Furry Fandom and Drama General

I know I'm not adding anything new here, but I'll just give my take on furries.

If you're a furry, that's fine. As long as you don't push it on everyone else and it's not what your entire life is about, more power to you. Hell, I won't even care about your fetishes if you keep them to yourself.
(Except for the Cubfurs, Diaperfurs, scat, and water sports. Those are just wrong.) Fursuits are strange, but I won't complain as long as they stay in the conventions. On the other hand, fursecution isn't real, end of discussion. Yes, some people will hate furries just because they are furries. You know who else that applies to? Everyone else on the fucking planet. Yes, furries have negative stereotypes associated with them because of a vocal minority. However, almost nothing is being done to fix it, and that is not okay. The fact that this minority has become so vocal is a sign that the furry community needs more damage control. Their prevalence in itself is a problem.
What I'm basically saying is, I'm cool with furries and don't agree with the stereotypes, but they are at least somewhat responsible for the stereotypes when they can't keep the crazy ones under control.


Also, stop ending words like "kitty" with "eh." It's annoying and no one likes it.
 
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Does anyone know why anthropomorphic animals attract so many creeps who love to draw bizarre, revolting fetish porn of said anthros?

Has that been covered yet? Because I will never understand this.
 
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Too Many Crooks said:
Well that GIF certainly is creepy.
Sadly, plenty of freaks out there would get a hard-on for it.
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I think that show was around before the internet.
Mabye it's because a lot of people grew up liking anthro animal cartoons, some of those people just turned out to be gross.

a lot of non-furries have bizarre fetishes. Where these abstract fetishes come from I have no idea. Adding cartoon animals just makes things weirder.

Edit: I meant before the internet became a freak show
 
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MasterMolassesAssassin said:
I think that show was around before the internet.
Mabye it's because a lot of people grew up liking anthro animal cartoons, some of those people just turned out to be gross.

a lot of non-furries have bizarre fetishes. Where these abstract fetishes come from I have no idea.
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It started early 90s, well after the Internet.
 
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Has there been any attempt to purge the degenerates from their community?
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Not really. There's been groups that have tried, but they haven't really been successful.

The major problem with this stuff is that Furries are far, far too open about themselves, and many of them take pride in the fact they're sexual deviants. Thus, they treat conventions as their own personal venue to tell everyone just how they get their rocks off. Eurofurence does the right thing, banning the blatantly sexual stuff from the convention and public space. I think the problem is that major US conventions (i.e. Anthrocon) tread very lightly around this issue for some reason, one I would assume has to do with the perception of the convention from outsiders. Take a look at Anthrocon's Standards of Conduct regarding clothing...

All convention areas are considered to be "PG" at all times, with the exception of events or exhibits that are specifically noted to be inappropriate for minors and access to which is controlled by Anthrocon Security staff.

Attendees, when in public areas, may not wear clothing which is overly revealing or inappropriate to the atmosphere of the convention, such as fetish-related garb and accoutrements. Collars are acceptable as a fashion statement, but leashes attached thereunto are not.

Shirts, pants/shorts, and footwear must be worn when in areas of the hotel or convention center that are accessible to non-Anthrocon attendees, such as lobbies, restaurants and concourses, except for the pool area.

Full-body fursuits are excluded from the "shirts/pants/footwear" rule, provided that the costume is not unacceptably revealing. Certain accoutrements such as leashes may be included as part of a costume at the discretion of the Security Chief. For safety reasons, fursuits are not permitted in the hotel swimming pool or dining areas.

Public displays of affection beyond what is appropriate for polite company are frowned upon. You will be asked to express your devotion to your significant other either in less conspicuous ways, or in private.
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and then the Eurofurence one...

CLOTHING AND DECENCY
  • Wearing costumes, accessories or displaying items made out of real fur is not allowed.
  • Nudity exceeding the equivalent of a non-thong bathing suit is not allowed in public.
  • To prevent damage to costumes and hotel property, body paint requires an individual permission by the Chief of Security. Face makeup does not require permission.
  • Sexual behaviour that goes beyond a mere display of affection is not allowed in public.
  • Blatant exposure of fetish gear is not permitted in public, even if it is part of a costume.
  • Display of adult materials (such as room signs, flyers, business cards, posters and drawings on public message boards) is not permitted in public areas of the hotel and convention center.
The limit for "adult themed" materials is the equivalent of what you can see on the magazine covers at an average German newsstand. Drawing the line for "fetish gear" is a little bit more tricky. To avoid unexpected differences with our Security Staff, please ask us in advance if you're unsure about the adequacy of an item.
When used as a fashion statement or part of a costume, the following items are usually allowed:

  • Collars (without leash)
  • Decorative Wristbands (without D-Rings)
  • Sled Dog Harnesses (only if part of a matching costume)
The following items are explicitly NOT allowed in public:
  • Full-body rubber or vinyl costumes.
  • Costumes that are visibly "anatomically correct".
  • Costumes or accessories related to age-play, pet-play or BDSM.
  • Costumes indecently revealing the wearers own private anatomy.
We may take the liberty to allow additional exceptions if your outfit is exceptionally discrete, tasteful and/or good looking - no promise, though.
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Eurofurence spells out what you can and can't do, while Anthrocon just kind of goes "Mmm, yeah. Nothing inappropriate now!"
 
