Game Censorship & Localization General Thread

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counterpoint... the anime sub has none of that outside of Mimi (Hanaka) dabbing when explaining her car crash
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Countercounterpoint: If all we got were some lame and dated references to pop culture from the 2000s in what is essentially filler text, then we got off good. It's sort of like how Working Designs had the most idiotic references to 90s pop culture that date the game drastically, but at least it isn't super woke shit that actively ruins the experience and changes the plot.

I'm not really defending the changes so much as being thankful they are just dumb quips instead of hyper politicized garbage.
 
In my experience the average Persona fan is a dripping faggot/fujoshit that never left it's middle school phase, give or take a few more degree of instability as overdue bills keep pilling up. SMT fans aren't much better, and it's a crying shame because these games deserve better fans.
Isn't Alice one of the favorite demons by poll? Sounds like you left out a category.
 
Isn't Alice one of the favorite demons by poll? Sounds like you left out a category.
I left Nanako's simps out for a reason as well. Christ, P4 was a pozz parade and none of it was even Kanji's fault.
 
I left Nanako's simps out for a reason as well. Christ, P4 was a pozz parade and none of it was even Kanji's fault.
I will eternally maintain that the problem is the modern anime industry. That's really all this is. As anime became more mainstream, it got drawn on more, and so on and so on.

The sickos just want anime shows in game form.
 
I'm not really defending the changes so much as being thankful they are just dumb quips instead of hyper politicized garbage.
Absolutely. Sometimes that makes them more memorable anyway. A quirky translation that's not as accurate can still be fun, like Chrono Trigger's (I prefer it over the redone version).
 
this kind of personality I'm familiar with in Japanese media despite it being very foreign to me as it's just not a type of person we have in the US.
not anymore. back then when not every cop wasn't automatically declared NIGGER KILLER 9000 and had some depth and humanity, that character type wasn't uncommon.

for example:
 
I never played the game, did they really fuck it over that badly?
Literally on first page - second post of this thread. You can see some localization examples there.
Give some time skimming through examples, you'll notice what kind of contents/pattern they change in localization.
 
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2 asians, 3 hispanics, 2 blacks, a Vtuber(??) and seemingly a tranny.
This is why western VAs should all be replaced with AI. Literally not a single white man. Yukari VA is fat. Mitsuru and Aigis looks like trannies. Fuuka maybe has the only semi passable VA, but she's an Asian which means she might also be a tranny.
 
This is why western VAs should all be replaced with AI. Literally not a single white man. Yukari VA is fat. Mitsuru and Aigis looks like trannies. Fuuka maybe has the only semi passable VA, but she's an Asian which means she might also be a tranny.
The rise of AI in entertainment can't come fast enough.
 
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Lol, we literally might not need English VA anymore.

This is Milei's 2024 Davos talk (the new Liberation President of Argentina) telling the Davos crowd to go fuck themselves. The original was 100% in Spanish but here is the whole speech in English using his voice and accent using AI.

(Sorry, twitter download is giving me problems)
 
Lol, we literally might not need English VA anymore.

This is Milei's 2024 Davos talk (the new Liberation President of Argentina) telling the Davos crowd to go fuck themselves. The original was 100% in Spanish but here is the whole speech in English using his voice and accent using AI.

(Sorry, twitter download is giving me problems)
A fan did the same with with Marchi's bullshit in that Dragon Maid anime and the AI actually had more inflection and emotion than the supposed human. Didn't even sound that robotic, either, unlike YongYea when he's trying to sing.

I'm really hoping in the future we get the Japanese VA's voices and just turn them into English with AI.
 
Lol, we literally might not need English VA anymore.

This is Milei's 2024 Davos talk (the new Liberation President of Argentina) telling the Davos crowd to go fuck themselves. The original was 100% in Spanish but here is the whole speech in English using his voice and accent using AI.

(Sorry, twitter download is giving me problems)
And here's Onegezellig in English:

Yeah, traditional voice acting's obsolete now. Fine by me, too. No more Yongyei as Kiryu incidents ever again!
 
Does the phrase "this is definitely the result of late stage capitalism!" strike you as something a Japanese man would write into his game about funny fashion and averting the apocalypse?
Ironically the entire VA industry can be summarized in that phrase. Late stage capitalism - nepotism went to shit and the only people allowed to engage in the profession are gatekeeping grifters and zero talent parasites that will work for free.
 
I never played the game, did they really fuck it over that badly?
i'll preemptively accept my top hats made of puzzle pieces cause this shit gets me real uppity
I never hear any criticisms about it from people who also criticize the original DS twewy, which has an equally heavy localization and even a character who offhandedly criticizes capitalism, but nobody ever finger points at that localization. NEO flopped because twewy is already niche and SE didn't fucking market it. Twice. Once during it's initial release and again when it unceremonious dropped on Steam. Thank god, honestly. It already got the attention of gormless culture war gamergate faggots who constantly take the same screenshots from the first two hours out of context for years on end, it didn't need bored Persona and Dangan Ronpa avatars shitting up the discourse too.

Everybody likes to post the NEO screenshot with the restaurant owner thinking about cultural appropriation, but never the resolution to that arc where he concludes that the concept is complete bullshit (in an unavoidable main questline, btw) or how every gay character in the series is always some flavor of manipulative psychopath. In NEO there's even a whole gang of excessively flamboyant gays who you repeatedly beat the shit out of for being thieving menaces to society, and the game never chides you for it or tells you how actually epic and based their lifestyle actually is. I bring these examples up because NEO frequently gets painted as this zogbot normietard propaganda outlet even though basic fundamental knowledge of the story and characters completely dismantles the idea.

Not to poo-poo on the thread and be a dubfag or whatever, but I think NEO is a weak and forced example when it comes to the discussion of how faggy and methodically imperialist and destructive modern localization is. Like, I'm not retarded, I see how bad it looks when Fret says sus and galaxy brain, and the stupid nicknames (which were also in the DS game) and why someone would prefer a more literal and subdued localization, but in the case of twewy specifically I feel it's style of localization is a holdover from a more well-meaning place. Specifically, I think that modern contemporary edge and energy (which often very quickly dates itself) are very much in the spirit of twewy's narrative, setting, and characters, and it helps them be more identifiable and relatable for it's intended audience of retarded edgy aimless teenagers. It's not an Ace Attorney type of situation where stupid memes are just shoved in almost as non-sequiturs.

It does suck that some of the original character's personalities are warped from their original portrayal, but there are nuggets of gold in there too which aren't in the original JP scripts to my knowledge, and I don't think warped portrayals and lines are always inherently a worse thing. That might almost always be the case with modern localization, but it wasn't always that way. I still stand by that anyone who says things like Cowboy Bebop or DBZ or YuYu Hakusho or various other Toonami boomer animays are poor localizations has Terminal Head Up Their Ass Syndrome, and that twewy's/NEO's localization fits under that very small umbrella of getting more right than it gets wrong.
 
In NEO there's even a whole gang of excessively flamboyant gays who you repeatedly beat the shit out of for being thieving menaces to society, and the game never chides you for it or tells you how actually epic and based their lifestyle actually is.
That is because they're normalizing stuff like faggotry with such depictions ("these guys just HAPPEN to be gay, and that is totally normal and okay so we won't linger on that fact!").

That's the way propaganda works best, subtly. The only reason it's often more overt now is for demoralization, because that traditionally subtle type of propaganda--which is the most insidious and effective--was largely already a success, so they don't need to stick to it exclusively anymore.
 
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