EU French call to replace English with Latin as Europe's official language - Europeans rising up?


An anti-English movement is brewing in France. Clement Beaune, French Minister for European Affairs led a campaign for “European linguistic diversity” last month, where he emphasized the lack of need for English after Brexit.

“Let’s get used to speaking our languages again,” he said.

Faced with fierce critics, even domestically, Frexit advocate Francois Asselineau criticized the minister for failing to understand France’s position within the EU.

“To believe that French would once again become the first language in Europe after Brexit is not to understand that the EU is a geopolitical unit under the domination of the USA and NATO for 75 years,” writes Asselineau.

But many were on the sidelines of this debate, or found the idea even a little enticing, Asselineau one of them.

“To give the French language its full place in the world, France must regain an independent diplomacy from the USA, redirect its cooperation of all kinds towards Africa, Russia, Asia, and Latin America, and strengthen its industry, research, defence, and education,” he adds.

The minister was joined by French right-wing commentator Eric Zemmour, who called for a post-Brexit boycott of English, which he believes has “crushed” French.

Zemmour makes the compelling case that only two countries in the EU use English as a first language: Malta and Ireland. He goes on to call for a return to French as the EU’s official language.

“I think this is the time to launch a counter-offensive in favour of French, to recall that French was the original language of EU institutions,” notes Zemmour.

This is hardly the first time anti-English sentiments have surfaced in France. Realizing them is prevented by strict EU law. In the EU, any change to the official lingua franca of its organizations and procedures has to be approved by the European Council by a unanimous vote.

More recently, an article published in Le Figaro magazine makes the case that English should be done away within the EU, if not for French, then oddly enough, for Latin.

This is rooted in the struggle faced by non-native speakers of English, who claim that it gives native speakers an unfair advantage and hold over them.

Professor Marko Modiano, professor of English at the Swedish University of Gävle spoke to Politico, where he called for a Euro-English, with its own rules. His view is not a popular one, as linguists present practical reasons for using British English as the EU’s official language, and using it as a second language throughout Europe.

For these critics, the EU shouldn’t have a dominant language, but rather believe in multilingualism. The EU’s policy in this field ambitiously seeks to make all 24 languages equally official. As such, any EU citizen can write to the EU Commission, Parliament or Council in any of the 24 languages, and expect a reply. Meanwhile, the Parliament provides simultaneous interpretation for all its meetings and speeches.

For advocates of unseating English, that’s all well and good, but English has displaced French and many other languages. In Brussels, English has become the official and unofficial bureaucratic language of choice. According to EU commission records, nearly 90 percent of legislation is in English.

The Le Figaro article, penned by Sundar Ramanadane, claims Europe’s divorce from the English is complete, and says the feeling that French should be Europe’s lingua franca is hardly unique, pointing to articles by Germans that asks whether German should be the EU’s foremost language.

But for Ramandane, Latin is ideal. How does one revive an ancient, largely dead language? The case of Israel’s revival of Modern Hebrew is used as proof that it’s possible.

This is perceived as crucial and necessary if Europe will ever fulfil its dream of becoming more than a common market. The issue is an identity based on a common language and past, and this can never materialize in the status quo, he says.

Latin, he argues, is a natural choice. This is particularly given that every shared historical political experience in Europe leads back to Latin. From the Roman Empire and Christianity, to the Renaissance and Enlightenment, Latin was present throughout it all.

It’s not lacking for culture either, says Ramandane, used through nearly 2000 years of history as the only common link between European minds, leaders and scholars. He goes on to argue that it's no stranger to modern languages, having shaped them deeply.

More importantly, he argues, Latin is well-suited to politics. In fact, some of the greatest orators and legal experts spoke in Latin, and one that will make it possible to train political leaders and civil servants in rhetoric and logic, much like ancient Greece and Rome.

The biggest reason of all would be symbolic unity. A single language could unify Europe and let it evolve into the next great political union, rather than a loose scattering of states brought together by shared financial interests.

Unmentioned by the writer, Latin was actually the primary language of Europe until it was killed off by renaissance scholars who complained that Modern Latin was nowhere near the strength of classical Latin. Their efforts saw the language relegated to museums and the study of ancient classics, as it changed into the modern romantic languages of today.

Drivers of nationalism also believed in the development of alternative languages to English, which gave to the nation-state’s identity.

The idea that Latin also teaches better rhetoric is debunked by many, who argue that Latin doesn’t hold a monopoly on logic.

