Game Censorship & Localization General Thread

Bloodrage said:
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> anime tiddies on steam = bad
> literal CP = good
Fuck is wrong with these people?
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So this is all about damage control? How many suits in charge of these credit card companies are fapping to CP? One wonders...

wtfNeedSignUp said:
I don't think porn addicts would even play porn games that aren't just a glorified flash games. The delayed reward is entirely against their addiction. Not that porn games are some high art (some can be argued for though), but they usually work on building up to scenes romantically or as a reward for gameplay.
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I think for a lot of H game fans there's some investment in the waifu. You might read through hours of dialog just to get your animu tiddy scene with "best girl" of your choice. These games are primarily for waifu fags. Some of them have good stories with H scenes tacked on to boost sales. These scenes get removed for the all ages console versions. Most of the time you don't even miss them as they are truly tacked on extra scenes. There are some H games where the hentai is the prime focus though. I guess those are primarily for hikkis who never leave their fap dungeon.
 
ZMOT said:
pretty sure the adult games flag is on by default, exactly to prevent little timmy from accidentally seeing a pixel tiddie and his mother going full karen (not to mention comply with local law).

which always outs the retards complaining about those games clogging up their feed since normally they wouldn't see them to begin with. in general it's pretty dumb to complain about what else get sold in a fucking digital store. "but I can't find the good stuff" - as you said valve did plenty of work for people to see shit they like (so they buy it, duh), but even then there are fucking dozens of websites and youtubers and other ways to find out about non-mainstream stuff. those people are not only retarded, they're also lazy.
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I never fucked with the content settings on steam. Porn games still show up on the storefront. Ironically, the only thing that seems to be on by default is asking me for my age when I click on an M rated game.

What was removed anyway? A good chunk of the "new and trending" page is still pornslop.
 
According to some, the reason for all the companies going all woke and whatnot is to not have something like what happened to the people of Activision Blizzard happen again.

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LightDragonman1 said:
According to some, the reason for all the companies going all woke and whatnot is to not have something like what happened to the people of Activision Blizzard happen again.

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"We need digital censorship because real people are getting raped". This is not solving anything, you are meant to fire and blacklist predators from the industry to solve the problem. Toss them in prison.
Also designs turning ugly is not because of "frat boy culture" but because they get paid by DEI for making characters look like inbred disabled trash.
 
RacistComputer79 said:
"We need digital censorship because real people are getting raped". This is not solving anything, you are meant to fire and blacklist predators from the industry to solve the problem. Toss them in prison.
Also designs turning ugly is not because of "frat boy culture" but because they get paid by DEI for making characters look like inbred disabled trash.
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Reminder that "frat boy culture" used to not only be alive and well within Activision-Blizzard themselves, but to the point where they were drinking milk of female employees there. One of them also allegedly committed suicide from working there, and Bobby Kotick allegedly tried to blackmail at least one female employee into keeping her mouth shut about what goes on there "or else". These are the people telling you this, btw.
 
LightDragonman1 said:
Basically, stop said atmosphere and culture that allows such people to come about in the first place.
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And we know how to do that. Meritocracy.

The 90s and 2000s were really horny when it came to games, but they never had these kinds of problems.

I know the excuse will be "it was worse, but everyone was silenced!", but unless I see proof of that, I'm not buying it.
 
LightDragonman1 said:
According to some, the reason for all the companies going all woke and whatnot is to not have something like what happened to the people of Activision Blizzard happen again.

