was anticipating someone to tell me how the style doesn't match the narrative. Maybe that's just me overthinking.

@m1ddl3m4rch Thank you very much!
 
Thanks for the kind words! I was anticipating someone to tell me how the style doesn't match the narrative. Maybe that's just me overthinking.

@m1ddl3m4rch Thank you very much!
First of all, I think based on what you said, being more cartoony and appealing to children, the art style is very fitting. I also like the pattern you used, it has a nice old comic vibe to it. The premise reminds me of Blade Runner and also a bit of Mega Man X. I would be interested in seeing more and getting more info about the characters and setting. Who knows, maybe you've got a character like Bai Dong-suk that will be a surprise hit.
 
Late reply. My main comic idea is Moner Man.

"The world was in a state of utopia. People lived carefree lives due to the age of omnipresent, convenient Robits.But not for long, for Robits started 'going rogue' and attack people constantly. Mr Franks, an apathetic bystander, is chosen by chance (?) to solve this crisis. His mission is simple: Protect the innocent, and deactivate the rogue Robits.

Easier said than done. Franks, by taking this immense responsibility, soon finds himself contending with a dark conspiracy, putting him at odds with the country, the people he once loved.

Will Franks be able to reveal the truth and restore peace? How can one man stand against ultimate authority?"

And this is the art style of the comic (yes I am serious):View attachment 5686732
I want this story to appeal to kids, hence the more cartoonic style. Sorry for posting comic style in a manga thread.

I don't even have interior pages made, I will get more done in the next few weeks. In this case, @Monostar Leatherknuckles has one over me. He had something to show, even if it wasn't that good.

Note: Moner Man has that name because Franks has a Robit suit, which can transform into a tiny Robit. It is called Moner Machine. So, yeah.

Overall I know my proposal will be eh at best or striaght up offensive at worst. I know what's coming and I will accept the criticism AND the slur-slinging.
This was all I was looking for from Monostar, a quick look at the idea that tells me the core and heart of the story. Your robot is beautifully drawn, it can be hard to put emotion in a machine while not making it off putting. He looks like a product that would be mass produced but the way the eyes are directed and the shape of the mouth gives me a good sense that robot has compassion.

Your premise is a concept that allows me to feel the beginning and imagine the rest of the journey. I may be shooting in the dark but it seems likes Franks is a straight laced character that dives into the bedrock of human depravity. It might be simple but it works. Also, it's nice to have a good premise but execution is where the magic happens.

I actually agree with a simple art style for a darker story. One, I appreciate an art style geared towards children that they can mimic and experiment with. Second, if you do your job right and build a bond for your readers to your characters, they will go anywhere with you regardless of your art style. Jeff Smith's Bones proves that. I'm also reminded of The Big Guy and Rusty the Boy Robot, an art direction that juxtapositions the tone. Tone is tricky but not set in stone.

I could easily see this in a bookstore or library.

Based on what I've seen, I can't give too much criticism. I'm not trying to hold my punches. Your foundation seems promising and has a lot of directions to go.

Something I would suggest that I haven't said in this thread yet, be sure to design characters with strong silhouettes. I think the robot is solid enough but other characters need to have solid structure. Question, the rouge robit, will they have different designs or is this a standard robit design? I don't think you have to go the rockman way, unique and silly designs but I think you can find ways the robits can accessorize to make their design different and expressive. Maybe you've already thought of that.

Also, keep stong images in mind when promoting this project. Your cover is great, keep making images likes that. Iconic is the key word, try to create a brand that instantly announces you.
 
Alright so. I'm not artistically inclined nor do I read manga but I've got some opinions.

But first things first, you should thumbnail your images in your posts. It'll help them load faster and make them easier to view. Attach your file then insert it as a thumbnail from the bottom of the post editor. Additionally on this forum you can highlight parts of posts and "+quote" them which will add them to your quotes that you can then insert using the insert quotes button at the bottom of the editor rather than making multiple posts replying to different messages.

Mono-coon didn't figure out those things so I just wanted to get them out of the way so I can enjoy reading the thread and not ree.

Easier said than done. Franks, by taking this immense responsibility, soon finds himself contending with a dark conspiracy, putting him at odds with the country, the people he once loved.

Will Franks be able to reveal the truth and restore peace? How can one man stand against ultimate authority?"
I like the themes you brought up a lot, ESPECIALLY as a children's book because they're things that really resonate with me personally and I feel are also things I'd want my child to understand and value. Things like personal responsibility, sacrifice, standing up to authority, and holding true to your own values are what I'm sort of getting from this and I don't really feel I see enough of that. I can possibly be misreading and applying my own bias.