Another reason Latin went extinct was because of how difficult and complex it is. The language is by design, highly affected by vocal inflexion. That means nearly every spoken word can be modified based on context, voice, mood, person, number, gender, tense, and delivery. With no central authority governing what was authentic Latin, it quickly fell out of everyday usage.

While Europe does lack a uniform language, Latin critics argue, is not any better suited to its needs than English and is difficult to learn for all Europeans.
 
Nope as someone said earlier only 5 nations use latin based languages.

France, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Romania. Everywhere else in europe is Germanic or Slavic.

This is just the French being French again.
Belgium, Switzerland and Malta too. Well, for the former two it's partial but still counts.
Then they'd have to let Turkey in, and France would rather break up the EU rather than let that happen.
Turkey's not Arabic though.
 
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it has no historical relevance to Europe.
Also Latin is a root language for most European languages anyway
If you're west of the Rhine/South of the Alps maybe. Otherwise there's a good chance your language has more in common with English if either at all.
 
Latin didn't go extinct because of complexity. There are so many more complex languages. People change their way of speaking. Periodic efforts to retrench Latin used in law and the Church gradually put a distance between Latin and how people spoke.
 
it has no historical relevance to Europe.
Also Latin is a root language for most European languages anyway
It seems pretty racist to expect impoverished PoCs to learn a dead language literally nobody speaks.
Japanese is Latin tier with the sheer amount of BS in the language you have to take into account. Not to mention 3 fucking alphabets, the big one of kanji having each kanji have like 5 different meanings minimum.
Just make it Chinese. We'll need to know that to speak to our owners before too long.
And ironic then Latin, Germanic, Slavic and Celtic languages came from the same family tree: Indo-European languages.
Then obviously the most equitable thing to do is bring back proto-Indo-European.
 
Nope as someone said earlier only 5 nations use latin based languages.

France, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Romania. Everywhere else in europe is Germanic or Slavic.

This is just the French being French again.

Oi, Hungarian is Uralic. Our language had been remade expressly to be the official language in the country by linguists and writers and poets.

The austrians wanted us to change from latin to german, but lol nope. French would be even worse.

Why do we even need to learn other languages is beyond me. Most hungarians have no need for language skills, and English is really just needed for tourists and internet shitposters like me.
 
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The three obvious choices are:

1. Spanish, since it will probably overtake English as the language spoken by the majority of Americans at some point. Also has the advantage of being European and easy to learn. Assumes that the US will remain as the dominant global superpower and doesn't simply collapse.
2. Mandarin, since the EU loves sucking yellow micropeen, and the Jews of the Orient will likely take over if the US collapses.
3. Arabic, since the EU seems intent on becoming an Islamic caliphate as soon as possible.
 
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I had 6 years of Latin at school and would not want to bring it back, thanks. That said, at least the French respect their own language and don't use English words whenever possible to sound cool. I have the feeling most German people don't even know basic words anymore (and their spelling is horrible) and everything in German is just "cringe" and whatever.

two countries in the EU use English as a first language: Malta and Ireland
English is a first language in Ireland, but Irish is still the official national language.
 
I like how you used two words that are stolen 1:1 from another language as an example of how nonsensical the English pronunciations are, when you could have gone with so many others (tough, though, through, for example). People always bitch about French about the various "oi, eau, au, en, on," etc. which sound silly at first but are at least consistent throughout the whole language.

I didn't want to do this, but you've forced my hand.

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Damn, that 4 years of Latin I had to learn in secondary school will come in really handy now! Thanks, retards in the EU!
 
I think they should use Facilish instead.

It comes with the added bonus of it being virtually impossible to offend or disagree with someone.
 
I'm just glad to see the frogs focusing on important issues. Who cares about hordes of muslims and niggers raping their way across the nation and literally beheading schoolteachers in the streets.
I was watching a random travel channel video on YouTube the other day where the host (who I didn't know otherwise) went to Paris. She showed tons of great footage of the city and the people she met in it... and the second half of the video was talking about how she was sexually assaulted by migrants, and the comments section was filled with normies talking frankly about how often they had been robbed, pickpocketed, or attacked by migrants and saying that the Paris they loved is gone.

It shocked me that normal people are frankly admitting what the problem is now. Though maybe they feel like they can do it now that it's too late.
 
Nope as someone said earlier only 5 nations use latin based languages.

France, Italy, Spain, Portugal and Romania. Everywhere else in europe is Germanic or Slavic.

This is just the French being French again.

Oddly enough, the one Germanic language with the most influence from Latin is English, partly due to the fact that Latin and French were the default languages of the British nobility prior to the 16th Century.
 
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