Gabriel Sickel / ThisIsGabe / KhordKitty / KhordiKit / Khordz / PianoKat / Xyniroz / Ghörfn / yiffyiff123 / Deborah Kay Butler / Buttercuppedbun - Deadbeat Wannabe-Actor MGTOW Pedo-zoophile - Divorced father of 2 sons. Tried grooming them as infants to be cub furries. Tried to groom a 17yo into sex. Ex-wife cucked him for a pedo. She took the kids. He fucked the family dog. His mom likes horse cock

[TFT-A9]

Aight that's fair.
I'm new to this so my apologies for being slow in a way to go about this. I used to provide child care for Deborah. I lived with her from December of 2019 to June of this year. I took the job because I felt bad for her situation. Things were fine until around 2 months in. I noticed how negligent she was with keeping an eye on her youngest son. Leaving the poor thing at the top of the 2nd story stairs by himself. My partner and I had to keep him from falling down them on her watch numerous times. She has a habit of playing things off like "Haha what a silly baby". When she's scolded for putting her child in danger. Once I see how these do I'll talk more but if yall don't wanna believe me or don't think I have enough to post her I'll leave.

Edit: I realized I put "steps" and didn't elaborate where the steps were. That's my bad.

This thread will continue with or without your negligible assistance. Do whatever you want.

 

[Lady Pigroach]

Aight that's fair.
I'm new to this so my apologies for being slow in a way to go about this. I used to provide child care for Deborah. I lived with her from December of 2019 to June of this year. I took the job because I felt bad for her situation. Things were fine until around 2 months in. I noticed how negligent she was with keeping an eye on her youngest son. Leaving the poor thing at the top of the steps by himself. My partner and I had to keep him from falling down them on her watch numerous times. She has a habit of playing things off like "Haha what a silly baby". When she's scolded for putting her child in danger. Once I see how these do I'll talk more but if yall don't wanna believe me or don't think I have enough to post her I'll leave.

Was Gabe in the home when you lived there? He is noted as saying that he thought a babysitter would mess with his kids' brains or something as an excuse to stay home.

Why did you allow the baby to teeter precariously at the top of the stairs if you were in the home? You're complicit if you witnessed these things and did nothing. If you and your partner were being paid to babysit, it was YOUR responsibility to watch her children. That's literally what she hired you for.

 

[throwawayfawzy]

This thread will continue with or without your negligible assistance. Do whatever you want.

I'm sure it will. I suppose I just want to post this about her for all the shit she's put me through. It may not be significant but she doesn't deserve to be seen as in any way a better parent than khord.

Was Gabe in the home when you lived there? He is noted as saying that he thought a babysitter would mess with his kids' brains or something as an excuse to stay home.

Why did you allow the baby to teeter precariously at the top of the stairs if you were in the home? You're complicit if you witnessed these things and did nothing. If you and your partner were being paid to babysit, it was YOUR responsibility to watch her children. That's literally what she hired you for.

Khord wasn't present in the home but I believe he knew Deborah had hired new Nannys. I use the word hire lightly. We were never paid. We were live in Nannys and provided for ourselves. Deborah wanted time with her children and would take them from our hands. We wouldn't let the children play on or around the stairs under our watch and would keep them from doing it even when she took them off our hands. She was responsible for them at the moment.

 

[Samoyed]

I'm sure it will. I suppose I just want to post this about her for all the shit she's put me through. It may not be significant but she doesn't deserve to be seen as in any way a better parent than khord.


Khord wasn't present in the home but I believe he knew Deborah had hired new Nannys. I use the word hire lightly. We were never paid. We were live in Nannys and provided for ourselves. Deborah wanted time with her children and would take them from our hands. We wouldn't let the children play on or around the stairs under our watch and would keep them from doing it even when she took them off our hands. She was responsible for them at the moment.

do you have any professional training to babysit any kids?

 

[Lady Pigroach]

If you were being paid to sit them, you were responsible.

Are you saying Deb had live in employees she didn’t pay, aka slaves? That’s a heady accusation.

