🦊 Furry Furry Convention Drama - Because you can't have a couple thousand dog fucking enthusiasts under the same roof without shit hitting the fan

ZapThePickle said:
@bigjohnclickclack, tagged you since I can't reply, but to think that one of the largest furry convention (last year they hit 17k attendance, and broke the record) I doubt anthrocon is going to go anywhere, and when I say Pittsburgh embraces these fucks they make a big production. If anything Anthrocon is exactly what it wants to be "The shining Star and moral example of furries everywhere! We're just silly little guys in silly little costumes! You love costume characters!"



What I do think is so funny that they want to keep this squeaky clean image when their chairman Uncle Kage Is a groomer an all around degenerate pedophile himself but I guess if he keeps up that holier than thou persona nobody will call him out on it
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whats that guy done I've just seen him on that furry documentary
 
Did we cover racism yet? The fursuit parade rules are also racist, on top of classist, sexist, and ableist as we've already covered. Because for some reason only "upper class white cis males" are capable of following rules.
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Some people are also upset over the "no flags" rule, especially because the con happens in June.
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I think I could understand why no flags beyond the knee-jerk assumption. Fursuits are inherently low vision, and most flags flown for pride are fairly large. A Fursuit parade is usually a pretty tight line of suits. So if your vision is filled with nothing but the flags in front of you, it could be a bit of a nightmare and tripping hazard.
 
Shitted Scaredless said:
I think I could understand why no flags beyond the knee-jerk assumption. Fursuits are inherently low vision, and most flags flown for pride are fairly large. A Fursuit parade is usually a pretty tight line of suits. So if your vision is filled with nothing but the flags in front of you, it could be a bit of a nightmare and tripping hazard.
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Plus how are people supposed to show off their $10K commissioned murrsuits with a bunch of even more annoying faggots waving flags everywhere?
 
I think Anthrocon is experiencing the true generation change. With a lot of the "older" Millennial and late Gen-X furries either not attending or having mellowed out a bit, the con got used to participants who aren't as openly spastic and keep it to the room parties. They are now dealing with hyperactive Gen-Z furries who grew up with a phone raising them and were taught that you should be as loud and obnoxious as possible, which doesn't fly when your con gets attendee numbers in the 10s of thousands.
 
I love that they have so many separate baubles they insist on showing off all at once that it creates a physical safety risk and that they cry "racism!" at people pointing out "hey maybe you shouldn't drape long flowy flags across each other's bodies while marching in a tight formation in vision-limiting suits."

It's a hopeless traffic jam of virtue signaling, both symbolically and physically, and instead of just one person stepping up and saying "oh okay yeah, I'll tone it down a little bit, and if everyone else does too, there'll be room for all of us," they're going to just drown together because they're being asked not to show skin while dressing up like animals that have no bare skin to begin with but who also need to wear pride flags for some reason.

Everyday Beeze said:
I wonder if the only reason these bunch have jobs is to fund their freaky interests in suits and sex.
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Kind of a scary thought that just going with traditional prostitutes is substantially safer and substantially cheaper than the shit this lot gets up to.
 
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moocow said:
I love that they have so many separate baubles they insist on showing off all at once that it creates a physical safety risk and that they cry "racism!" at people pointing out "hey maybe you shouldn't drape long flowy flags across each other's bodies while marching in a tight formation in vision-limiting suits."

It's a hopeless traffic jam of virtue signaling, both symbolically and physically, and instead of just one person stepping up and saying "oh okay yeah, I'll tone it down a little bit, and if everyone else does too, there'll be room for all of us," they're going to just drown together because they're being asked not to show skin while dressing up like animals that have no bare skin to begin with but who also need to wear pride flags for some reason.


Kind of a scary thought that just going with traditional prostitutes is substantially safer and substantially cheaper than the shit this lot gets up to.
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i think they simply cannot imagine the technical aspects of the events, like spoiled kids often do, they can't envision any issues or physical limitations because in their head they only view themselves, prancing down the street in whatever gear they desire, and somewhere elsewhere another person exists, maybe, possibly, but doesn't really matter
it's a magical world of expectations where nothing technical exists, like a kid who thinks running a fair is just clowns and cotton candy wonderland and doesn't consider the amount of work that goes into setting things up or maintaining them
similarly when these people imagine the parade in their head they imagine something straight out of an old cartoon where everyone just walks in perfect formation as things fall and clunk and roll but somehow make their way back into place, and fabric waves elegantly between the legs of people who step around it with perfect whimsical precision and objects bounce into place as if alive in a sort of cacophony of functional and organized chaos
they don't think of the actual mechanics of the real world
 
Cuntspiracy Man said:
i think they simply cannot imagine the technical aspects of the events, like spoiled kids often do, they can't envision any issues or physical limitations because in their head they only view themselves, prancing down the street in whatever gear they desire, and somewhere elsewhere another person exists, maybe, possibly, but doesn't really matter
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No theory of mind. Lots of retards and autists have that problem (Russell Greer immediately springs to mind).
 
The absolute meltdowns that furries are having over this is hilarious. The parade is a single event, slated for a two-hour window. No one is telling them that they can't poodle at the convention. But they don't see it because the parade is the entirety of their con existence. Some of the rules aren't even changed. The "no flags" rule has been in place for years, and stands as a relic of the fursuit photo, where they were trying to cram as many bodies as possible into a single photo that you could smell through your screen.

I am honestly and legitimately looking forward to when younger Gen-Z takes over convention leadership. The entire structure is going to fall apart.
 
