🦊 Furry Furry Fandom and Drama General

Uncle Warren said:
A literal one or figurative? With furries and cancer you can't tell anymore.
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Literal; they haven't logged in in months across their socials from what I've seen and general consensus is they have died or are otherwise incapacitated, though some are hopeful they're just recovering in private. I'd also forgotten that another member of ArtRi.se's dev team passed earlier due to Covid earlier as well, pretty much leaving Pokemutt, Nym, and some discord helpers in charge in the meantime.

There are some rumors claiming Pokemutt took funds the raised by Artri.se donos to kickstart Buzzly since the first site wasn't going to be launching any time soon, although he may've been given permission from ArtRi.se staff to do so at the time. Either way Buzzly was very much built with the bones of ArtRi.se.
 
The Ultimate Ramotith said:
I feel bad that Buzzly seems to be rotting. There is a need after deviantArt made tonnes of changes, but...
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I feel the sentiment, but on the other hand, the recurring cycle of "a new, better website comes along to replace an old unbearable site only for them to fuck it up somehow" is getting a little tiring. Still waiting on that fabled "Furaffinity Killer" that won't end up dropping the ball.
 
Crossed Animal said:
I feel the sentiment, but on the other hand, the recurring cycle of "a new, better website comes along to replace an old unbearable site only for them to fuck it up somehow" is getting a little tiring. Still waiting on that fabled "Furaffinity Killer" that won't end up dropping the ball.
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I remember FAOpen... and how the Silver Eagle was betrayed a that endeavour...
 
The Ultimate Ramotith said:
I feel bad that Buzzly seems to be rotting. There is a need after deviantArt made tonnes of changes, but...
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The few posts whining about Buzzly that I could find were because the site banned certain pornographic material and apparently a single admin is banning random people, either that admin is based or he's a prick depending on the circumstances of those bans.

The only issue I see with the bad press would be that it discourages people from signing up on the site and then it slowly goes into irrelevancy, but other than that, it seems far better than DeviantArt at dealing with weird shit and furry coomers.
 
the reason why so much art sites fail when there's seemingly huge demand for more websites seems similar to YouTube and new video-sharing platforms: While there is huge stated demand for a new website to rise up against DeviantArt or FurAffinity, it has been proven time and time again that there is little to no actual demand for new platforms. Combine this with the fact that furries are more likely to have skeletons in the closet more than normal web devs. A cursory glance at the PokeMutt/RedArcanine situation or Dragoneer's entire history on FA is a good way to see just what I mean about furry webdevs having entire skeletons in the closet.

An example of what I mean with the "huge stated demand vs no actual demand" phrase is Weasyl, years ago during the FA Buyout everyone moved their then-current galleries to Weasyl in hopes that they get an audience on there. Nowadays Weasyl is a mere ghost town with those who upload there only do so because it's an option through the "PostyBirb" Program. An example of what this all means is a random piece I can find on both FA (left) and Weasyl (right):
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Spoonomancer said:
the reason why so much art sites fail when there's seemingly huge demand for more websites seems similar to YouTube and new video-sharing platforms: While there is huge stated demand for a new website to rise up against DeviantArt or FurAffinity, it has been proven time and time again that there is little to no actual demand for new platforms. Combine this with the fact that furries are more likely to have skeletons in the closet more than normal web devs. A cursory glance at the PokeMutt/RedArcanine situation or Dragoneer's entire history on FA is a good way to see just what I mean about furry webdevs having entire skeletons in the closet.

An example of what I mean with the "huge stated demand vs no actual demand" phrase is Weasyl, years ago during the FA Buyout everyone moved their then-current galleries to Weasyl in hopes that they get an audience on there. Nowadays Weasyl is a mere ghost town with those who upload there only do so because it's an option through the "PostyBirb" Program. An example of what this all means is a random piece I can find on both FA (left) and Weasyl (right):
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Its very much like what we've seen several times in the tech sector - although surveys might point to the general public thinking a new platform's new policies/features are a good idea, it doesn't mean they actually will switch over to it. Weasyl really was the OS/2 and Windows Phone of Furry Art sites.
 
Spoonomancer said:
the reason why so much art sites fail when there's seemingly huge demand for more websites seems similar to YouTube and new video-sharing platforms: While there is huge stated demand for a new website to rise up against DeviantArt or FurAffinity, it has been proven time and time again that there is little to no actual demand for new platforms. Combine this with the fact that furries are more likely to have skeletons in the closet more than normal web devs. A cursory glance at the PokeMutt/RedArcanine situation or Dragoneer's entire history on FA is a good way to see just what I mean about furry webdevs having entire skeletons in the closet.

