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I never cook. I really want a an automated cooking situation.

We've all seen movies with overly complicated 'Rube Goldberg' machine's for cooking
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Pretty sure Flubber had one too, but I can't find it.


Anyway, I think automated cooking is possible with current tech, and eventually inevitable.

There are basically 3 things that are necessary to make it possible:
  1. Food storage designed for automation
  2. Transportation from storage to cooking device
  3. Cooking machine itself
I'll try to be specific here. Let's make an egg scramble with cheese, spinach and bacon.

Storage
Current food storage (e.g. Fridges, Cabinets, and food packaging itself) is made for human use.; so that we can properly browse and grab items. A machine would use it differently.
It would make sense for the eggs to be pre-cracked and scrambled. The cheese would be shredded. Bacon would be cut up in this case. And all would be in a separate compartment in something resembling a cross between a vending machine and fridge.

Transportation
This is the most nuanced one. I think in most cases, it would make sense for the automated oven and "stove" to be connected to the vending-fridge, and the vending-fridge would just feed the food into the cooking machine.

Cooking Machine
For a "stove", it would make more sense for it to resemble something like a tiny, heated washer or dryer for clothes. It would spin at different temperatures, intervals, and speeds depending on the food. First the bacon would go in, then the spinach, then the eggs, then the cheese. Then it would be dropped on a plate and Jarvis would alert me that my food is finished.
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That's my idea for automated cooking.
Feel free to design your own future tech idea, or add to / poke holes in mine.
 
I mean, yea automating cooking is absolutely feasible, just like most other chemical processes, though, the question is RoI. At the moment, process control and automation remains complicated and troublesome enough that Using it for the simple act of cooking is still a grey area. What you also have to consider in all of this, is the following:

Product Quality
Process Reproducibility
Flexibility

Product quality seems rather straightforward save for it is very difficult to quantify taste, and nearly impossible to predictively model a given individual's response in terms of taste. Thus, it would more than likely lead to such a process being rolled out as part of a futuristic restaurant to gauge the generalized response and to set a baseline for people's expectations.

Process reproducibility is a problem even in industry. Limitations from equipment, and measurement apparati lead to an offset on the controller that must be properly tuned to accommodate this issue. Without this, the food you would get from this automated cook would be a literal crapshoot. That programming to get the controller down pat is really fucking hard and thus really fucking expensive. This begs the question, why would a restaurant invest in it? If i can pay a few non-skilled laborers to produce similar results for exorbitantly less money, why invest in this technology (for now, at least)? The Justification will need to come with time and probably as process automation as a field advances.

In terms of flexibility, given what the system will provide people are going to want to make adjustments, and get new recipes. This would thus take the shape of either a series of software modules for each group of recipes, or some really complex, and thus, really expensive Machine Learning code to adjust the process automation inline to reflect the wants of the end user. At the minimum is a user interface to give specifications for the food by the end user.

All of this then begs the question: why not do the cooking yourself or pay someone to do it for you? While feasible, doing all of this remains expensive and the end result largelyuncertain. That even neglects as to whether people want their cooking automated. They might say yes for now, but if the product does not meet their (likely wild) expectations, or they have a scare about privacy, or they have a scare about safety, it's a flop on the market and the RoI goes totally kaput. At that investment level, that is not an acceptable possibility.

TL;DR: Technically this could be done, but the barrier for the initial investment is putting this at least a few more years away, and it is not entirely certain that People really want something like this.
 
the future tech that's kicked the lid off pandora's box is AI, closely followed by genetic modification. technology is going to redefine life in the Aldous Huxley manner.
 
Automated cooking devices as seen in sci-fi are obviously not going to appear any time soon, but there are already multipurpose devices like multicookers. They are quite popular where I live.

Regardless future technology, I think neural network and machine learning technologies will be refined further:
  • Machine translation has already made a huge leap over the past five years thanks to neural networks. In the future, advanced machine translation tech based on neural networks will almost entirely eliminate the job of translators. Translation of official, formalized documents will be entirely automatic - in certain companies and supranational organizations it has already happened. MT can probably also handle things like news reports and journalist articles. Translation of books will remain in human hands, although MT will obviously speed up the process. Stuff like poetry will still be too difficult for it to translate.
  • Google's voice recognition technology implemented in Youtube is already scarily competent at times. I can imagine similar technology being used in the future to generate subtitles for TV broadcasts automatically, for example. It can very well combine with machine translation mentioned above.
  • NVIDIA has already produced some very impressing technology demonstrations like generating photorealistic landscapes from MS Paint-tier scribbles (GauGAN). Stuff like this can find its use in programs like Photoshop. Concept artists can use something similar to GauGAN for doing photobashing instead of manually pasting and editing photos.
 