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I don't buy this on several levels.
1. Activision Blizzard started getting a lot more performatively woke after the allegations, but I doubt that's some genuine way to change company culture. and I imagine it's both a way to try and do PR damage control to make it look like the company is different now, and just a result of employees getting shuffled around and more DEI hires and consultant grifters being involved.
2. I don't believe it's any real way to make it so sexual predators aren't in companies. The image this person is presenting is that game companies were filled with like, stereotypical dipshit frat boys who act like retards and sexually harass every woman they see, but I've seen no evidence that any game company decades ago acted like that. In fact, it's kind of the opposite in that allegations started coming out from companies that Activision Blizzard and Ubisoft that had already been doing woke shit for years before that point and were filled with guys who presented themselves as leftist feminists. If anything, the allegations just supported the "male feminists are actually rapists" meme. And likely, it has a lot to do with these companies becoming bloated messes full of thousands of low-quality employees.
3. As touched on before, companies were already starting to do this shit before the allegations and lawsuits at Activision Blizzard came out. Perhaps thing got worse at several companies afterword, perhaps because people who want this woke stuff used it as a justification to get more decision-makers on board, but it's clearly not the real reason for it considering how long it's been going on and how omnipresent they want to make it.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
I don't buy this on several levels.
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don't forget number 4 "I make shit up for an easy payday/promotion".
dudes among each other will behave a certain way, just like women do. easy to call anything you don't like mysoggyknee, especially when #metoo was at it's height.

then there's the devil in the details of said "examples". the chick that killed herself? she was dumb enough to hook up with a superior, who then called it off and this was the fallout. interestingly he didn't mention the fucking dildos she apparently brought to the very same company trip. don't want any nude photos passed around? don't take any dipshit.

don't forget they desperately tried to get bobby kotick, but nothing stuck since his only "sin" was being a money first guy and not caving to their bs, especially from blizzard which all know is 110% pozzed.

as you said ubisoft itself was already pozzed as fuck. that dude they canceled? same dude who wouldn't budge on white male protagonists. funny how that's not an issue anymore, wonder what caused it - oh yeah, he was too french.

Jewthulhu said:
I never fucked with the content settings on steam. Porn games still show up on the storefront. Ironically, the only thing that seems to be on by default is asking me for my age when I click on an M rated game.
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age gate isn't the same as the adult only content filter which is on by default. "porn slop", depending who you ask, is also stuff like bg3 because nothing prevents you from watching some bear sex. can't have one without the other.
 
Peru oso donas said:
Why the fuck would Koei Tecmo censor stuff because of Blizzard? Are they going to blame everyone they can before actually blaming the credit card companies?
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For KT it's neither of those things, it's CERO which now assigns a CERO Z rating to games that have upskirts. Most normal stores in Japan don't keep CERO Z games generally available, some won't carry them at all, even amazon gives a scary age verification that they normally reserve for pornography and won't recommend anything in that bucket to most customers.

CERO changed its rules because social mores in Japan have changed a lot. There's a real problem of creeps doing upskirt photography of strangers in public and normies & news blame lewd anime & otaku culture, probably because the people doing it are all otaku weirdos.

Try playing Blue Reflection 2, which is a great game btw, if you attempt to upskirt a girl in photo mode the model just disappears as soon as a pantie would be visible.
 
Baraka Obama said:
For KT it's neither of those things, it's CERO which now assigns a CERO Z rating to games that have upskirts. Most normal stores in Japan don't keep CERO Z games generally available, some won't carry them at all, even amazon gives a scary age verification that they normally reserve for pornography and won't recommend anything in that bucket to most customers.

CERO changed its rules because social mores in Japan have changed a lot. There's a real problem of creeps doing upskirt photography of strangers in public and normies & news blame lewd anime & otaku culture, probably because the people doing it are all otaku weirdos.

Try playing Blue Reflection 2, which is a great game btw, if you attempt to upskirt a girl in photo mode the model just disappears as soon as a pantie would be visible.
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I find it very unlikely that panty shots alone will get your game a Z rating. From what I've seen, panty shots seems to prevent you from getting an A (all ages) or B (12+) rating and puts your game into at least a C (15+) rating. Searching right now, I found a cut from a livestream where a game director from Arc System Works was asked if panty shots are still allowed in CERO C games, and he said yet, though there might be exceptions based on exact context since it's hard to judge what CERO will do. And I found a footnote in the otaku wiki page for CERO that says it's thought a certain game got a D (17+) rating because you were free to look up girls' skirts and take screenshots.

So sounds like you don't get Z just for that. The real issue is that publishers will often want an A or B rating, and CERO has gotten stricter where they'll give you a C rating for things that used to be worth just a B in the 2000s to early 2010s. And they'll often give you a D rating for things that used to be just a C. This Fairy Tail game seems to have a CERO C rating, but maybe this is a case where CERO was giving them a harder time and threatening to raise it to a D, or was accusing Koei Tecmo of hiding that you could see up the girls' skirts during certain moments.
 