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MasterMolassesAssassin said:
I think that show was around before the internet.
Mabye it's because a lot of people grew up liking anthro animal cartoons, some of those people just turned out to be gross.

a lot of non-furries have bizarre fetishes. Where these abstract fetishes come from I have no idea. Adding cartoon animals just makes things weirder.
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You make a good point.

Indeed, plenty of people who aren't even furries are into some nasty, freaky kinks (I don't even want to get into that, ugh). I guess hardcore "furry-ness" is just another sign of being sexually maladjusted.

I think I wrote this in another post, but I've seen some of the weirdest fetishes in furry art. Like someone turning into a latex or rubber animal. Or macro/micro-philes (sometimes with disturbing "vore").

Yeah, I don't know, either.

Is it because the characters being drawn are not human or something?

Personally, I love anthro characters in TV/movies (Disney, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera, Warner Bros. etc) and video games, along with comics like Lackadaisy Cats & Blacksad. ...Just keep the fetish shit away.

I used to draw anthro canines (sorry, power-level) quite often from 2006-2011, but I eventually stopped because I was afraid of being pegged as a furfag. I didn't even draw nudity.

I went to FurAffinity once, and I was repulsed with what I found there, even with a basic search. :cryblood:
 
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JFK's right. It's too late to put the genie back in the bottle. The time to put the kibbosh on the fetishists was in the early days, and that didn't happen. Furries will forever be associated with kink and various forms of sick perversity, and that's sad, because many furries aren't into that shit (literally and/or figuratively).
 
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"Furry" content has been around for a lot longer than that, and for a time nobody even cared that it was furry. Heck, I remember when x-rated furry material was considered "edgy," and "artistic," instead of "creepy," and "autistic".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_the_Cat_(film)

For those that don't click links, and are not familiar with it, Fritz the Cat is an X-rated "funny animal" cartoon produced in 1972, and was the most successful independently animated feature of all time. It was a story of good ol' fashioned sex, drugs, and rock and roll (none of this inflation or cub crap). The reviews of the day didn't care about the "furry" nature of the content, but praised it for the animation and the risks it was taking instead. That was probably the closest that anthropomorphic content has ever come to being mainstream.


Sadly, it went wrong quick, and if I had to guess, the last chance for furry redemption was sometime in the early 90's -- back in the early dawn of the internet. That's basically when the furry fandom "came out" so to speak. While the various Sci-Fi and Fantasy nerddoms were trying to be taken seriously, and sweeping all their creepers under the rug, somehow animated cartoons drew in all the deviant autistic manchildren, and they latched onto the furry fandom in particular with a death-grip until they were the only visible members.

And now it's probably too late. Shows like South Park managed to save standard animation from being "just for kids and losers," but slip an anthro character in, and any show can suddenly become "creepy furry stuff."
The stigma is just too great to overcome at this point. If furries want to become a mainstream fandom, it's gonna be a long long uphill battle, both ways, in the snow.

TLDR: Them furballs done effed it up.
 
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Sage of the Desert said:
"Furry" content has been around for a lot longer than that, and for a time nobody even cared that it was furry. Heck, I remember when x-rated furry material was considered "edgy," and "artistic," instead of "creepy," and "autistic".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_the_Cat_(film)

For those that don't click links, and are not familiar with it, Fritz the Cat is an X-rated "funny animal" cartoon produced in 1972, and was the most successful independently animated feature of all time. It was a story of good ol' fashioned sex, drugs, and rock and roll (none of this inflation or cub crap). The reviews of the day didn't care about the "furry" nature of the content, but praised it for the animation and the risks it was taking instead. That was probably the closest that anthropomorphic content has ever come to being mainstream.


Sadly, it went wrong quick, and if I had to guess, the last chance for furry redemption was sometime in the early 90's -- back in the early dawn of the internet. That's basically when the furry fandom "came out" so to speak. While the various Sci-Fi and Fantasy nerddoms were trying to be taken seriously, and sweeping all their creepers under the rug, somehow animated cartoons drew in all the deviant autistic manchildren, and they latched onto the furry fandom in particular with a death-grip until they were the only visible members.

And now it's probably too late. Shows like South Park managed to save standard animation from being "just for kids and losers," but slip an anthro character in, and any show can suddenly become "creepy furry stuff."
The stigma is just too great to overcome at this point. If furries want to become a mainstream fandom, it's gonna be a long long uphill battle, both ways, in the snow.

TLDR: Them furballs done effed it up.
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Around the 70s and 80s there were Anthromorphic Fan Magazines which were mass produced independently and shared through friends. Furries really perked up during the internet's move in the mid-90s/2000s.

Those who produced content during the 80s are called Greymuzzles.
 
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Fritz the Cat wasn't a furry film, though, by the modern definition. Fritz was an x-rated, animated movie that incidentally starred talking animals, which could have been replaced with humans without affecting much. A furry film would be about talking animals first, the plot would revolve around it, the characters would be defined by it. That's the thing - furries are into talking animals for the sake of talking animals.

I read an interesting article a while back about how the furry fetishists took over one of the first furry conventions, which was originally started by people who just liked funny animal art and movies. I'll see if I can find it.
 
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JFKdestroyer said:
Eurofurence spells out what you can and can't do, while Anthrocon just kind of goes "Mmm, yeah. Nothing inappropriate now!"
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The Euros are doing it better by actually having a list. Expecting people with thermonuclear autism to have any idea what's "appropriate" is a lost cause.
 
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