"The world was in a state of utopia. People lived carefree lives due to the age of omnipresent, convenient Robits.But not for long, for Robits started 'going rogue' and attack people constantly. Mr Franks, an apathetic bystander, is chosen by chance (?) to solve this crisis. His mission is simple: Protect the innocent, and deactivate the rogue Robits.
I don't know a lot about storytelling but to me this sounds like a hero's journey, which from my understand is an important fundamental of storytelling because it provides a structure for your hero to have personal growth. So this also feels like a good sign to me that you've put in effort in understanding story structure.

I like the simplicity in the art style. That's about all I've got on that. I'm not an artist but I enjoyed looking at it.

Now. My schizo thoughts. Your character is called Franks and is a Moner machine. In my mind this could absolutely be a reference to our boy Monostar being named Frank and this whole thing is a hilarious joke. Which I'd kind of love, I'll be completely honest.

The cover has [soopycappy] on it and I actually do not think you're a retard so I think that was deliberate. A youtube channel comes up with that name and style for an Asian guy who makes animation and some of those animations seem to overlap with common people discussed in the lolcow sphere like MDE, Turkey Tom, and iDubbz. I do believe you said you were Asian. I imagine that you actually do understand where you are on the internet and probably fit in to at least some extent. This is reinforced with your profile posts referencing Norm Macdonald. I hope this at least means that you won't chimp out and we can all have a good time.

I do hope you're an adult cause I saw braces in the thumbnails from a couple years ago. Just watched 'hello, i am 33 years old' from March 2021 where you say you're 14 so I'm a little concerned.

Poking around the second channel I found the video 'touch grass' kinda hit me in the feels. Assuming this isn't a faildox I admire that ambition and self awareness.
 
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@PositiveMonk i would like to thank you for your input and no, you are right, that is my channel. I do intend on selling comics in the future, just not under the soopycappy name. in fact i have a gumroad linked to this email im using for this account and i plan on posting the comics on there for free for you guys.

i just turned 18, i understand if thats too young and you folks kick me off. in that case i will find another way to come back here. you guys will know it is me.

About the braces, I have had dental issues all my life, I wear retainers now

in general no not a faildox though I am quite careless for leaving that name in. It is what it is now, I am here forever.

EDIT: Also thanking Monk and @WE'RE ALL GONNA for roasting my shit formatting, as well as @Admiral Throbnelius and @Waifu Days for advice on art style.

Can't believe I didn't talk about Monk's assumptions of what I am trying to do with the story, you are pretty damn accurate except for the schizo thoughts, I have had this story in my head for a year now. I only just stumbled into this insanity a few days ago. It's funny how the similarities just keep building up.

Lastly, I still have no concrete character designs, only the Moner Man suit design.
 
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If you had legitimate aspirations of selling your stuff in the future, I'd really have to recommend doing it in a way not directly tied to this site. The association with Kiwi Farms is more trouble than it's worth, even if your actual postings are completely innocuous.
good point. i will publish in a separate pseudonym but i dont know how much of a help it can be when i am literally showing my art on here.

and for anyone who tries to cancel me. cancellations only work if i care about the opinions of the people cancelling me. i have come to expect a certain crowd of people petty enough to sabotage anybody who disagrees with their echo chamber, and i dont believe their concerns need to be in my consideration when i create my work. so bring it on, i have nothing to fear besides a possible regret of not pushing back against this PC shit enough.
 
I really hope this thread turns into a perpetual stew of people self doxing and posting their comic ideas. The Blobby the blobfish thread has been too quiet as of late sadly.

@liam dees do you like my Moner man art?


noooo tibet is not real contry!!! how dare u desecrate my creation! grory to sissy pee!!!!! /sneed
so is this porn parody also aimed at kids? :thinking:
wait did you actually try to add halftones to the art? commend you for that, tho the dots seem too small
 
so is this porn parody also aimed at kids?
no just wanted to see if you'd have a freakout like Mono. I'm still trying to chase that dopamine hit from last time.
wait did you actually try to add halftones to the art? commend you for that, tho the dots seem too small
yeah I don't know how to make them bigger :story:
 
no just wanted to see if you'd have a freakout like Mono. I'm still trying to chase that dopamine hit from last time.

yeah I don't know how to make them bigger :story:
well im gonna disappoint you. for now...

how to make them bigger? unless you are using procreate on ipad i cannot help you, i wish i could tho. got to also commend your replica of my handwriting for moner man, and gookycappy is funny as hell
 
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