An example of what I mean with the "huge stated demand vs no actual demand" phrase is Weasyl, years ago during the FA Buyout everyone moved their then-current galleries to Weasyl in hopes that they get an audience on there. Nowadays Weasyl is a mere ghost town with those who upload there only do so because it's an option through the "PostyBirb" Program. An example of what this all means is a random piece I can find on both FA (left) and Weasyl (right):
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Another massive problem seen in any new art hosting site getting started is trying to get normies onto it. Either 'normie' furries, or normies. Often times new websites promote themselves as 'censorship free' which tends to attract people banned from the mainline sites. Most of those people are either whackos, extremists, or in the case of furries into some fucked up fetishes. Zoo, cub, diaper, etc etc.

So when the starting user base is a group of people normies don't want to interact with, you're never going to get the bulk of people to go there. Weasyl shot itself in the foot with the fetishes allowed, Ink Bunny did the same with the no human, and cub rule. It happened in the past, and it's going to happen in the future.

As much as I hate normies, they are still the vast majority of traffic on the bigger sites.
 
Rukario said:
Its very much like what we've seen several times in the tech sector - although surveys might point to the general public thinking a new platform's new policies/features are a good idea, it doesn't mean they actually will switch over to it. Weasyl really was the OS/2 and Windows Phone of Furry Art sites.
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Still better than Inkbunny lol.
 
Blacklight said:
Another massive problem seen in any new art hosting site getting started is trying to get normies onto it. Either 'normie' furries, or normies. Often times new websites promote themselves as 'censorship free' which tends to attract people banned from the mainline sites. Most of those people are either whackos, extremists, or in the case of furries into some fucked up fetishes. Zoo, cub, diaper, etc etc.

So when the starting user base is a group of people normies don't want to interact with, you're never going to get the bulk of people to go there. Weasyl shot itself in the foot with the fetishes allowed, Ink Bunny did the same with the no human, and cub rule. It happened in the past, and it's going to happen in the future.

As much as I hate normies, they are still the vast majority of traffic on the bigger sites.
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Once you run enough online VTT RPG games, you learn that 90% of your players steal token art from DeviantArt or Rule34. Normies-stealing-art traffic is important to keeping a site alive.
 
Blacklight said:
So when the starting user base is a group of people normies don't want to interact with, you're never going to get the bulk of people to go there. Weasyl shot itself in the foot with the fetishes allowed, Ink Bunny did the same with the no human, and cub rule. It happened in the past, and it's going to happen in the future.
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Normies don't go onto a furry site. FURRIES go onto a furry site. The reason why most of the newer sites end up crashing and burning is the exact same reason why every other major social network site holds a monopoly: Everyone else is on the popular platform and the alternative is new and possibly buggy. People do not like change and to move to a new website, relearning everything, and attempting to get new clientelle and a group of friends is a lot harder than staying on the platform where everyone is and it's easier to find people to sell to and/or hang out with. With that plus the volatile nature of furfags when it comes to digging up dirt on people as if it's built into them, you can expect new sites to die off much easier.
 
Some old rug idk said:
i just wonder why aren't people reporting this shit, e621's strict rules on comments is probably one of the few positive things around the site
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Unless it’s something serious like saying that they’re a minor or that they fucked their dog or something else along those lines, the mods usually won’t care about creepy comments if they’re older than a month.
 
LoloFennec, a fursuit maker got into a bit of drama after she told off another fursuit maker about adding dreads to fursuits. Locking her account after people accuse her of virtue signaling and racism.
Credits to Zoopwolf for the images
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LoloFennec, prior to privating her account, she talked big about how she wont let the racists push her over and such.

LoloFennec’s own site made with weebly.

Also:
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What a moron.

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It gets worse homies.
 
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Cedric_Eff said:
LoloFennec, a fursuit maker got into a bit of drama after she told off another fursuit maker about adding dreads to fursuits. Locking her account after people accuse her of virtue signaling and racism.
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LoloFennec, prior to privating her account, she talked big about how she wont let the racists push her over and such.

LoloFennec’s own site made with weebly.

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What a moron.
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More dirt was found on her within the same thread link. https://mobile.twitter.com/nergroe/status/1505406899721682947
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She privated shortly afterwards.
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Never change fursuit faggots.

Edit because I’m a retard who forgot Spoiler is a thing.
 
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Thistle said:
And removing the dreads whent from having a somewhat different design that brought something more unique to it, to being a generic shitball.
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Many characters that furries make ain't original these days. Nothing is Unique.
 
if I was a fursuit fag I would simply not make a generic gray fox character (I think that's the intent? the upside down triangle marking on the muzzle seems to indicate a fox character I think?) with the only "defining quality" being that of a dreadlocks hair style.
Smuggly Prick said:
More dirt was found on her within the same thread link. https://mobile.twitter.com/nergroe/status/1505406899721682947
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She privated shortly afterwards.
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Never change fursuit faggots.

Edit because I’m a retard who forgot Spoiler is a thing.
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I don't watch anime, but that anime character design shouts My Hero Academia as fuck, which isn't exactly a good sign when you realize how bad the MHA community is.
 
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