Retarded Weeb said:
I find it very unlikely that panty shots alone will get your game a Z rating. From what I've seen, panty shots seems to prevent you from getting an A (all ages) or B (12+) rating and puts your game into at least a C (15+) rating. Searching right now, I found a cut from a livestream where a game director from Arc System Works was asked if panty shots are still allowed in CERO C games, and he said yet, though there might be exceptions based on exact context since it's hard to judge what CERO will do. And I found a footnote in the otaku wiki page for CERO that says it's thought a certain game got a D (17+) rating because you were free to look up girls' skirts and take screenshots.

So sounds like you don't get Z just for that. The real issue is that publishers will often want an A or B rating, and CERO has gotten stricter where they'll give you a C rating for things that used to be worth just a B in the 2000s to early 2010s. And they'll often give you a D rating for things that used to be just a C. This Fairy Tail game seems to have a CERO C rating, but maybe this is a case where CERO was giving them a harder time and threatening to raise it to a D, or was accusing Koei Tecmo of hiding that you could see up the girls' skirts during certain moments.
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It's not like an automatic panties = Z, but pantie shots are considered sexual content which can really quickly get into D territory and gratuitous upskirts will land a Z. It's a fuzzy line too so a grumpy employee could be the difference between commercial viability and not, it's not something they want to deal with.
 
Baraka Obama said:
CERO changed its rules because social mores in Japan have changed a lot.
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Strongly disagree there. Wokeshits have been targetting Japan since the moment woke started. From the BBC doing a hit piece on manga back when all the Jimmy Savil stuff was coming out, to the latest attempts by payment processors to cut them off.
 
Baraka Obama said:
For KT it's neither of those things, it's CERO which now assigns a CERO Z rating to games that have upskirts.
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Is that the equivalent of the ESRB's AO rating? For flashing fucking panties? An M rating equivalent would suffice plenty for that, crazy.
 
Judge Dredd said:
Strongly disagree there. Wokeshits have been targetting Japan since the moment woke started. From the BBC doing a hit piece on manga back when all the Jimmy Savil stuff was coming out, to the latest attempts by payment processors to cut them off.
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Oh of course they are, but you know most Japanese people really, really hate otaku culture right? Even censored porn on DVD has a big social stigma, you start adding in comics of kids being fucked it's easily 80-90% of the population that's against this stuff, and most see upskirts as being part of the same culture.

Dress and culture there are super conservative in a way you would expect from old guard American church goers, and that crowd is very happy to see games that children play _not_ have gratuitous sexual content.

SSj_Ness (Yiffed) said:
Is that the equivalent of the ESRB's AO rating? For flashing fucking panties? An M rating equivalent would suffice plenty for that, crazy.
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AO is a blackball, game can't effectively be sold in retail or on console. A game like Call of Duty or The Last of Us gets a Z, still sold on Amazon and in specialty retailers (including big chains like Bic or Yodobashi) but they won't sell to people under 18 and might put them in an 18+ corner. And you won't generally find them in a lot of more accessible stores like convenience stores, department stores, and more normie electronic chains like Nojima.
 
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Baraka Obama said:
Even censored porn on DVD has a big social stigma, you start adding in comics of kids being fucked it's easily 80-90% of the population that's against this stuff, and most see upskirts as being part of the same culture.
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Dragon Ball had plenty of that, and it's been a popular touchstone of Japanese culture for decades now. Look at any of the popular manga/anime, and I am talking about the mainstream stuff like One Piece or Naruto, it's full of risqué content.

So no, I doubt the issue is "stigma" against erotic content, even among the mainstream, since that kind of stuff was part of the culture for centuries, and only really got pushed back when the Americans forced the Japanese to do it.

This push is wholly because Western institutions are putting pressure on Japan, but also because Japanese companies are slowly being infected with their homegrown Marxist insurrectionists, who take all their cues from the woketards here.
 
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