You wanted to talk about future tech? I know the guy.

Just remember that you asked for this.

Here it is, man. Everything. The future is yesterday.
 

How is a robot supposed to spit in my burgers?

You wanted to talk about future tech? I know the guy.

Just remember that you asked for this.

Here it is, man. Everything. The future is yesterday.

The NYPD choked a nigger to death for selling loose cigarettes on the street. If Bob Lazar was even remotely credible about his UFO bullshit the federal government would have turned him to ash from orbit before he even thought about contacting a reporter.
 
Product Quality
Process Reproducibility
It is not entirely certain that People really want something like this.

Quality is the main question I have. Can a hot tumbler make scrambled eggs? Eggs and stir fry in general are very easy, so I believe so.

>Reproducibility
There is always some variance in cooking. Scrambled eggs and stir fry are generally reproducible, even with a relatively large margin of variance.

>Do people want it
I've told two women about this idea and both have asked this. I think this is a stupid question. There are a great deal of people too lazy to cook anything. The power of convenience can't be understated.

I think the Transportation aspect (e.g. tubes that get the food from the fridge to the tumbler-pan) is potentially a hard thing to figure out. A lot of food may get stuck.

But I do think that making it all a reality is more a question of innovation than tech at this point.

Automated systems can't ever replicate the most important ingredient to good food: LOVE <3

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automated cooking already exists in the factories that produce all the processed food and read-to-eat meals you can buy in supermarkets

i dont see it being viable for home cooking though. complex machinery that handles food takes a lot of work to clean and maintain, and the more complex it is the more work the cleaning takes. it would an absolute mess to deal with that shit at home every time you want to eat something.

I think changing how we store and package food would do a lot minimize the complication. Maybe even the shape of food in some cases. It would be easier for a machine to dump shredded turkey onto a sandwich than to place cold slices on it.
But, yeah, it would require cleaning.

Automated cooking devices as seen in sci-fi are obviously not going to appear any time soon

I do think automated cooking is a lot closer than you might think. It was 56 years between the flight of the first airplane and the moon landing. Technological innovation for the past half century has been centered around computers, though this is moving into robotics.
And I think innovation will move more and more into the real world. With cooking, I think relatively little robotics would be necessary. Arms aren't the perfect cooking tool. There is no need for robot arms in my opinion. Like I said earlier in this post, I think it's more of an innovation problem than a purely technological one at this point.

You mentioned TV. On the topic of future predicting, I feel like the internet replaces the need for cable television. I haven't used cable in years, and I'm able to watch more things than ever by simply hooking a laptop to my TV and using a bluetooth mouse and keyboard. I can use my neighbor's account to watch live cable, though I rarely do. I assume it's even easier for Google to run their voice recognition software over my browser, seeing as how they wouldn't need to make any deal with smart TV manufacturers.
Having a cable box is a waste of space, and having a smart tv is a waste of money. Computers can handle multiple screens and can even at least be hacked to take inputs from multiple keyboards, that correspond to a given screen. Or voice commands or what have you.
 
This is what $15/hr at McDonald's looks like, you tards.
To be fair, even if McMonkeys were getting paid $5 / /hr it would still be worth it in the long run to put an automated system like this in the restaurant. Robots don't get sick, they don't call off, they don't quit unexpectedly, they don't talk back, they don't need health insurance, you don't pay into unemployment on their behalf, they can work indefinite 24 hour shifts, etc. As long as the maintenance and operation costs are less than what you'd have to pay human employees (which they almost certainlly are) it makes perfect sense to automate.
 
I just want to upload my consciousness to a computer. Bodies are disgusting and overrated and I'd set fire to mine in a second if it meant I could just exist on a solid state drive on a shelf somewhere.

As long as the maintenance and operation costs are less than what you'd have to pay human employees (which they almost certainlly are) it makes perfect sense to automate.

Unlikely. Unless all maintenance is done in-house, which is extremely rare, it needs to be a third-party repair done by someone certified. Because it's equipment used for food preparation, that's another cert. Top that with the fact that technicians are all as good at m.ilking billable hours as your average lawyer, a franchise owner could look at a four-figure bill for an average service call.

Also, if Burgermatic 5000 breaks down during the lunch rush then you're screwed. If Bill decides not to show up you just shunt someone away from the first drive thru window to the grill (or otherwise you do it yourself, you lazy fuck manager).
 
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