A white trash furry had two live in nannies? Or more? We?

 

[AConcernedThirdParty2020]

A few things to take into consideration of this context:
Deborah works for a living in a very difficult and demanding field
Gabe was negligent of his children despite being a house husband to the degree of Deb having to be called out of work to address her son covered in piss, shit, and not having eaten or drank anything for like, hours.
Unless I am being lied to by one or both of these parties, after said incident, nannies were paid for despite the fact some of them lived with them. Or there was some kind of an arrangement. Either way, if it was "live there basically rent free or with not a lot of rent and having to do childcare" that is definitely not an ideal situation, nor is it wise, however, I'd have to take it under the context that unless someone was hired or chipped in, Deb was not at the point of leaving, needed to pay the bills, but also needed to make sure Khord didn't kill the friggin kids.

No, I wouldn't call her judgement in all this the best, on the other hand, I keep hearing from butthurt little bitches like Sneed and this weird Throwaway white trash that claims to have lived with them that "Deb is just as bad" and most of what they end up saying turns out to be, actually more empathetic for one party and not so much the other, in the context of one party being a workhorse for a house and certain lifestyle in California, while unwisely coping via the escapism of furry, and the other playing Sissy Kitty Getting ButtFucked on the internet and at conventions all day.

That is to say, give us better receipts or this still doesn't sound good for anyone involved, least of all dirt dishing furfag.

 

[ThrowawayFurry]

I'm sure it will. I suppose I just want to post this about her for all the shit she's put me through. It may not be significant but she doesn't deserve to be seen as in any way a better parent than khord.


Khord wasn't present in the home but I believe he knew Deborah had hired new Nannys. I use the word hire lightly. We were never paid. We were live in Nannys and provided for ourselves. Deborah wanted time with her children and would take them from our hands. We wouldn't let the children play on or around the stairs under our watch and would keep them from doing it even when she took them off our hands. She was responsible for them at the moment.

Sorry if I came off as an ass, but people here want receipts for claims. Your timing is poor and the "Deb isn't a good mother either" comes to a thread that generally agrees neither should have the kids because Gabe is a fucking imbecile pedo and should be in prison, and Deb is just an imbecile that wants to suck the child support from Gabe which is arguably a worse reason for wanting custody. Neither of the parents really give a shit about their kids.

Currently, you come off as some sock puppet of Gabe's because you've said some stuff but no receipts. Most of the time live in nannies get SOMETHING otherwise they wouldn't be live in nannies. If you and your partner claim she did that stuff, why did you also not call cps?

Don't get me wrong, you can just DM @Catch Your Breath probably and ask to keep it private if you want just to confirm some stuff, but you seem sus.

Edited to strike out incorrect fax.

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

@throwawayfawzy The fact you think Deb is trying to milk Gabe for money & not the other way around makes me doubt your claim already. I know for a fact that Deb evicted all of her furry roommates about a month or 2 ago so methinks you're here to be spiteful for that or perhaps Gabe's family found you. Or both. Who knows.

Unless you can provide concrete evidence in DMs, I'm choosing not to listen to this as due to the situation you've come from, it'll be difficult to take your statements at face value.

 

[AConcernedThirdParty2020]

Sorry if I came off as an ass, but people here want receipts for claims. Your timing is poor and the "Deb isn't a good mother either" comes to a thread that generally agrees neither should have the kids because Gabe is a fucking imbecile pedo and should be in prison, and Deb is just an imbecile that wants to suck the child support from Gabe which is arguably a worse reason for wanting custody. Neither of the parents really give a shit about their kids.

Not trying to be a white Knight or anything but I do have a correction here:
Gabe is the one who admitted in a conversation with me that he wants custody to get a massive amount of child support.
Remember: Gabe has generally either worked part time shit jobs or not at all while fucking around online.
Deb has indicated she cares about her kids and merely wants Gabe to pay his child support. Which, given the circumstances of Gabe no longer having any visitation other than supervised occasionally, is what the state would also be asking of him.