Desumorphine said:
I think Anthrocon is experiencing the true generation change. With a lot of the "older" Millennial and late Gen-X furries either not attending or having mellowed out a bit, the con got used to participants who aren't as openly spastic and keep it to the room parties. They are now dealing with hyperactive Gen-Z furries who grew up with a phone raising them and were taught that you should be as loud and obnoxious as possible, which doesn't fly when your con gets attendee numbers in the 10s of thousands.
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It's exactly this. AC is run by people that don't party and don't have sex at cons like the rates the younger crowd does. It's sort of like the anecdotes you hear from old furs going to party cons like FWA and having a horrible time.
 
sex haver said:
Like Realhat mentioned above, the very concept of any human skin shown while fursuiting used to be EXTREMELY taboo in the fandom
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the only thing now taboo in the fandom is having taboos it seems
moocow said:
I love that they have so many separate baubles they insist on showing off all at once that it creates a physical safety risk
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This is dork culture in a nutshell.
I love going to PAX and seeing some giant dude in a utilikilt, every single one of his six thousand pockets full to bursting, wearing like eight scarves in the middle of spring so he has something to attach his millions of enamel pins to, Eevee keychains attached to his Eevee hat, covered with buckles and bracelets and straps and whatever-the-fucks, with like mugs and books and bottles all attached to him, just clanking down the hallway on his way to buy more things and attach them to his person, in a celebration of excess. Nature is beautiful.
Sintharia said:
No one is telling them that they can't poodle at the convention.
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Sigh.
What's "poodling"?
Oh, is it like only wearing parts of a suit to keep cool? Like a poodle clip leaves parts of the fur on a dog to keep the dog cool?
Is this furry slang that isn't about some kind of terrifying sex thing? 🌈
 
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Law said:
Sigh.
What's "poodling"?
Oh, is it like only wearing parts of a suit to keep cool? Like a poodle clip leaves parts of the fur on a dog to keep the dog cool?
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precisely

truth is furries were always weird but older furries also knew how to keep their weirdness in check, the whole trend of wanting everything all at once, being able to act out in public and be applauded for it, considering the fact that you're free to do as your please but are kindly asked to tone it down in public to be oppression on par with being repressed and committed violence against for who you are. it's all very modern
if you saw the furry scene early on and even going up to the 2000's, it was a much more organic mix of sexual and nonsexual and the sex stuff was kept as low as... well... anything sexual, really
but there's an issue with modern generations where they don't comprehend the concept of "this isn't the right forum for this", they don't understand that, to quote prof. Oak, "there's a time and a place for everything", everything they like and believe in occupies 100% of their brain at any time and they NEED to air it out NOW, HERE, and everyone who doesn't like it be damned

this probably also explains their approach to activism, there's no time to fight and time to party, everywhere is just the proverbial toilet
even a dog knows not to shit where it sleeps
 
Cuntspiracy Man said:
this probably also explains their approach to activism, there's no time to fight and time to party, everywhere is just the proverbial toilet
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Yeah, I can definitely see this.
Dragon*Con had to oust a literal child rapist founder and then took the "after dark" track and made it into its own convention called Frolicon. I think that was the right move. Personally I don't have the type of autism that makes me go "table-top gaming and bondage sex go together like chocolate and peanut-butter" but apparently enough other people do.
I think that furry was always about breaking down boundaries. The boundaries between human and animal, the boundary between a cartoon for kids and one for adults, the boundaries between what's allowed and what's not. So now they've broken down so many boundaries that you end up with a dude dressed as a green neon husky-fox-wolf-robot hybrid wearing a diaper at a Hilton shouting "Free Palestine" while his polyamourous transgender girlfriend explains communism to his headmates, one of whom is literally Hitler.
It's like the whole fandom up and gave itself schizophrenia.
 
Law said:
I don't have the type of autism
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it does seem like combining two things you love is a symptom of autism
while it's odd i can understand it
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i agree most odd subcultures had an aspect of breaking boundaries to them, and furries are one such that is fully aware of it and prides itself in it
but that raises the question, are you breaking them to be subversive, or are you doing it because the boundaries stand in the way of something you don't want? if we took down the proverbial fence, would they be happy for the ease of passing through, or upset that now there's nothing to climb over?
if there are no boundaries, what is there to break?
i think society as a whole has suffered greatly from everything being out in the open, certain naughty things, concepts and subcultures, being forced into the light and made to be seen by the greater public ruined them, there's fun in the covert underground cultures being underground and there's cultural order in certain things being known but not mentioned, another issue with our world is the faux intellectual belief that everything needs to be known and said publicly which polite society is actively antithecal to, we as people can only exist with one another if we all have personal worlds that the general public isn't privy to
 
Cuntspiracy Man said:
it does seem like combining two things you love is a symptom of autism
while it's odd i can understand it
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The line about pretzel-shaped brains had me guffawing. Thank you.
I think it also ties into the dorky excesses I mentioned above, and why so many autists end up adopting "landfill" as their personal style. Maybe the 'tism stops people from realizing that two great tastes don't always taste great together? Many of the autists I've personally known are like this, now that I think of it. Maybe it's also a child-like trait, little kids will say stuff like "I'm a firetruck ballerina SpongeBob". Maybe in autists that part of the brain never grows up?
 
I'm shocked a furry convention even does a fursuit parade at all these days. I know that fur-eh did something like this but you were expected to dance along to the music, outside in 35+ heat with humidity.
I can applaud a convention for making proper rules for it though. It's about time they made it a special thing to do, instead of letting everyone pile in. Also, if anyone wants to complain about poodling, i remember a few cons banning it outright before.
They have a lounge just for cooling off normally if you're in suit: if you can't handle walking in suit, then don't wear one.
 
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