If you disagree with that system that's fine, but let's not debate or assume things eh? Being privvy to some of what's going on, I'll merely say I don't agree with every way Deb is going about this, however, Gabe has a way of driving people nuts so... That's the grain of salt I take it with.

 

[Leonard Helplessness]

@throwawayfawzy has a fascinating tic. This account cannot spell “Nannies” properly. It keeps getting spelled as “Nannys.”

This was done by one other person in the thread:

I'm not obsessed, literally the first reason I came to KiwiFarms in 2018 was to fact check, exact same reason I'm doing it now. I'm adding context and fact checking. Guys, I'm literally an open book here. You keep saying "I wonder why ____" and don't bother ASKING ME. I am literally here giving you just about every answer I can give! This is a good thing.



Also comments like this which openly encourage assassinations, exactly the reason I first made the PM to the OP. It's the direct result of leaving ambiguities out in the open. I'm here to get all the facts I can out in the open (while still respecting the privacy of my current and former associates, of course)

I couldn't give two craps if any of you think I'm a pedophile zoophile nechophile or a maschalagnia. Most of you either intentionally or unintentionally don't know the definition of an of those words so who cares about you?

I'm here to give facts to anyone who asks (granted it doesn't invade the privacy of others) and if you want to disregard everything I say then DO. If you want the facts, I'm the openest book you'll ever know about in the fandom, to a fault.



Stay at home parents aren't deadbeats, they are around to make sure kids don't get raised by NANNYS.

Replacing a wife with a 17 year old? I married my wife in 2016, when the person in the chat logs was 20 years old. I think you're completely mixing up the timeline.

See? Fact checking. Take advantage of that opportunity or ignore it.

May I request that a staff member compare IP addresses used by these two accounts?

 

[Samoyed]

@throwawayfawzy has a fascinating tic. This account cannot spell “Nannies” properly. It keeps getting spelled as “Nannys.”

This was done by one other person in the thread:



May I request that a staff member compare IP addresses used by these two accounts?

 

[ThrowawayFurry]

Not trying to be a white Knight or anything but I do have a correction here:
Gabe is the one who admitted in a conversation with me that he wants custody to get a massive amount of child support.
Remember: Gabe has generally either worked part time shit jobs or not at all while fucking around online.
Deb has indicated she cares about her kids and merely wants Gabe to pay his child support. Which, given the circumstances of Gabe no longer having any visitation other than supervised occasionally, is what the state would also be asking of him.

If you disagree with that system that's fine, but let's not debate or assume things eh? Being privvy to some of what's going on, I'll merely say I don't agree with every way Deb is going about this, however, Gabe has a way of driving people nuts so... That's the grain of salt I take it with.

Er, yes. Sorry reading through all the thread turned my brain to mush. I just remembered that neither particularly had a good reason for wanting the kids and I recall earlier in the thread a post mentioning Deb's reason was arguably worse than Gabe's. That's on me though, should have fact checked it.

ETA: This post is the one I was thinking of.

 

[AConcernedThirdParty2020]

Er, yes. Sorry reading through all the thread turned my brain to mush. I just remembered that neither particularly had a good reason for wanting the kids and I recall earlier in the thread a post mentioning Deb's reason was arguably worse than Gabe's. That's on me though, should have fact checked it.

ETA: This post is the one I was thinking of.

That's ok just clarifying!

This is a really wild ride of a whole thread because, we find out new shit and new motivations in parties all the time.

Speaking of which, I am now aware of what the situation this new poster is referring to, and all I can say is:
Lmao play any fortnite lately?

 

[Lapis Lazuli]

I'm sure it will. I suppose I just want to post this about her for all the shit she's put me through. It may not be significant but she doesn't deserve to be seen as in any way a better parent than khord.


Khord wasn't present in the home but I believe he knew Deborah had hired new Nannys. I use the word hire lightly. We were never paid. We were live in Nannys and provided for ourselves. Deborah wanted time with her children and would take them from our hands. We wouldn't let the children play on or around the stairs under our watch and would keep them from doing it even when she took them off our hands. She was responsible for them at the moment.

Why are you taking this information to a internet forum rather than local authorities? In fact, child care providers are supposed to report abuse, as failing to do so will hold you legally liable for any damage.

If you are a child care provider who suspects that a child in your care has been abused or neglected, it is essential that you report your suspicions. Child care providers are mandated reporters of abuse and neglect, and you can be held legally liable if you do not report abuse and a child dies. - source

 

[Wheezy Asthmatic]

Why are you taking this information to a internet forum rather than local authorities? In fact, child care providers are supposed to report abuse, as failing to do so will hold you legally liable for any damage.

They probably want us to do the dirty work

 

[AConcernedThirdParty2020]

Why are you taking this information to a internet forum rather than local authorities? In fact, child care providers are supposed to report abuse, as failing to do so will hold you legally liable for any damage.

Probably because they are exaggerating the capacity in which they were hired or expected to do child care.

But then, we are probably just talking to furfags that get themselves in stupid situations and then decide not to pay rent or deal with their problems like adults. As furfags are wont to do.

 

[Lady Pigroach]

Every other roommate Gabe has had has mentioned getting bug infestations and Gabe smelling foul. I believe the word “stinky” has been mentioned specifically.

We’re supposed to believe that two people, the nanny and their “partner”, lived with the couple and their spawn for a while, and their only complaint about that experience was that Deb is a bad mom? Not getting scabies, or walking in on Gabe fucking the dog? Not buying it.

Edit: Nvm I’m dumb, it was just Deb and possibly her pedo boyfriend at the time. Also a dogfucker tho.

 

[Leonard Helplessness]

Probably because they are exaggerating the capacity in which they were hired or expected to do child care.

But then, we are probably just talking to furfags that get themselves in stupid situations and then decide not to pay rent or deal with their problems like adults. As furfags are wont to do.

I believe that what we are seeing is explicable by one of the following possible chains of events:

1. Two unpaid volunteer child care providers moved in with Deb for six months. They cared for the children and in the course of doing so observed that neglect was taking place. They then shirked their duties to the state, to the non-custodial parent of the children, and to the children themselves by remaining silent about the abuse instead of reporting it through the necessary channels. One of them then registered an account on an internet gossip forum which the parents have been using as a public arena for their custody battle and posted about the child neglect. In doing so, this child care provider endangered both providers‘ reputations and potentially invited severe legal liability by leaking confidential, sensitive, and privileged information about a parent‘s household and children. Also this person, a self-professed nanny, does not know how to spell the plural of “nanny.”
2. Gabe impersonated a childcare provider in order to spread rumors about his ex-spouse’s worthiness to parent his children, in keeping with his habit of trying to smear his ex-spouse via every possible medium of communication.
3. A third party is being incredibly gay.

Some of these possible chains of events are more plausible than others.

 

[AConcernedThirdParty2020]

1. Gabe impersonated a childcare provider in order to spread rumors about his ex-spouse’s worthiness to parent his children, in keeping with his habit of trying to smear his ex-spouse via every possible medium of communication.
2. A third party is being incredibly gay.

Some of these possible chains of events are more plausible than others.

These are the most likely chains of events, yes. And why? Because there's a third (well more like a few thirds) party that have reason to want to be stupendously homosexual over consequences of not paying rent.

If any of these claims are remotely true, as you said, the proper response would have been to report it immediately, especially if they were being kept in some sketchy, non-lease situation that involved live in labor. Anything less and they are complicit in not reporting it.

 

[Leonard Helplessness]

I noticed something else about this whole dust-up:

I wish I could but if I did it would be way too telling of who I am. I will say though that I was in her home for a moment. I love laughing at Khord just as much as I love laughing at Deborah. I sided with her for a time but she's shown that she's just as bad a fucking parent as him in some ways.

Earlier in the thread there was posted a redacted e-mail from Deb to Gabe in which the childcare providers were mentioned. A woman and her boyfriend, from the looks of things. Since Deb claims to have run a background check she deffo has all of their personal information.